Resolved 1G Brake Upgrade to 2G/Outlander Caliper, need SS Brake Lines

[PredatorSniper]

Hello Experts,

I have a 1990 Talon TSi AWD. I purchased the car, it came with the typical 8-piece SS Braided line upgrade. From what I'm reading, for me to go to a 2G or Outlander front brake upgrade I need to have a banjo type fitting vs the threaded fitting my 1G currently has for brake lines.

Is there any way to source the one SS brake line that goes from my strut to the caliper that will fit the Outlander brake kit? Or can you tell me what types of ends I need so I can get some custom brake lines made?

Thank you in advance,
Mike

 

[1990TSIAWDTALON]

I run 2g dual Piston Calipers on one of my cars and the only thing I needed was a brake line from the caliper to the framerail that matched the banjo fitting on the 2g caliper so I used a 2g line is all.
Thread '2g Dual Piston Calipers on a 1g' https://www.dsmtuners.com/threads/2g-dual-piston-calipers-on-a-1g.534534/

 

[CrackedDSM]

I thought you used Outlander calipers?

This is a base model 1g 3kgt/stealth caliper. Not a banjo like 2g DSM.

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Outlander calipers are the same as any other dsm or 3kgt dual piston Caliper. I used the base model 3kgt calipers. What’s important is the brake bracket from the outlander and the outlander rotor.


The Caliper pictured is the same ones I used.

 

[pauleyman]

Outlander calipers are the same as any other dsm or 3kgt dual piston Caliper. I used the base model 3kgt calipers. What’s important is the brake bracket from the outlander and the outlander rotor.


The Caliper pictured is the same ones I used.

I think they were pointing out that Outlander uses banjo like a 2g vs that pic of 3kgt which is a flare like 1g.

I am curious if outlander pistons are like 1g/2g or 3kgt or something else altogether. Don't remember that being discussed.

 

[DarkStalker]

I haven't put them on yet but here's the Outlander 2 piston banjo calipers and the required lines for the big brake kit. I have the drilled Outlander rotors as well.

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[CrackedDSM]

I think they were pointing out that Outlander uses banjo like a 2g vs that pic of 3kgt which is a flare like 1g.

I am curious if Outlander pistons are like 1g/2g or 3kgt or something else altogether. Don't remember that being discussed.

I have a couple reman Outlander calipers if you’re curious and need measurements. After the banjo flare adapter didn’t work I just bought regular flare fitting 3kgt calipers. Mainly because one of the Outlander calipers had a stripped bleed screw.

 

[Tbenner05]

I haven't put them on yet but here's the Outlander 2 piston banjo calipers and the required lines for the big brake kit. I have the drilled Outlander rotors as well.

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Where did you grab those lower lines from? thanks

 

[DarkStalker]

Where did you grab those lower lines from? thanks

FTP Front Brake Line Kits: Mitsubishi 1990-1994 Eclipse AWD with 1995-1999 Eclipse (2G) AWD Calipers

FTP is D.O.T. Certified--Safety Matters. Fluid Transfer Products, Inc. is a manufacturer of stainless steel braided Teflon® hoses. Like steel belted radial tires on your vehicle, steel-braided brake lines provide a similar improvement in safety. Unlike the factory-original rubber brake lines...

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[dwb]

If anyone is curious, here's the measurement of a base model 1g 3kgt/stealth front caliper piston.

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[Drewpy Dawg]

FWIW, they fit under my 16 inch Enkeis, but there's not a ton of room. OEM 16's may be tight.

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[steve]

If anyone is curious, here's the measurement of a base model 1g 3kgt/stealth front caliper piston.

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Pretty dang close.
The FSM says the 3S NA M-R57W caliper piston is 42.8mm x 2 compared to the 93+ DSM AWD M-R56W caliper is listed as 41.3mm x 2 (the 2G FSM says 42.9mm x 2 for same M-R56W caliper) WTF.