Dropping the battery lower. Anyone?

[v8s_are_slow]

Okay, I have the JMF battery kit but the cold (here in Florida) just isn't doing it for this little battery. Before I put in my 1450cc injectors, it'd fire up okay, but I'm not on the stock injectors anymore and don't have time to screw around with it anymore. Soooo, I pulled the JMF kit out today and put the stock battery back in. Didn't care to. But before I did, I checked to see how low I could get the battery and it went all the way down to the subframe.

I pm'd Nate at MAP to see what they could do for a plate/braket/mounting solution to the stock battery. I don't wanna do the whole battery relocation crap and the small battery is just too weak. But I need to make room for a smim and 3 inch i/c piping. Was just wondering if anyone else has done this before. I'll see what Nate says. I'm sure it can be done. If no one else has any pics to provide, I'll do it when I can make this happen. Just feel better knowing my car is gonna start when I need it to.

 

[Bluefire16]

Cold? In Florida? You must be kidding right? Its 55 in Orlando right now, its like 28 currently in Michigan where i live. Its most likely your tune, try adjusting.

Second, my friend has lowered his with very little work, not sure how but he has.

Your car should NOT have trouble starting in your "COLD" times.

 

[92AWDHX40]

pics on this move whats in the way and put it on the subframe you can do it, it can be done. threads on this too.

 

[black_gst]

i have been wanting to do the same thing but havent had the time to play with it... i was thinking to get a 1g battery box/tray and attach it some where down there but i havent had the time to try it out

 

[93_tsi_fwd]

Ive did this on my old 2g. I just used the stock metal base and welded some L brackets to bolt on to the frame and fire wall.

heres a picture of it.

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[Tyeler18]

Cold? In Florida? You must be kidding right? Its 55 in Orlando right now, its like 28 currently in Michigan where i live. Its most likely your tune, try adjusting.

Second, my friend has lowered his with very little work, not sure how but he has.

Your car should NOT have trouble starting in your "COLD" times.

This.
It's 2 degrees out right now and my little miata battery starts the talon right up. You don't even know cold.

Making brackets isn't too hard, that's really all it is to it.

 

[wkmitsu]

Haha, Florida cold...

I think there's something wrong with your small battery, it should start your car in whatever weather you have right now just fine. But if you want to, yeah you can lower your stock sized battery, lots of people do it. You can just make a bracket for it to sit down there.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

I'm in Panama City and it was in the 20's this morning. I'd say that's cold....for my location anyway. Battery is fairly new.

 

[gofer]

Mine rests on the subframe snuggly between the transmission mount and firewall and stays put without anything holding down, its so secure that the track even passes it through tech without a tie down...

 

[rommel rojasgsx]

im thinking about doing the same thing. but im probably using a stock honda battery. which is almost half the size. and im gona try to use my battery tray once i trim it.

 

[dsmrollerz90]

I want to see the steps on how to do it on a 1ga. I have been looking forward to doing this.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Mine rests on the subframe snuggly between the transmission mount and firewall and stays put without anything holding down, its so secure that the track even passes it through tech without a tie down...

I want mine sitting down there, and yeah, it's snug. But I'd want something to hold it down with. And I want a tray cause I don't want battery acid getting all over the subframe. Hard to believe that none of the companies have come out with a mount to do this yet. Guess they're scared that none of the small batteries would sell. But then again, I'd think they'd make more money off this. Keep your stock, more powerful battery, don't mess with adding weight by doing a relocation to the back, and just lower it a bit (with emissions delete of course). I'll fab something up I guess. Nate e-mailed back and said they'd have to have a car in the shop to do it. Oh well.

 

[boostforfun]

Wow... my car never has a problem starting in the cold... and thats upper midwest cold. I spent the whole last year in Florida, including the winter. I wore jeans or long pants once. Never put on a long sleeve shirt.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Wow... my car never has a problem starting in the cold... and thats upper midwest cold. I spent the whole last year in Florida, including the winter. I wore jeans or long pants once. Never put on a long sleeve shirt.

