Questions for Justin...

[90moneypit]

I posted this question in the noob section as well (to try and help with the OP's questions) but I'm curious as well and you are the man to ask.
Is there a benefit to using a BEP DSM exhaust housing on an E316G over the stock one? What if the stock one were ported and flapped to 34mm (separate question)? I don't have the cash to swap everything to a Holset set-up yet so I'm baby stepping to 12's before trying to leap into 10's I don't have the cash for the transmission for 10's yet either

edit: and just realized it was an antique thread someone dug up... Oh well, at least here it'll add to the repository of jusmx141 knowledge database.

 

[JusMX141]

Are the outlet flanges on the HX40's interchangeable? As in can I take the V Band flange off of my T3 housing and put it on a T4 housing?

I believe the outlet flange on the factory wastegated HX40 turbine housings is the same regardless of whether it's a T3 or T4 inlet, but I could be wrong as there are many different OEM applications for these turbos.

I'll go as far as to say this- all of the factory wastegated HX40 turbine housings I've seen used the same outlet flange.

Is there a benefit to using a BEP DSM exhaust housing on an E316G over the stock one? What if the stock one were ported and flapped to 34mm (separate question)? I don't have the cash to swap everything to a Holset set-up yet so I'm baby stepping to 12's before trying to leap into 10's I don't have the cash for the transmission for 10's yet either

You'll gain flow regardless by using the BEP housing over the factory MHI 7cm housing as the BEP housing because the BEP housing has a slightly larger a/r along with a centered-volute design that is much like the FP housings.

Port a factory MHI housing all you want- you're not going to change the a/r, nor are you going to change the shape of the volute around the turbine inducer.

The problem is I don't believe the Bullseye Power TD05H turbine housings are available anymore, so unless you're lucky enough to find a good deal on a used one or possibly a new-old-stock part, you're going to be stuck using a MHI housing.

Will such a housing benefit your average DSM? Not likely....but it would benefit a car that has added displacement or a higher compression ratio by lowering EGT's due to decreased backpressure. The stock Evo III turbine housing is enough to max out the Evo III compressor and TD05H turbine- if you had a TD05H 20G, this may be an excellent option.

 

[2gmummy]

Hey can you tell what kind of fitting these are or what lines will work for them, its on a bw s265 with a 3" vband hotside if that helps. Thanks

 

[cookmeup272]

Is the VBand on the outlet flange on the hx40 3.25" or 3.5"?

 

[JusMX141]

Hey can you tell what kind of fitting these are or what lines will work for them

-4AN supply, -10AN drain. You'll need a supply line that has a 90* fitting at the turbo.

Is the VBand on the outlet flange on the hx40 3.25" or 3.5"?

All that I have seen are actually 4", so I don't know if you have a different one or if you're underestimating the size.

 

[2gmummy]

haha this is an awesome thread! thanks man

 

[cookmeup272]

All that I have seen are actually 4", so I don't know if you have a different one or if you're underestimating the size.

The reason I say that is because I bought a 4"VBand kit and it is too big....the holset v band fits completely inside the 4" VBand flange

 

[JusMX141]

There's a chance that some of the Volvo HX40's with a 56mm compressor inducer would have a smaller turbine discharge as well...I cannot confirm this because I've never had one of these turbos at my shop with the factory turbine housing attached.

 

[98GSXtacy]

Depends on whether you're looking to stay with something OEM-appearing or not.

The 68HTA should get you to your goal and remains a 100% stock-appearing turbo.

Not to be a dick but i gotta try and make myself seem somewhat smart because he has a 2g therefore a 68hta, or any non t25/28 turbo, is going to be far from stock looking...that is if the people who are looking actually know what they are looking at, which i doubt. Sorry Justin, i just had to take advantage of that

 

[Imback]

ii have 2 questions, (1) is the pte scm 6152 water and oil cooled (looking to buy one fromt he marketplace possibly), secondly if it is water/oil cooled will the stockk lines/fittings work, currently im running a B16g fed with an ss line from the ofh

The DBB scm 6152 is oil and water cooled. The stock water lines do fit just need some finesse.

