420A New Clutch??

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I am having a hard time finding out a decent priced new clutch that is less than 500.. nothing special just a clutch for a 95 nt. i tried to have one put on from a shop and they said the got one but it wouldnt work with my tranny, because the clutch is one big part with the flywheel, not 3 separate parts like everyone elses... anyone know anything?

 

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err, do you have an automatic or a manual transmission?

 

[Mark S.]

check out the selection from www.horsepowerfreaks.com. I believe south bend makes one for your car that is fairly inexpensive.

 

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err, do you have an automatic or a manual transmission?

are you serious....? Since when did automatics get clutches

 

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are you serious....? Since when did automatics get clutches

i was asking because of this comment. it sounded like you were talking about an automatic torque converter/flywheel set up and i wasn't sure.

because the clutch is one big part with the flywheel, not 3 separate parts like everyone elses

if you have a manual transmission, then the shop your taking it to is full of shit

 

[Mark S.]

The shop is telling the truth. It's called a modular clutch. In 420a cars the flywheel/pp/clutch disc is all one assembly. You have to replace it all at one time. Nobody knows why chrysler did this... possibly cheaper who knwos.

 

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great i found a street/strip clutch cheaper than any oem one $278 by "spec clutch" and its modular.

 

[peanotation]

The shop is telling the truth. It's called a modular clutch. In 420a cars the flywheel/pp/clutch disc is all one assembly. You have to replace it all at one time. Nobody knows why chrysler did this... possibly cheaper who knwos.

wow, that's so wierd, i never knew that. i assumed all mitsu front wheel drive cars uses the standard clutch/pressureplate/flywheel set up.

 

[Nforcer811]

I have been doing research on Non turbo clutches. Check this out. With a non modular clutch you need to purchase a flywheel or get your original resurfaced. With a modular there is no need is comes as a unit and bolts to a flex plate. So although it may look more expensive to go with a modular it isn't because you don't need to buy a lightened aluminum flywheel or have your flex plate machined. Once I found this out I realized that either the performance shops are ripping off the Non-turbo owners by trying to get them to run a non modular with lightened flywheel or they just don't have a clue about modular style clutches. For example a modular clutchmasters stage 3 fx300 runs $685 which requires no machining to the flex plate or a Flywheel. The nonmodular runs $452 plus you have to buy a flywheel or lightened aluminum flywheel which runs $319.00. You do the math. I am not accusing the shops of ripping peeps off because they may not know since modular is not as popular. But just FYI. I found this after reading many service manuals, Chiltons, Haynes and email to Chrysler Corp. Service.

Quote from Chrysler
"A modular clutch is a preassembled clutch pressure plate, clutch disc and flywheel. It bolts onto the same crankshaft-mounted driveplate that the automatic transmission Neons use. It cannot be disassembled for service -- instead, you just replace the modular clutch unit with a new one. "

I hope my info can be helpful...Don't let'em fool you into changing your setup just to spend more money and performance is the same...

Nforcer811

 

[suicidal2af]

I have been doing research on Non turbo clutches. Check this out. With a non modular clutch you need to purchase a flywheel or get your original resurfaced. With a modular there is no need is comes as a unit and bolts to a flex plate. So although it may look more expensive to go with a modular it isn't because you don't need to buy a lightened aluminum flywheel or have your flex plate machined. Once I found this out I realized that either the performance shops are ripping off the Non-turbo owners by trying to get them to run a non modular with lightened flywheel or they just don't have a clue about modular style clutches. For example a modular clutchmasters stage 3 fx300 runs $685 which requires no machining to the flex plate or a Flywheel. The nonmodular runs $452 plus you have to buy a flywheel or lightened aluminum flywheel which runs $319.00. You do the math. I am not accusing the shops of ripping peeps off because they may not know since modular is not as popular. But just FYI. I found this after reading many service manuals, Chiltons, Haynes and email to Chrysler Corp. Service.

Quote from Chrysler
"A modular clutch is a preassembled clutch pressure plate, clutch disc and flywheel. It bolts onto the same crankshaft-mounted driveplate that the automatic transmission Neons use. It cannot be disassembled for service -- instead, you just replace the modular clutch unit with a new one. "

I hope my info can be helpful...Don't let'em fool you into changing your setup just to spend more money and performance is the same...

Nforcer811

Wow, that's awesome! So when I start to wear out my disc in 20000 miles from hard launches, instead of buying a $120 street disc from ACT, I just need to pay $700 to buy a whole new modular assembly. What a deal.

Most machine shops are only going to charge you in the area of ~$50-75 to resurface/step a flywheel. If you go with a Fidanza flywheel, you can just *replace* the friction surface for $50.

Let's do some math here:

$452 for non-modular + $200 for fidanza flywheel = $652
Replacement of disc when it eventually wears out, +$150 = $802 in clutch parts with one disc replacement.

$685 for modular clutch, no flywheel needed.
Replacement when disc eventually wears out, +$685 = $1370 in clutch parts with one replacement(as the disc is a wear item).

It looks to me like it's cheaper up front and down the road. The only person that this is beneficial to is chrysler.

 

[Illicit TSi]

Give me some part numbers and I might be able to get something for your car less than 500.I need HP(if you dont know then mods list will work)and near future plans.I work in a speedshop and can get you what you need.
If you want to switch from a modular to a non modular then its up to you.However I will remind you of this.. THINK AHEAD OF TIME HOW MUCH YOU ARE LOOKING AT TO REPLACE OR FIX IT LATER ON WHEN IT GOES OUT AGAIN.
I personally would spend the major money now to witch over to non modular that way latter on if the disc goes bad all you SHOULD have to replace is the disc.Most pressure plates take alot to break,and unless you have a serious problem with riding the clutch,the pressure plate wont go bad for a while.