Questions for Justin...

[Bud92gsx]

How do you take of a compressor wheel?

 

[hurricanecris24]

Read the first steps it will detail how to remove the compressor wheel http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...rcooler/316421-t3-turbo-rebuild-part-1-a.html

 

[Ppayer38]

What are the specs on a Garrett Stage III turbine wheel?
Are all Garrett Stage III wheels the same just different AR housings?
Are there any DSM housings that will fit a Garrett Stage III wheel?
Kinda lost on this Stage wheel thing....

 

[JusMX141]

What are the specs on a Garrett Stage III turbine wheel?

Inducer= 2.56"
Exducer= 2.23"

Are all Garrett Stage III wheels the same just different AR housings?

They are the same, just as all TD05H turbines are the same but will fit into a 6cm, 7cm, or 8cm DSM bolt-on housing as well as a 10cm T3 housing.

Are there any DSM housings that will fit a Garrett Stage III wheel?

Only those made by Precision, Turbonetics, Kinetic, and FP. Garrett does not offer such a housing as a T3 turbo was never intended for DSM use.

 

[Yamahaulin]

Justin, the 7 blade hx40 i got from you does not work with a 2.5" vibrant vband setup at the discharge to the intercooler. Do you know what year trucks these things come from so i can go get a stock discharge pipe.

 

[agarc023]

Can you tell what this is? The compressor housing is a conquest/starion 12a if I'm not mistaken but why's it ported to hell?

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[JusMX141]

Justin, the 7 blade hx40 i got from you does not work with a 2.5" vibrant vband setup at the discharge to the intercooler. Do you know what year trucks these things come from so i can go get a stock discharge pipe.

Any of the HX35's used on Dodge trucks would be the same...although I don't see why an aftermarket v-band of the same size would not fit. What is different about it?

Can you tell what this is? The compressor housing is a conquest/starion 12a if I'm not mistaken but why's it ported to hell?

Definitely a Starion / Conquest turbo with a larger compressor wheel...some sort of 16G variant. Pull the covers and measure the inducer to find what compressor it is.

 

[The Shodan]

Boy justin, you're just as busy as I am on Honda-Tech. Keep up the good information.

 

[cisco5311]

Justin,

The guy I bought my car off of said that this turbo was a ported and clipped 20g, is that correct?

He had deleted the coolant feed and just bypassed it into the block. I assume that is okay with the use of a turbo timer to give it some time to cool down?

Also, the last picture is of the OFH, which is where the oil feed is coming from, is the fitting that I am pointing to the restrictor?


Thanks in advance!

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[JusMX141]

Boy justin, you're just as busy as I am on Honda-Tech. Keep up the good information.

Honda guys, eh? You must have a LOT more patience than myself....every young Honda guy has aspirations of boosting their shitbox where most non-turbo DSM owners realize there is a much better starting platform available from the factory!

I appreciate it, though!

The guy I bought my car off of said that this turbo was a ported and clipped 20g, is that correct?

Absolutely correct. Appears to be a 20* clip from the pics- just a standard TD05H 20G otherwise....the same turbo FP sells for $530....although that is a ported 6cm turbine housing, which isn't doing much for top end. Might want to find a 7cm or 8cm DSM bolt-on housing before bolting this on.

He had deleted the coolant feed and just bypassed it into the block. I assume that is okay with the use of a turbo timer to give it some time to cool down?

Coolant is never required for operation on any journal bearing turbo even if the coolant provisions are present. There is nothing different about the center housing except for the water jacket. As long as it's treated like a non-water-cooled journal bearing turbo, there will be no negative effects.

Ball bearing turbos are another story- they require such little oil that what little oil they do get can burn and coke the bearings and oil passages if it is not given coolant. There are a few race-only cars running ball bearing turbos with no coolant, but this is NOT recommended for street-driven cars.

Also, the last picture is of the OFH, which is where the oil feed is coming from, is the fitting that I am pointing to the restrictor?

Appears to be some sort of aftermarket fitting- I don't believe the factory T25 fitting has a restrictor at the filter housing like that. If that's what had been previously used on the 20G, it's working perfectly....the turbine itself is a perfect shade of light tan / white and has no evidence of oil leakage at the turbine seal.

 

[asrdave]

That restrictor is factory, I had a fitting like that on my 2G Talon before I pulled it apart.

 

[JusMX141]

Interesting....so the T25 is actually restricted from the filter housing as well. So really NONE of the factory turbos used on DSM's were unrestricted from either source- head or filter housing.

I've changed out a handful of T25's over the years but never paid attention to the filter housing fitting I removed. I'll have to peer into the one on my GSX when I remove it!

 

[RavenX]

Hey Justin how much does a PTE undivided housing go for? Reason I ask is because I have a PTE DBB 57trim with a divided housing and it turns out I can't use (learned the hardway) the housing with a O2 mounted external gate. So am here debating whether I should just sell the turbo and get myself a FP HTA Green and be done with it. Thoughts?

