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Autocross Build 1992 VR4 #71/1000

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1992
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Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
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  1. iugrad92turbo

    iugrad92turbo Supporting Member

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    Looks great keep up the great work
     

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
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  2. iceguru1114

    iceguru1114 Proven Member

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    Had a decent couple of days of progress recently. I started by ordering some new parts from JNZ (flex lines, EBC pads, and Hawk pads.. yes the brand mixing was intentional; coefficient of friction/sourcing combo of issues there). I had to buzz the paint off the EBC pads to make them fit. I also went ahead and ordered fresh hardware for the rear caliper carriers and installed the pads:
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    Installing the rear lines took a little bit of work to prep the brackets, but otherwise, went in perfectly:
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    Up front, I started with the lines by recovering the mounting brackets, which ended up being a slight adventure on the right side. However, once I got everything loose the brackets cleaned up reasonably well:
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    After the bracket cleanup I got the front lines and pads installed:
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    In order to "define" both ends of the system so that I can start running the hard lines, I had to finish the brake booster and the prop valve rescue missions:
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    Finally, I got the booster, new master cylinder, and prop valve, installed on the firewall:
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    After the parts cleaner project, the blast cabinet project, refurbishing the brake system to the point of "ready to install hard lines", completing a big project at work, and sleep training my son (definitely the hardest part of all), I decided to take a pandemic-responsible day trip to Keystone to get a break on the slopes:
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    In spite of the tough times we're all dealing with, I'm starting to find some good to enjoy here and there :)
     

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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
    awd · manual · Galant VR-4
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  3. iugrad92turbo

    iugrad92turbo Supporting Member

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    Ooh I do love some skiing, headed to a friend's one day out in Boise to have some fun.
     

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
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  4. iceguru1114

    iceguru1114 Proven Member

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    Well, after taking 1.5 hours to run the first hard line, I'm really hoping the other 8 I still have to run take a little less time. Now that I have some practice with the tools under my belt the crimps may go a little faster, but I doubt the routing will... we'll see.

    I had to practice a few times to get the process right:
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    I mocked the line up first with a coat hanger, then used my bending tool to get to the real deal set up. After that, I double flared it, cleaned it up, put it in, tightened it down and contemplated doing that 8 more times. Considering I've only ever done hard lines one time before, the first line could have gone worse. We'll see how things look after I've done this a few more times.
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    On a side note, I added a new horse to the stable:
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    I want to thank everyone on the forums for their suggestions and advice. I ended up going with the Aircat because it struck a good balance between cost and performance, it comes with a 2 year warranty, it's new, I know where it's been and how it's been treated (or hasn't been treated, rather), it's extremely powerful and, perhaps most importantly, it's only 86 dBA which is very important in a garage attached to a house with a sleeping baby.

    More hard lines coming soon :)
     

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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
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  5. iceguru1114

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    I made more progress than I expected today. I've now run 5 of the 9 hard lines I'll need to finish the job. Started with the t-junction for the front calipers:
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    Ran this buster to the front left:
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    Ran the jumper between flex lines at the front left:
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    Ran the jumper at the front right:
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    After this one was done, I was out of flare nuts to keep working. Parts on order to remedy that; 4 lines to go.
     

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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
    awd · manual · Galant VR-4
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  6. iceguru1114

    iceguru1114 Proven Member

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    The discerning observer will notice a mistake here:
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    Although you can find a few pictures on the web kinda sorta detailing this area, if I'd have just thought about Bernoulli's law for a second, it'd have been a no-brainer. Anyway, I had to redo the line going to the prop valve, this time running to the correct port so that transient pressure to the rear drops while passing from a larger to a smaller cross sectional area:
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    That routing will make a little more sense when the other 2 lines are run through that area as well.

    I concluded the night by running the hard line from the front right into the engine bay:
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    I chose to put a break junction in this line to make servicing in this area easier because, let's face it, this is a DSM and I will have to take things apart again.
     

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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
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  7. iceguru1114

    iceguru1114 Proven Member

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    I'll give you one guess about an upcoming modification to the car:
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    It rhymes with shalance baft and it's required to make the engine DSP legal. BTW, I probably should have hoarded parts for this car about 5 years ago. Mitsubishi is discontinuing a lot of stuff.