 

[JusMX141]

Not to be a dick but i gotta try and make myself seem somewhat smart because he has a 2g therefore a 68hta, or any non t25/28 turbo, is going to be far from stock looking...that is if the people who are looking actually know what they are looking at, which i doubt. Sorry Justin, i just had to take advantage of that

I don't even consider the T25 a DSM turbo as it has no place being on a DSM. It's horribly undersized, it's not made by Mitsubishi, and it's 1/3rd as durable as the 14B it replaced. If you dare run a T25 at boost levels in excess of stock, the thrust plate is going to explode on you in a very short time.

To further prove my point- the 68HTA uses the exact same center housing design and internals as a 14B, and there are plenty of 68HTA owners making big power which any turbo based off the T25's center housing design could never achieve.

As long as the installer pays attention and routes the lines properly instead of letting a ton of loose ends in the engine bay, a TD05H-based turbo can be made to look like it came from the factory under the hood of a 2G.

 

[98GSXtacy]

Haha i knew i would get a l response . I wasnt saying you were wrong at all because honestly, if you go to a track for a stock class series, they wont know the difference. I just like playing devils advocate .

 

[Dsm4lyfe12]

Turbonetics BTX6565 ball bearing turbo, What do you think. Any information on this thing?

 

[agarc023]

How big a crack does it take to be worried in the turbine inlet of a 16g?

 

[Dsm4lyfe12]

How big a crack does it take to be worried in the turbine inlet of a 16g?

The grand canyon type.

 

[codeofdastreets]

Justins going to have a handfull with this thread , I see 10 pages by the end of the week.

 

[snowborder714]

I hope this doesn't turn into a "I'm too lazy to search so I'll just post here" thread. Justin, please let me know if this starts heading that way.

Also, keep in mind we already have a "What turbo is this?" thread, so please use that for all your turbo ID questions - posting after searching, obviously

 

[JusMX141]

Turbonetics BTX6565 ball bearing turbo, What do you think. Any information on this thing?

No personal experience with said turbo, but I'm not fond of the Turbonetics journal bearing units....however that doesn't speak for their ball bearing turbos as they can be a completely different monster.

How big a crack does it take to be worried in the turbine inlet of a 16g?

I've seen some pretty large cracks on turbos that were still working just fine. As long as the crack doesn't leak to the exterior of the housing you're OK....but cracking like this would require replacement:

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I hope this doesn't turn into a "I'm too lazy to search so I'll just post here" thread. Justin, please let me know if this starts heading that way.

I'm on it, Brian....I've already deleted a handful of useless posts. Thanks for the backup!

 

[agarc023]

I've seen some pretty large cracks on turbos that were still working just fine. As long as the crack doesn't leak to the exterior of the housing you're OK....but cracking like this would require replacement:

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Thank you sir

 

[95AWD6Bolt]

Justin,


Do you know anyone that still sells a -3an oil feed line from the housing? Extreme psi only sells a -4an one.

 

[snowborder714]

Try here.
AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products, Hose ends Hose,Adapters, fittings

 

[JusMX141]

Another option is to use the -4AN line setup and add a restrictor to the line of about the same I.D. as the -3AN line, which is somewhere around .100".

 

[Slow91Laser]

Hey Justin quick question i just got my FP HTA68 in today from a member on link forums and just wanted you to look at a quick pic to tell me if it is indeed a billet wheel HTA68.....

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[RoryBarron]

For the -3an restrictor, is this what you are talking about? Would this work on an hx40? Or is it the wrong thread type? Would this be threaded into the turbo itself actually or into the other end by the filter housing? EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts

 

[JusMX141]

Hey Justin quick question i just got my FP HTA68 in today from a member on link forums and just wanted you to look at a quick pic to tell me if it is indeed a billet wheel HTA68.....

Definitely a 68HTA, but that's not the turbine housing which originally came on the 68HTA....instead your turbo came with an Evo III-style turbine housing, which is actually an upgrade weight-wise, durability-wise, and flow-wise.

For the -3an restrictor, is this what you are talking about? Would this work on an hx40? Or is it the wrong thread type? Would this be threaded into the turbo itself actually or into the other end by the filter housing? EXTREME PSI : Your #1 Source for In Stock Performance Parts

That's for GT30R and 35R turbos only, says so in the listing.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Aluminum -4AN restrictor on eBay then just drill it to whatever size you're looking for:

TURBO OIL RESTRICTOR AN-4 BILLET ALUMINUM - eBay (item 250434511919 end time Mar-20-11 17:48:46 PDT)