PTE 6031RE 60-1 or Holset HX40?

[tyger1]

i recently blew my holset turbo and getting it rebuilt now but i am looking to get another turbo as a back up. anyone has any experience on the PTE 6031RE 60-1 turbo? which is a better choice hx40 or 60-1? I plan on running around 25psi.

 

[danyz250f]

I have that turbo and I love it. Full boost with the exhaust cut out open at 4k 20psi in 3rd gear. Above 20 psi it really wakes up though. I have no experience with a holset though.

 

[tyger1]

i have a holset and really liked it alot. but just incase i do not want to wait for weeks to get my turbo rebuilt so i want to get a spare and the pte 60-1 sounds good. the only thing is right now i got a turbonetics cast manifold with 38mm tial wg and recirculated back into the exhaust stream by a custom o2 housing. if i do get the pte turbo i would have to buy another exhaust manifold and o2 housing. so i want to be sure about the PTE 60-1. so instead of taking off the turbo i can just take off the manifold and drop the down pipe and install the pte set up and bolt the downpipe back on and i am back in business.

no wait, no hassle, more fun!

 

[JayRolla]

If that is the 60-1 that has the stage 5 garrett wheel than yes its a great turbo. I would go with that, very comparable to the hx-40's flow. That is going to be my next turbo I think. Very good price on them also if you shop around.

 

[1fastlaser]

im running a 60-1 with a t4 p trim turbine wheel which is alittle bigger then the stage 5 wheel. Turbo rips on 24psi on my 2.4. I had it on 29psi and race gas and the car it pretty hard to hold on to on street tires.

 

[tyger1]

it has a stage three wheel. is it still worth getting?

 

[snailspool]

Im looking at the same turbo and want to know if the stage III turbine is still worth it as well.

 

[dsm-onster]

I HATED that I opted for the stage3 wheel with my 60-1 compressor. By the time the compressor woke up, the turbine was dead wore out. This was with my 6-bolt 2.0 block with fp2xs. . . The 60-1 needs a better flowing wheel. And that is the t3 stage 5 wheel. Too bad the hx40 turbine wheel in a bep housing flows as much and spools quicker.

The hx40 with the small bep housing spools as quick at a a t3 stage 60-1 and based on horsepower results apparently flows as much as a p-trim 60-1. Don't waste your time.

 

[Steve93Talon]

I've had experience with an HX40 and a 60-1 with a p-trim turbine wheel (which is practically identical to the Holset's turbine wheel), both in the BEP bolt-on housing. It's not even a close contest. The HX40 outspools it by 1000 RPMs and makes more power at a given psi. It's just a far more modern, efficient wheel.

 

[JWoodley]

Holset FTW!

 

[1gDSM4g63]

I've had experience with an HX40 and a 60-1 with a p-trim turbine wheel (which is practically identical to the Holset's turbine wheel), both in the BEP bolt-on housing. It's not even a close contest. The HX40 outspools it by 1000 RPMs and makes more power at a given psi. It's just a far more modern, efficient wheel.

I back that, the HX-40 spools faster. You'll be amazed that a nonball-bearing and a much larger turbo can spool faster than the 60-1. You'll be leaving a 60-1 in the dust. And I don't how many lbs. of boost you were doing when it blew but 25 psi. is half of what it can take.

 

[dsm-onster]

Yep. No other turbocharger characteristics are more effective in reaching the boost threshold sooner than turbine and compressor efficiency.

About what the hx40 can take. . . Hx40s have had random events of grenading with the cummins guys. It seams to be a very random thing. And after a rebuild with a new stock shaft, it usually doesn't occur again. Some say the hx40 shaft is weaker than the hx35. Some say its because the hx40 shaft is the same as the hx35 shaft, but the hx35/40 shaft can take but only so much beating from the larger hx40 wheels. Some say it's a combination of both combined with not enough oiling for the demands hx40 wheels put on the shaft. I tend to believe the later since the hx35 and hx40 share the same center cartridge.

Since, we all hear of random failures with all turbo brands, I think it could be hyped up a bit, though. It's likely that the hx35 is greatly overbuilt for its wheel sizes. And, of course, most simply compare hx40 durability to hx35 durability.

 

[silver bullit]

Stealing thread..Where is the cheapest place to get a hx 35 or 40?

BTW HX 40... nough said

 

[Steve93Talon]

To add to the 60-1 bashing, take a look at it's compressor map. This thing has no place on a high boost DSM. People got away with it back when 25-30 psi was considered "high boost". Times have changed greatly since then.

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[dsm-onster]

That is for a b-cover 60-1. The e-cover 60-1 has worked ok. . . We really don't have a map for the e-cover 60-1. But yea, it is old tech.