Remove stripped ARP head stud nut

[kingjust]

Well fellas, I have a doozy for yall. Trying to remove my head i'm on the last arp nut to loosen. Well, trying to put some nuts behind it, it seems that I have stripped that bugger pretty good. To make a long story short, it's the last bastard I have to get off to take the head off but now I can't. Since the nut is rounded, I have options to get it off, I just want to here what you guys have done, or would do. It was an emergency but not anymore... chime in please!

KJ

 

[donniekak]

Pound an easyout onto the stud and just pull the whole stud out.

 

[DSMtsi23]

Arp head studs have a spot for a allen wrench! just use a allen wrench and pull the stud out

 

[kingjust]

I get what your both saying, but remember, this still has the nut on it torqued all to hell (I didn't do it). I thought about an allen bit, I just don't know if it can withstand 100+ft/lbs of torque (the allen part). Easy out... i'ma have to look that up. Any more ideas?

KJ

 

[jjrock5]

Grab the torch and melt it. j/k

I agree on the easy out, those things are god's gifts.

 

[kingjust]

I don't understand why you guys keep saying easy out... this isn't a factory bolt that I just tore the head off of and I need to extract the stud, it's an arp stud where the nut is stripped. I can try the allen, I just don't think it can hold the torque.

KJ

 

[gofer]

first of all id like to congratulate you

haha JK. do you remember how you removed the stud out of your t25 hotside? put two nuts on the stud then back the bottom one up onto the top one and tighten them onto each other? then you put a wrench on the bottom nut and viola! you might double this up with the allen wrench...
id do this before i started taking an easy out to my $120 headstuds

 

[DSM_PWR]

So... you stripped and ARP nut?

how... did.... you... strip a 12 point...


You can always use one of these allen sockets to get it out

 

[nuclearr]

They sell a socket you can buy them at sears that is for taking striped nuts and bolts off not sure if you have enough clearance for one, but that is an option. As well as the second nut.

 

[4g64fiero]

first of all id like to congratulate you

haha JK. do you remember how you removed the stud out of your t25 hotside? put two nuts on the stud then back the bottom one up onto the top one and tighten them onto each other? then you put a wrench on the bottom nut and viola! you might double this up with the allen wrench...
id do this before i started taking an easy out to my $120 headstuds

This.

You will have to find some shallow nuts though. Kinda doubtful if you can really reach the bottom nut to accomplish this.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

first of all id like to congratulate you

haha JK. do you remember how you removed the stud out of your t25 hotside? put two nuts on the stud then back the bottom one up onto the top one and tighten them onto each other? then you put a wrench on the bottom nut and viola! you might double this up with the allen wrench...
id do this before i started taking an easy out to my $120 headstuds

Ding ding we have a winner. That small of an allen head won't hold the torque. And an easy out?

 

[15psi88]

Double nutting a head stud with the head still on? Are you guys serious? Have you ever seen under the valve cover of a 4g63?

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

I've had to do it before. Just takes time and some thin nuts since there isn't a lot of thread on there.

 

[jjrock5]

^ exactly, you will not have enough threads to use a second nut...

Here ya go:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=96334

That should do the job. And I'm not sure why you guys are surprised of some recommending these.

 

[gofer]

^ exactly, you will not have enough threads to use a second nut...

Here ya go:

- Harbor Freight Tools - Quality Tools at the Lowest Prices

That should do the job. And I'm not sure why you guys are surprised of some recommending these.

im not surprised of somebody suggesting to use an easy out at all, its a good idea and it might comedown to that.
^^^ i can count atleast 3 posts up there that all say the same EXACT thing in a row... easy out. ^^^ so i am just trying to suggest a different method of attack than the gentlemen above did since an easy out will ruin his ARP stud. i think the easy out should be the last resort not the first like the MANY said above.
walk into the home depot with one of your removed headsteads and grab some thin .10 cent nuts and a can of PB blaster and give it a shot. im not saying ive been there done that but i think its worth the pocket change to try it... just trying to save you some money.

just don't go overboard with the PB blaster, be sure to soak up the excess! you definitely don't want that stuff your oil...