Wanna trade batteries?

 

[talon_swift7834]

I would definitely say you must have something else wrong. I have my battery relocated to the trunk in my VR4 and it started fine the other night at about 10° . Of course it's a little bit better than the Odyssey brand and most other small batteries. Braille batteries rock.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Yeah, mine's not a Braille though. And it's a newer battery. Not screwing around with it. 220 cca's just isn't very much on a nice cold day.

 

[bNasty]

Mine rests on the subframe snuggly between the transmission mount and firewall and stays put without anything holding down, its so secure that the track even passes it through tech without a tie down...

do you have any pics of how its resting?

 

[my dreamt dsm]

do you have any pics of how its resting?

Pix or it isn't true, right! ... i guess i'll search gofer's pictures.

 

[1990AWD]

This.
It's 2 degrees out right now and my little miata battery starts the talon right up. You don't even know cold.

Making brackets isn't too hard, that's really all it is to it.

haha

when my family and I went to Orlando for vacation, it got down to about 35F. everyone was wearing touques and bunny hugs; we went swimming outdoors! . in winter here in SK, 30F is t-shirt and shorts weather!

 

[nek]

I remember when I tried this with my battery, there was some bulky line down there that I was afraid would kink if I smashed by battery down there. It comes from the firewall but Im not sure where it goes to because I havent looked for a while. Its at least an inch to inch quarter diameter.

 

[nuclearr]

I just picked up the last of my sheet metal to build a tray for my battery drop. I did not want it on the sub frame due to clearance with my awd transmission. I also had issues with how close it was to the wire harness. I have a design in my head and am going to be putting it to sheet metal this weekend. the battery will sit 3-4 inches off the sub-frame. I have relocated the fuse box to the firewall where the battery used to be. This is going to be a bolt on tray. This one will be made of steel the next one will be made of aluminum to save weight.

 

[Bluefire16]

Yeah, mine's not a Braille though. And it's a newer battery. Not screwing around with it. 220 cca's just isn't very much on a nice cold day.

Again, please stop using the word COLD. You REALLY dont no cold. Come to the mid west, like Michigan, where we have to cancel school some days ### its so cold.

28 was warm, on a cold day with wind chill your looking at -20.

So again, stop saying in "cold" weather, you have no clue what cold weather is. Your car has issues or your battery. Even with mine relocated to the trunk starts up just fine every time at 540am with the temps at 9 degrees

 

[jrohner]

People here in minnesota have no issues a the small battery, so I'm told, and it's well below zero here for long periods of time.

 

[Tyeler18]

220cca's would make for a shitty winter battery. My little miata battery is like 450cca's. If 220 is all that little thing's got then I can see you having a problem. What do you use for oil?

 

[v8s_are_slow]

Okay, I know what cold is. I did a tour in the Navy, Army, and lastly, Air Force. I've been to Norfolk with -30 below, walking between two carriers on the water with wind whipping between them with a nice long walk to get to my car. I've been to Colorado in the Army and had to go for 10 mile runs in blizzards cause we were the only company stupid enough to work when the rest of the base was closed (being gung ho ftl), and I've been to Aberdeen for an Air Force school in the middle of winter, school getting out at midnight and power outages cause of the weather and no heat in my room. I've been to New York in the winter and got ear infections so bad that my ears bled. I have a clue what cold is, but hate it. Regardless, 20 is cold enough to me, cold enough that my car doesn't wanna start....for whatever the reason.

Aside from that, the topic is just lowering the battery, not trying to diagnois my problem but thanks for the thought. Whatever the case is, I have a stock battery in my car and it's starting just fine now. Small battery, it dies when trying to start it. So whatever the case, I just don't wanna fool with it. Just wanna keep a bigger battery where the cca's are a little higher and don't have to worry about my car not having enough juice to start it.

Gonna holler at JMF and see what they say. Apparently, it seems like there's some interest in this idea.