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LandSpeed-DSM said:
Well, the 2JZ, like any motor not limited by an inherent head flow issue.. just needs a cam and complimentary intake/exhaust manifolds coupled with a turbo that can service a high VE 3.0 past 8k in order to make power past 8k. Because you know a guy who's setup is falling off at 8k does not mean all 2JZ's do that


Let's steer this back towards 4G63's shall we? I think I take some of the blame for the threadjack to other platforms LOL
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Thanks I knew we would come back to some common sense here!:thumb:
 
My 600 refrence was in reguards to the thread title. I'm most likely at around 530ish 30psi hx40. I'll have track times on the 7th with the .55 but I'll go to magnus' dyno after I'm T3'd up! Then more track times! :thumb:

For the record he asked me to race, i asked what he has and he said stock 2jz so i shrugged and said alright LOL.
 
Batmowheel for HX40 looks like a copy of a standard Borg warner wheel but 6 blade instead of 7 with a fancy leading edge. I think it might spool a little slower then a standard 6 blade HX40 wheel but should flow more in higher boost due to larger exducer side (extended tip). $400+ dollars seems a little steep though considering you can get a nice billet wheel from pure turbo for $100 dollars less.
 
HTA82 here making 675whp on pump and daily driven in the summer. 28psi to boot.
 
The 62mm wheel that I used is considered 62/86. I think the factory HX40 billet wheel is the same shape as a standard cast wheel. In terms of strength billet is stronger but flow wise I think it should flow about the same, of course if I was to pick between the two I would take billet.

Some time ago Charles from pure turbo emailed me few pictures of their HX40 60/86 7 blade billet wheel next to a standard cast 7 blade wheel and the difference is obvious right away. He said that on the inducer side the leading edge of the blade is 2mm wider then a standard wheel meaning that even though that wheel is still 60mm it has total 4mm more blade width. Looking at those pictures I could see how much smaller the hub was on their wheel vs cast. Another thing about their wheel is that the exducer side has true 86mm diameter from tip to tip vs cast being about 84.5mm

I know our standard 6 and 7 blade HX40 is considered 60/86 but if you actually measure the blade width from tip to tip you will find its only about 84.5 and the back place is actually 86, the tips of the blade on the exducer side don't quite go all the way out to the edge of the back plate. I know 1.5mm isn't much but everything adds a little bit. I've heard people have seen good HP gains going from gt3582 wheel to gt3586, so if there are gains from 4mm larger exducer then I would imagine 1.5mm would roughly be 3rd of that but a gain for sure. I have seen this same situation with the exducer side on several holset compressor wheels including my billet HX52 wheel and BAE 62/86 wheel. I bet if you take your compressor cover off you will see that your tips on the exducer are a little bit shorter then the back plate itself.

I'm not ripping on you turbo, I'm in the same boat with my factory billet HX52 wheel, I'm just putting out there some of the minor details I've noticed looking at different compressor wheel.
 
urbansmoker1 said:
So you dont see any gains over the bullet 7 blade?
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If I understand you correctly you mean between stock 7 blade billet vs stock 7 blade cast. I think billet is better in terms of durability, it might flow a little more but I don't think enough to make a real difference.
Now if you were to compare stock billet vs after market billet like the one from pure turbo I would say that pure turbo one would flow more for sure, probably 7-10% more.
 
Looking at the two wheels I think that BAE 62mm wheel would flow more then a stock 7 blade billet. Not only is it 2mm larger on the inducer but its also taller by a few mm. I've never tested those wheels back to back so I can't say for sure, I'm just looking at it from the physics aspect of things.
 
Just from my personal experience.....

I'd go with a 3582, i ran one on my car that i drove in the streets a lot... With my 2.4 it was responsive & really didn't have any negatives
 
11Banger said:
Just from my personal experience.....

I'd go with a 3582, i ran one on my car that i drove in the streets a lot... With my 2.4 it was responsive & really didn't have any negatives
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And if you would have ran 6 blade HX40 with bep .70 a/r housing you would have said the same thing except you would have made more power and the turbo would have sounded like a semi truck rolling down highway :)
 
Boostdriven said:
And if you would have ran 6 blade HX40 with bep .70 a/r housing you would have said the same thing except you would have made more power and the turbo would have sounded like a semi truck rolling down highway :)
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Look, I like Holsets myself and have one on the car.. but you are making a hell of a lot of assumptions and taking quite a bit of license with some of these statements.
 
dollar for dollar pound for pound the hx series of holset is UNTOUCHABLE. period. HX is the work-horse of all turbos. made to be over worked and under paid. theres nothing more versitile in terms of what a HX can do.
 
Boostdriven said:
A little bit if sarcasm never hurt anybody ;) I didn't say anything wrong or misleading
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except you would have made more power
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Except, there's no way of knowing till they are both strapped on back to back without touching the tune, or run down the dragstrip and compare traps.

Just like your 2JZ comment, a lot of assumptions you are making.
 
Boostdriven said:
And if you would have ran 6 blade HX40 with bep .70 a/r housing you would have said the same thing except you would have made more power and the turbo would have sounded like a semi truck rolling down highway :)
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That was before everyone started running them... The turbo i am running now is better than a Holset IMO. Sold the 35 for something bigger.
 
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