stock pistons on manley rods

[schumy]

I was wondering if this would work, or be of any benefit. I was originally going to use stock rods and pistons and reuse the rod studs, but am becoming weary of doing that. My problem is that I already ordered the standard size acl bearings and they are not very cheap.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Why not 1g rods 2g pistons.You will get extra power potential because of the larger rods.This combo is a very budget friendly combo.Instead of spending 400$ on rods alone.You should be able to get bearings, the pistons put on the 1g rods and a gasket kit for around 400-500$

 

[schumy]

400 is a lot of money and I have enough parts here to build 2 engines. I just wanted to see if I could get something built with the stuff I have here

 

[Cdc1221]

I was wondering if this would work, or be of any benefit. I was originally going to use stock rods and pistons and reuse the rod studs, but am becoming weary of doing that. My problem is that I already ordered the standard size acl bearings and they are not very cheap.

Is this for a 2.0?

 

[BogusSVO]

Just what is the question?

Stock pistons will not will not work on H beam rods.

Bearing size is determined by the crank, not the rods.

Rod studs?? Do you mean bolts? They have no effect on bearing size.

Yes the big ends if the rods should be resized if you install arp rod bolts, but the housing bore will be the same as factory after they have been resized.

 

[schumy]

Just what is the question?

Stock pistons will not will not work on H beam rods.

Bearing size is determined by the crank, not the rods.

Rod studs?? Do you mean bolts? They have no effect on bearing size.

Yes the big ends if the rods should be resized if you install arp rod bolts, but the housing bore will be the same as factory after they have been resized.

Im saying that I will need new bearings because everyone is saying that I will have to get the rod ends realigned

I think im alittle confused.

 

[BogusSVO]

Im saying that I will need new bearings because everyone is saying that I will have to get the rod ends realigned

I think im alittle confused.

Yes, it sounds like it.

When the big end of the rod is resized (Realigned), it is put back to factory spec, so the bearings you have will be just fine.

As far as I know, there is no oversized OD bearing for the 4g63

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

I personally would not re-use the rod bolts.. its apart now and standard ARPs cost what? ~$50 + shipping?

 

[schumy]

Yes, it sounds like it.

When the big end of the rod is resized (Realigned), it is put back to factory spec, so the bearings you have will be just fine.

As far as I know, there is no oversized OD bearing for the 4g63

O I understand now. But how is it the same size if metal is being taken off?

 

[newtodsm97gst]

just get a evo8/9 piston and rods at evolutionm.net for cheap. thats what I did.... I got mine for $50 and pay $70 for new rings.

 

[schumy]

just get a evo8/9 piston and rods at evolutionm.net for cheap. thats what I did.... I got mine for $50 and pay $70 for new rings.

$50 for 4 rods and 4 pistons?

 

[BogusSVO]

Rod resizing 101

The mating surface of the rod and cap are cut .001-.003

then the rod and cap are torqued to spec. when this happens the bore is no longer round, but more football shaped.

Then the bore is honed back round and to spec.

 

[schumy]

Rod resizing 101

The mating surface of the rod and cap are cut .001-.003

then the rod and cap are torqued to spec. when this happens the bore is no longer round, but more football shaped.

Then the bore is honed back round and to spec.

O okay this is what ill do can't be more then $100 right?

 

[newtodsm97gst]

$50 for 4 rods and 4 pistons?

yes $50.. all this evo guys just want their oem pistons and rods gone since they went bigger things. there's a set right now for $150 though. but you can probably bring it down, thats what I did.

 

[BogusSVO]

Avarage cost on having a rod reside in my area is $10-$15 per rod, plus rod bolts

 

[schumy]

Avarage cost on having a rod reside in my area is $10-$15 per rod, plus rod bolts

Okay cool that's not to bad