 

[kingjust]

This.

You will have to find some shallow nuts though. Kinda doubtful if you can really reach the bottom nut to accomplish this.

C'mon now fellas, "head stud" with the head still on... how can I double nut it... I know what you mean, but you first have to visualize my dilemma.

 

[gofer]

C'mon now fellas, "head stud" with the head still on... how can I double nut it... I know what you mean, but you first have to visualize my dilemma.

pictures are worth a thousand words if you want us to "visualize" your dilemma...
and if you dont think you can double-nut the stud have you atleast tried to use an allen socket like DSM PWR suggested?

 

[kingjust]

Ding ding we have a winner. That small of an allen head won't hold the torque. And an easy out?

Didn't I say that already?

pictures are worth a thousand words if you want us to "visualize" your dilemma...
and if you dont think you can double-nut the stud have you atleast tried to use an allen socket like DSM PWR suggested?

Yes, I have but think it though, the nut is already torqued down, and the stud... well, I don't think any hex bit can survive that!

 

[dsm-onster]

Vice grips? OO

Please don't make fun of those trying to help you when you rounded a 12point nut.

 

[kingjust]

pictures are worth a thousand words if you want us to "visualize" your dilemma...
and if you dont think you can double-nut the stud have you atleast tried to use an allen socket like DSM PWR suggested?

Ok, here are your pictures... i've decided to just drill through it, knock off the nut and pull the head off. This worked great, just remember that you have to use the drill bits that come with the stud extractor, if not, it will not work.

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Thanks for the input guys, no go ahead and make fun of me, I know, I deserve it. And to the cat that said how do you strip a 12pt, well when someone else torques the hell out of it, and you just finish doing the other 9, your a little fatigued and when you are trying to keep the socket straight up and down but don't and your decide to give it your all on a socket that is seated crooked... well

 

[dsm-onster]

Well. did you get it off then? looks like you did. Or was that another nut?

 

[gofer]

Didn't I say that already?
Yes, I have but think about it though, the nut is already torqued down, and the stud... well, I don't think any hex bit can survive that!

i think that all of us trying to help you is useless until you try the above. from reading your thread you've got a list of 3 things that your THINKING aren't going to work. i don't post a thread asking for advice and then not try it or say it won't work when people take their time to give it...
good luck with your head stud removal, i really do hope you can back it out of there.



problem solved: well im glad to see its removed, i would have liked to see the pictures of the problem though before the solution. i guess i was assuming you had the cams, rockers, & lifters out too...

 

[kingjust]

Well. did you get it off then? looks like you did. Or was that another nut?

Yeah, that damn thing is out... waiting for the new head to arrive in the mail soon

i think that all of us trying to help you is useless until you try the above. from reading your thread you've got a list of 3 things that your THINKING aren't going to work. i don't post a thread asking for advice and then not try it or say it won't work when people take their time to give it...
good luck with your head stud removal, i really do hope you can back it out of there.



problem solved: well im glad to see its removed, i would have liked to see the pictures of the problem though before the solution. i guess i was assuming you had the cams, rockers, & lifters out too...

Gofer, all I asked was what have any of you have done in a situation like this... if any have been. I don't think no one has and I was thinking of other things... and of course the first was the allen bolt. But again, I felt that it would just strip it, the allen portion, and I think there were some who posted that agreed. And I didn't try the easy out because of the same situation, not enough meat on the extractor to deal with the torque. So I finally came up with drilling at an angle to sheer off the nut (which worked). And as you can see that there wasn't enough threads for another nut for that procedure.

It's not that I wasn't going to follow anyones advice, I just wanted to here something different from what I have already gone through in my head. Trust me, I thank this community all the time, there was no disrespect intended gofer and I do thank you for your input. I'm glad I got that damn thing out though, I was about to cut my wrist!!!

Thanks again tuners!!!

KJ

 

[jjrock5]

I still strongly believe you couldve used an easy out and AT LEAST saved the stud.

 

[BeatupVR4]

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