420A Broken bell Housing

[Gavinrich25]

Hey guys, took the car out and somhow my bell housing snapped where it holds the slave cylinder. Does anybody know any aftermarket or where I could get one I’ve looked on market place or eBay does anybody know if molar parts work?

 

[97egl]

The bellhousing from 2000 and newer dodge neon transmissions will interchange. Some later 90's models may interchange as well as long as it's a hydraulic clutch. Can be from a dohc or sohc neon as long as the trans is hydraulic clutch the engine doesn't matter as sohc/dohc use the same engine block.

 

[dustyboner]

without seeing it, its hard to say, but you may be able to have the piece welded back on.

 

[Gavinrich25]

I can get some pics of it and I thought are bell housing are made of a weird iron if I could weld it that would be great

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

They are aluminum, unless the 420 trans is majorly different than the 4g63 transmissions. I can't imagine it being made out of iron of any type.

 

[dustyboner]

bell housing is aluminum.

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[Gavinrich25]

Hey guys did a little bit of digging 97egl said that a 2000 and up transmission would work so in theory couldent I buy a mopar bell housing I found one on mopargiants I’ll drop a link or part number if anybody could confirm that it’ll work 5102888AA is the part number here’s a pic

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[BLACK'98DSM]

You can get a belhousing for $50 at the junkyard. Or a full transmission for around $100

 

[Gavinrich25]

I found a neon in a pick n save near me but that’s it there are no eclipses in my area at all

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Look for Dodge Avengers 94-99 manual trans

 

[97egl]

I would just go get the whole transmission from the neon. The part you have above says it fits 03-10 transmissions so they must have made a design change to the transmission in 03 so the bellhousing may not bolt directly up to the neon transmission then.

You'll have a higher final drive ratio on the gears but that just means better gas mileage. I had a neon tranmission in my 97 talon back in the day and it still drove fine just less RPM

 

[Gavinrich25]

Okay so it’s a 94-99 I thought 2000 up, sorry for the confusion guys I just gotta figure this out. Thanks for all your help

 

[97egl]

Dodge Avengers 95-99 are direct bolt in as stated by @BLACK'98DSM above but if you're getting one from a neon it has to have a hydraulic clutch not a cable clutch. (They changed from cable to hydraulic around 2000)

 

[Gavinrich25]

Hey guys so did some digging and a ad for the exact t350 trans is on eBay Named pt cruiser are those the same trans there are tons of those around here in the junkyard

 

[97egl]

Yes PT cruiser manual transmission will swap right into an Eclipse. You may have to swap the shifter arms but that's very easy to do

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

PT gear ratio is slightly different too but if you're just using the belhousing that's no worry at all.

 

[Gavinrich25]

Yeah that’s what I was planning on doing I found one on that mopar giants but I’m not sure if there the same they look exactly alike

 

[Gavinrich25]

So guys I finally got the car back and took some pics do y’all think this should be welded or replaced? And if welded could it hold the pressure from the slave?
I’ll try and get pics from the slave part that broke soon

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[pauleyman]

If you buy a bell housing you do understand the replacement requires complete transmission teardown.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

I wouldn't say complete teardown. You're just separating the belhousing from the casing and installing the new one. And adding some gasket maker so it seals properly. Gearstacks and diff can stay in place.

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You'll only be this deep in the trans. But diff still in place.

 

[Gavinrich25]

Whatever I have to do is fine, but if welds would hold I’d just weld it but I’ve had Facebook forums say they might hold up so what’s the best option

Anybody have a idea what would be wiser?

 

[VelocitàPaola]

I would replace the whole thing. Welding it will take just as much work (removing the transmission, disassembly, etc.), and depending on who welds it, it will cost just as much, if not more.

 

[motomattx]

If you have the means replace the stupid thing, welds look bad if you ever try to sell it or want to take it to a car show, there could be more damage than what you are having welded which means that it could break somewhere else, welding cast aluminum is asking for trouble because it becomes brittle when it gets welded, and if thats not enough reason, a new housing is simply going to be stronger than a repaired housing.

 

[Gavinrich25]

Alright, thank you guys a lot Miller imports have the bellhousing so I’ll order it from them. Thank y’all again for your help