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Awd swap or manual swap?

Posted by Zakary mcrae, Feb 14, 2020

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  1. Zakary mcrae

    Zakary mcrae Probationary Member

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    I own an automatic 95 eagle talon tsi with transmission problems, and I recently acquired a 96 gst with really low miles. My question is, would it be more worth it to swap the awd system from the tsi into the gst or swap the manual tranny from the gst into the talon? The talon has 130k miles and the gst has 84k, but the talon is in far better condition as far as interior and body goes
     

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  2. ishnish

    ishnish Proven Member

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    I would say this all depends on your goals. I LOVE driving stick personally. BUT, I love AWD way more. Also, now that it's getting so hard to source manual transmissions because they break so much and people go through them, a lot of people are sticking to auto anyway because you break less parts and autos make faster drag cars (at least this is what the consensus is based off what I've read). So it all depends on your goals and likes/dislikes.
     

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  3. Canadian_CD9A

    Canadian_CD9A Proven Member

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    I would just buy a new transmission for the TSi AWD. An AWD swap is a big job, a manual transmission is smaller, but it's pretty pointless to kill the AWD if you have it.
     
  4. Zakary mcrae

    Zakary mcrae Probationary Member

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    The auto tranny seems to be damn near impossible to find, either the tranny itself or parts for it. I love manual but I dont mind the auto at all. I was just considering how to get an awd running since Its hard to find parts for the auto
     

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    1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    fwd · manual · 2G DSM

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  5. Zakary mcrae

    Zakary mcrae Probationary Member

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    Thanks, I wasnt sure how big of a job the awd swap was. I've been looking for auto trannys and they're hard to come across. I'd be willing to just rebuild mine but finding parts for it is difficult
     

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    1996 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
    fwd · manual · 2G DSM

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    1995 Eagle Talon TSi
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  6. 609DSM

    609DSM Proven Member

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    I say go for both!
     

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  7. motomattx

    motomattx Proven Member

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    Go for both.
     

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  8. pauleyman

    pauleyman DSM Wiseman

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    You need to be more clear. If you swap awd to the gst remember those are auto parts not 5spd parts so you will still need a viable auto awd trans.
     

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  9. Bleakley

    Bleakley Proven Member

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    This is by far my biggest pet peeve with the platform.
    No viable options. You're basically stuck when the auto takes a sh**. It’s a crock.
     

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  10. Bleakley

    Bleakley Proven Member

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    If there was a way to adapt the Hyundai V6 F4A33 trans to our cars we’d be in business. But no, we’re f***ed. Lol.
    Maybe I should look into this?
     

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  11. TheFlashDSM

    TheFlashDSM Supporting Member

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    parts are very easy to find! its a w4a33 transmission.

    goto google, and type in "w4a33" and look at shopping! they have everything from full transmissions to nuts and bolts!
     

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  12. TheFlashDSM

    TheFlashDSM Supporting Member

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  13. GRNDSM

    GRNDSM Moderator

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    I did FWD Auto to AWD 5sp swap on my Spyder. That is a lot of work. I would simply fix the broken transmission...
     

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  14. mitsubishikid

    mitsubishikid Proven Member

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    When you say "transmission problems" what exactly do you mean?

    it could be as simple as a bad tcu or a few loose wire connectors or low transmission fluid from leaking axle seals etc, a lot of people are scared of auto transmissions that they would overlook basic tests in favor of swapping in a manual transmission so I think more details on the ops part to explain what is going on with the transmission might help us give you a strategy on how to fix or test it.
     

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