    Now that the brake system finish line is within sight, I'm strongly considering turning my attention to the engine, fuel system, and ECU so that I can hear this bastard run.
     

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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
    awd · manual · Galant VR-4
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  8. iceguru1114

    iceguru1114 Proven Member

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    I finally got the front brakes completely done. The last line was definitely the toughest. I had to start by cleaning, drying, and mounting the firewall cover because that's a critical system interaction for the line that runs across the engine bay. It's a delicate piece, so dish soap and the bathtub worked well to get it freshened up without shredding it to pieces:
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    After looking at lots of pictures to remember what I needed to avoid and which bosses I could use for p-clips, I was able to route the line pretty precisely. Practice with the other lines resulted in a pretty good-looking piece:
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    In terms of hard line routing:
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    Now to route the rear lines, which I don't think will be nearly as cumbersome as the front system was. Only 3 lines left before I can test the brakes.
     

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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
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  9. iugrad92turbo

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    Looks great
     

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    1992 Eagle Talon TSi
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  10. iceguru1114

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    As I suspected, the rear lines, while much simpler to route, had their own challenges to overcome because FUBAR. I had to drill out several bolts and chase some threads to preserve the original line routing bosses. I did this about 4 or 5 times:
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    I was not too happy about my routing options in the rear subframe area, so I modified some t-nuts, drilled some holes and welded them into place. 6 in total:
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    Now I have all my rear line p-clip bosses "primed" and ready to go (trying to get my dad jokes polished up for when my son starts talking). I think the last 3 lines I have to run should be pretty easy. However, I do have a rear caliper modification to make so that I can use the parking brake and call the braking system done. More coming soon.
     
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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
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  11. iceguru1114

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    Big milestone completed on the brakes; all lines have been completed!!! To finish this up, I started by running a line to the rear to create a t-junction back there:
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    After attempting my first flare on the line to the rear right, my flaring tool gave up and I had to perform some surgery to get it fixed. It was kind of impressive, actually. The wing nuts and the pin joints all gave up at around the same time so I drilled out the pins and replaced them with larger/stronger nuts and bolts, ran a die over the marred up threads, and replaced the stripped wing nuts with some standard nuts. Oddly, the end result ended up working better than the flaring tool did out of the box:
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    Back to running the lines. Rear right:
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    Finally, ran the last line to the rear left:
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    At this point, if I wanted to, I could put fluid in the system and use the brakes, which is a big psychological victory. For the first time in years, I made a subsystem on the car functional again. However, there's a little more to do on the brakes. The rear calipers that I got from Rock Auto are going to require some surgery so that I can mount the parking brake cable brackets in the correct place. As you can see they machined the wrong side of the bracket:
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    More coming to fix that soon. I'm also going to put some finish on all the line brackets to stop the rust on those, refurbish the e-brake linkage, and then call the brakes done.
     
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    1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
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  12. iceguru1114

    iceguru1114 Proven Member

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    I thought this photo deserved its own, dedicated post. I added some choice clothing to my wardrobe and took this photo to summarize DSM ownership.
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    Owning a functional DSM is an awful lot of work, but you do it anyway because you’re the type of moron who buys clothing depicting his shitbox car. You put your shitbox together and you sink a hole in your wallet to keep your shitbox running. You’re proud of your shitbox even if no one else gets it until, perhaps, you blow their doors off with an apparent piece of junk. It’s a special kind of obsession.

    Cheers DSM’ers. Keep calm and wrench on.
     

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    Hahahahaha! Best description of DSM ownership ever!

    Enjoying the build, especially since it is pic heavy and can sympathize with your struggles every step of the way. Keep at it. We're all cheering for your success.
     

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  14. TCB91GSX

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    Awesome work!!
     

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  15. iceguru1114

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    Thanks man, really appreciate the support. I've said it a few times in this thread, but having the community rooting me on has definitely kept me going sometimes when I wonder if it's worth it.
     

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  16. iugrad92turbo

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    It will be worth it in the end.
     

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