cooling upgrades/ fixes

[RMTN1G]

Hey guys new to the forum and DSM in general... One of the first projects on this car is cooling the rad and hoses look like they have seen better days... so I know I'm going with the mishimoto rad, hoses and fan... I figure while im in there it would be a good time to get after FMIC.... so my question is, there seems to be plenty of options out there, is there one that stands out from the rest as far as fit and quality go?

 

[motomattx]

Quality wise, try to stick with an intercooler with a Garrett core.

 

[Tanro]

Really depends on your budget.

Entry Level, but very good kits. Will handle anything you can through at a stock block. :
http://www.punishment-racing.com/punishment-racing-fmic-kit-1990-94-eclipse-talon/
http://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-1g-dsm...it-fmic-90-94-eclipse-talon-turbo-1g-dsm.html

Full race car? Want the best spool up times? The ETS Core will have the least amount of pressure drop across the core. This is one of the, if not the best core still in production for our cars.
https://www.extremeturbosystems.com/1G-DSM-Eclipse-Intercoolers-and-Intercooler-Kits/
Dunno if they still offer pipes for the 1g or not. But these are only cores, and not full kits. But they are the best cores you can get as far as quality and fitment.

I've had the punishment racing on a 1g, and the 2g version of the vrsf kit twice. No complaints about either. Except both of my vrsf kits were older versions without a lip on the inlet pipe for the core.

 

[RMTN1G]

Thanks for the info guys, those kits do seem to be pretty high quality... I’d probably go ETS if I can find pipes for it and be completely future proof even though I don’t plan on going crazy with the car... but we all know how that can go . The time to fab my own piping would definitely be my deciding factor on picking a full kit... but I’ll do some searching for the pipe, I’m sure some corner of the internet will have it

 

[2gmitsueclipse]

Not related specifically to the only the intercooler, but have some input into the cooling aspect:

• Invest in good quality fans. OEM are surprisingly very efficient. SPAL would be the among the next best options.
• Not sure if A/C was considered in the equation or not, but sealing the area between the intercooler and radiator will ensure that air is not escaping around the radiator.

 

[RMTN1G]

Hey thanks man I’ll check into those or just stick with oem it seems in most cases the manufacturers always seem to get their fans engineered quite well...and save a few bucks since they are working just fine and not a hard change later on if need be... Ive always been a big fan of making sure that all the air possible goes through the ic, rad and condenser... not 100% on if I will be ditching a/c or not... I’ve done it before and regret it in July

 

[bluespunk]

Not sure if A/C was considered in the equation or not, but sealing the area between the intercooler and radiator will ensure that air is not escaping around the radiator.

That can't be overstated. Just riveting some aluminum flashing to seal between the fmic and the radiator made a world of difference for me. If you're running AC, the condenser adds quite a bit of resistance to air flow. Once you add an fmic, this becomes pretty noticeable. You need to make the air flow that's left work as efficiently as you can. Keep as much of your plastic radiator shroud intact as you can too. I ended up remaking mine out of aluminum flashing.

When I was done, I could toss a shop rag in front of the FMIC while the fans run and it would get pulled to the FMIC and stick to it.

 

[RMTN1G]

nice tip bro... My job is an an HVAC sheet metal shop so getting some pieces of thin galvanized cut and bent up for just that job would be easy

 

[Turbo2g]

+1 on keeping factory fans. The only time to deviate is when you have to go slimmer for a larger turbo. I had an eclipse in the past that came with some slim cool looking fans, but they didn't pull enough air. They always ran, never turned off after the first heat up because car just ran hot, and a/c never got cold. Put factory fans back in and all these issues disappeared. You could feel the major difference in air being pulled with your hand behind the fans.

 

[Boomdeeze]

The VRSF intercooler kit has been proven on cars over 600 AWHP. For the price of the kit you can't go wrong with it. That is the kit I run and boost 37psi on an HTA76 with zero IAT issues.

Cooling- If you need to go with slim fans, buy some nice SPAL fans and you will not have any issues with temps. The higher end SPAL fans pull/push a tons of air. I run the dual core Mishimoto radiator and have for years without problems.

 

[Vegas Smith]

Try and stick with the stock fan setup with a nicer radiator. Also, as previously mentioned, the VRSF kit has been proven to make 600hp but keep in mind that it only takes one pull to make 600hp. Who knows if the efficacy starts dropping after the first run.

 

[Boomdeeze]

Try and stick with the stock fan setup with a nicer radiator. Also, as previously mentioned, the VRSF kit has been proven to make 600hp but keep in mind that it only takes one pull to make 600hp. Who knows if the efficacy starts dropping after the first run.

I made 10+ pulls on the dyno and it did not drop in efficiency. I also made back to back passes at the track when it was 90+ degrees outside and my IAT's stayed in check.

 

[RMTN1G]

sorry for the late response been busy af.... thumbs up to the factory fans responses... I'm a cummins guy basically forever and i found that nothing beats the factory fan on those for cooling, even for my twinned truck. Basically on my car the cooling just needs some love blowing a hose ruins your day and they look a bit rough , Also thanks for the VRSF info it seems to be the only kit you can actually find, I never need an excuse to bust out the TIG but i don't have a bender so I'm kinda screwed there.... at 37 psi do run an exhaust backpressure gauge.... pm if i'm taking this thread off topic.