RedTurboEclipse
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I've been looking into cams recently and was really contemplating between the DKS or BC 272s for both the intake and exhaust.
I've always had my eye on the DKS cams for quite sometime before BC came up. Mostly because the DKS were "clones" of the HKS, and the HKS #s always proved to be noteworthy, yet I was always looking to save a buck thus the reason why the DKS was my #1 choice.
At the now even lower price of $297 (after core exhange) it was very tempting.
The BC cams were just a tad bit more, but they are not regrinds like the DKS.
After searching around I came upon Delta Camshaft company
Delta Camshaft
I did some search for anybody who had info on their cams for the DSMs. However no go, and the only close to relevant subject was this lousy thread
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cylinder-head-short-block/205128-delta-cams.html
There were some positive comments, but nothing too detailed or enough to make me feel good about committing with them.
After calling them up, I asked if they had any cams for the "DSM". First positive was they new what "DSM" was and they reassured this was the 4G63 cams. They told me they offered several profiles. If i can remember they had 264s, 272s, 280s. They said all based on HKS. They were reground cams.
I asked how much a set of intake/exhaust 272 cams would cost shipped to my door. $258 shipped And once you return your stock ones we will credit you back $60 for the cores, making the grand total $198 SHIPPED
So I went ahead and placed the order. They got to me fairly quick, not even a week to be exact
Even threw in a free shirt. (Boo on having a subaru and a honda on it though
) As you can see it also comes with the shims.
Unfortunately this is where this review/preview ends, because the car won't be running until ManGiNa ships me my VR Speed FMIC. But I like to start this thread as reference for future data and if anyone else already has experiences.
Just to ad, the guys over there are Delta were very helpful and really seem to know their stuff. They were aware of the differences with the 97+ and how the CAS is on the outside. A few other tidbits I'm trying to remember from my conversation with them. Unfortunately they will NOT predrill the cam for the CAS if you are getting regrinds from them straight up, you will have to send yours in to maintain it being drilled for the CAS. If your in no rush I guess this is no big deal and you pay less because no need for core exchange. They also noted they sell these cams new and NOT regrinds, but the prices were on par with BC cams last i remember. So another option for you guys who don't like regrinds. And one thing one of the reps said to me, if I ever wanted to get a group buy going of 5 or so people, they would knock off an extra $10-20.
Well of course when it comes to these things people want numbers and data. I'll try when I can, but it will take time since my car is down. I asked Delta if they could supply a cam card. They said they could and I hope to get it to share with you all.
puenmo himself will be helping me put these in, and perhaps he can give some input when he sees and inspects the cams physically during install.
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5/27
Finally started it up
YouTube - DSM Eclipse GSX GST Talon TSi Delta 272/272 Cams $198 Shipped - First Start Up Idle
I've always had my eye on the DKS cams for quite sometime before BC came up. Mostly because the DKS were "clones" of the HKS, and the HKS #s always proved to be noteworthy, yet I was always looking to save a buck thus the reason why the DKS was my #1 choice.
At the now even lower price of $297 (after core exhange) it was very tempting.
The BC cams were just a tad bit more, but they are not regrinds like the DKS.
After searching around I came upon Delta Camshaft company
Delta Camshaft
I did some search for anybody who had info on their cams for the DSMs. However no go, and the only close to relevant subject was this lousy thread
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/cylinder-head-short-block/205128-delta-cams.html
There were some positive comments, but nothing too detailed or enough to make me feel good about committing with them.
After calling them up, I asked if they had any cams for the "DSM". First positive was they new what "DSM" was and they reassured this was the 4G63 cams. They told me they offered several profiles. If i can remember they had 264s, 272s, 280s. They said all based on HKS. They were reground cams.
I asked how much a set of intake/exhaust 272 cams would cost shipped to my door. $258 shipped And once you return your stock ones we will credit you back $60 for the cores, making the grand total $198 SHIPPED
So I went ahead and placed the order. They got to me fairly quick, not even a week to be exact
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Even threw in a free shirt. (Boo on having a subaru and a honda on it though
) As you can see it also comes with the shims. Unfortunately this is where this review/preview ends, because the car won't be running until ManGiNa ships me my VR Speed FMIC. But I like to start this thread as reference for future data and if anyone else already has experiences.
Just to ad, the guys over there are Delta were very helpful and really seem to know their stuff. They were aware of the differences with the 97+ and how the CAS is on the outside. A few other tidbits I'm trying to remember from my conversation with them. Unfortunately they will NOT predrill the cam for the CAS if you are getting regrinds from them straight up, you will have to send yours in to maintain it being drilled for the CAS. If your in no rush I guess this is no big deal and you pay less because no need for core exchange. They also noted they sell these cams new and NOT regrinds, but the prices were on par with BC cams last i remember. So another option for you guys who don't like regrinds. And one thing one of the reps said to me, if I ever wanted to get a group buy going of 5 or so people, they would knock off an extra $10-20.
Well of course when it comes to these things people want numbers and data. I'll try when I can, but it will take time since my car is down. I asked Delta if they could supply a cam card. They said they could and I hope to get it to share with you all.
puenmo himself will be helping me put these in, and perhaps he can give some input when he sees and inspects the cams physically during install.
=============================================
5/27
Finally started it up
YouTube - DSM Eclipse GSX GST Talon TSi Delta 272/272 Cams $198 Shipped - First Start Up Idle
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