 

[JusMX141]

No clue- you'll have to call PTE and ask....although I hope you don't have the same success I do when trying to buy turbo parts from those jagoffs.

Does you turbo use the T3 center housing and T31 turbine? If so, you can use any DSM bolt-on housing for such a turbo. Maybe you can get a good deal on one by contacing Kinetic direct- they build the SBR G-series turbos.

 

[RavenX]

No clue- you'll have to call PTE and ask....although I hope you don't have the same success I do when trying to buy turbo parts from those jagoffs.

Does you turbo use the T3 center housing and T31 turbine? If so, you can use any DSM bolt-on housing for such a turbo. Maybe you can get a good deal on one by contacing Kinetic direct- they build the SBR G-series turbos.

I honestly have no idea but it probably does. I know the housing is a .63AR DSM bolt on housing. The turbo is the PTE 3431re I believe. Only pic I got is after I had to have a friend of mine who works on turbos machine a new compressor outlet with surge ports because when I got the turbo years back it surged horribly past 25psi with the regular 3inch compressor housing. I still remember calling PTE when I was trying to get a compressor housing with surge ports and them telling me the turbo shouldn't surge . I don't hold them in the highest regard either.

I'll try making some calls tomorrow for a housing but I think as of now this turbo will just be put on sale and I'll just get the FP Green and be done with it.

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[Yamahaulin]

Any of the HX35's used on Dodge trucks would be the same...although I don't see why an aftermarket v-band of the same size would not fit. What is different about it?

Outside diameters are not the same. The vibrant is significanly larger than the flange on the turbo.

 

[danielsl1999gsx]

Hey justin what do you use clean turbo after they have been blown? i just blew my 16g&14b because of improper drainage and im rebuilding them. I just dont know what to use to clean the oil and burnt oil on my hotside and o2 housing? thanks for you help

 

[JusMX141]

I have a parts washer to remove all of the gunk from the internals- if there is severe oil coking inside the cartridge (found on many high-mileage 14B's), only a media blaster will remove it.

 

[cisco5311]

Absolutely correct. Appears to be a 20* clip from the pics- just a standard TD05H 20G otherwise....the same turbo FP sells for $530....although that is a ported 6cm turbine housing, which isn't doing much for top end. Might want to find a 7cm or 8cm DSM bolt-on housing before bolting this on.

Are the 7cm housings on ebay any good? Or should I steer clear and find a genuine Mitsubishi?

 

[Ppayer38]

Been researching since I got a 50 trim AGP(Turbonetics turbo) for very cheap....
Ive found before companies started making cast DSM bolt on housing for stage 3 garrett wheels people were machining DSM 7cm housings to fit theses wheels....

Any info you can give me about this as far how hard it would people and would it be coat effective to go this route?
Will run a external gate off the 02 housing if I can do this...

Not looking to push this turbo to its limits just make it easier to hit 350-400whp

 

[97gst_spyder]

Can you tell what this is? The compressor housing is a conquest/starion 12a if I'm not mistaken but why's it ported to hell?

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Could you use a compressor cover like this on a normal e316g after its ported?

 

[D's GS-T]

haha I love this thread. Do you know what one of those older buschur racing 440 turbos is by any chance.

 

[JusMX141]

Are the 7cm housings on ebay any good? Or should I steer clear and find a genuine Mitsubishi?

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...1680-china-ebay-7cm-td05-turbine-housing.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tur...-ebay-replacement-turbine-housing-issues.html

Been researching since I got a 50 trim AGP(Turbonetics turbo) for very cheap....
Ive found before companies started making cast DSM bolt on housing for stage 3 garrett wheels people were machining DSM 7cm housings to fit theses wheels....

Any info you can give me about this as far how hard it would people and would it be coat effective to go this route?

You can't expect it to be cost-effective. The MHI housings are v-band, the Garrett housings are not. Imagine how difficult this would be to achieve.

Try getting in touch with someone like Kinetic and PTE who cast their own DSM bolt-on housings and see if they will sell you just the turbine housing for a T31 Garrett to a MHI manifold and o2 housing.

Could you use a compressor cover like this on a normal e316g after its ported?

As long as it's cut for the Evo III compressor wheel, yes.

Do you know what one of those older buschur racing 440 turbos is by any chance.

Never seen or heard of such a beast.

 

[BoostedBeaver]

Justin in this picture would 1 or 3 be the port in which you would draw filter oil from the oil filter housing. Also just posting the rest of this info as it took me a bit to find it. Thanks in advance for your help.

1)Plug (Optional turbo feed from the OFH)
2)Factory Oil Pressure Switch to hook wire on
3)Plug
4)Nothing to change - this controls flow to the oil cooler
5)This is the oil pressure relief valve- this controls the amount on oil pressure
6)Oil Cooler line large Banjo bolt
7)Timing cover bolt
8)Oil Cooler line large Banjo bolt
9) Oil pressure sender (large gold round housing w/ wire connection on bottom)

 

[JusMX141]

Clean oil is always the upper port to my knowledge.