Why do not that many DSM's even consider nitrous

[sbeck]

I was wondering why not very many people use nitrous on the DSM. I have a dry kit that I had on my LT1 and was considering using it since I can't really get much money selling it.

 

[Maverick4g63]

Yea the trap is a bit low. The bike didnt want to back half. I had to ride the hell out of it to get that quick. O well... And yes its 6" over and slammed. -1,+5 sprocket combo. I cut 1.6 60's swb and height. I love the 1320.

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[overboosted1g]

because our engine's are already ticking time bombs as is.

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[ramsack]

Because they don't understand it's the same thing as a turbo but more efficient. It adds oxygen to the combustion process, but cools in the incoming air. And because they hear stories from people who think it's a fuel and not an oxidizer who know nothing and blow their engines up because of that lack of knowledge, the people who think a kit is made to just put on a car with no effort required, or any other devices to support it.

 

[dsmtwins2g]

nos causes shit to blow up an your floor pans to fall out.

 

[burkgonzo]

After going though the F&F quotes. I plan on using a NX main line kit to spray a 50hp shot to get on the converter. Would I spray it on a stock engine? Yes.

 

[gob4sho89]

I had the same thought at one time as far as why so few dsm's run N2O... Now I have expierence using it on many types of cars and trucks and find myself debating doing a 30r with a progressive 75 up to maybe 150 shot using a zex kit on my new awd or going just boost and e85 again. I think its a great idea for you as long as you have a way to keep an eye on everything while spraying, and the engine is in pretty good shape I say go for it and let us all know how it goes! (maybe a project log to show everyone just how easy it is ?)

 

[FearlessNick]

DSM= Too Fast For NOS!

I agree, having a bigger turbo is the key and saves money from keep on having to fill up the bottle. Plus its bad on the engine.

 

[ramsack]

How is is "bad on the engine"? Just more false statements people read that scare them away right away instead of doing real research and coming to real decisions.

 

[FearlessNick]

How is is "bad on the engine"? Just more false statements people read that scare them away right away instead of doing real research and coming to real decisions.

Wears it out faster... Ive done and seen what NOS does to engines.

 

[ramsack]

Stop spreading false information...please. A boost controller can accomplish the same destruction as nitrous can. Only some people will fully understand that statement.

 

[FearlessNick]

Stop spreading false information...please. A boost controller can accomplish the same destruction as nitrous can. Only some people will fully understand that statement.

I understand what your saying. But I would go with the bigger turbo by far. With turbo, your just looking at loosing your life. I've seen a lot of stuff blow by NOS.

 

[ramsack]

Obviously you don't understand what either does.

 

[1gcrazy]

Because they don't understand it's the same thing as a turbo but more efficient. It adds oxygen to the combustion process, but cools in the incoming air. And because they hear stories from people who think it's a fuel and not an oxidizer who know nothing and blow their engines up because of that lack of knowledge, the people who think a kit is made to just put on a car with no effort required, or any other devices to support it.

YES!
Reason I stay away from nitrous is that after 10 refills(+ the price of your 16g) you could have just bought yourself a LOT bigger turbo.
Turbos are renewable/perpetual, so you don't need to refill your turbo to go have fun.....all the time.

I understand what your saying. But I would go with the bigger turbo by far. With turbo, your just looking at loosing your life. I've seen a lot of stuff blow by NOS.

So FearlessNick, Would you say that you were fearful of nitrous or that you just dont understand?

 

[ramsack]

A nitrous complements big turbos quite nicely, to get the spooling. You don't need a huge shot. Being a liquid it holds a lot more power and goes beyond airflow capabilities, to squeeze even more power out of a setup that can't easily flow more air. It doesn't suffer from inefficiency because it's not a mechanical device, which always has trade-offs, and a single spot where something like a turbo is efficient, rather than a range. No one is saying they are a substitute for a turbo, for the street, and this is because of the cost of filling up the tank. I've always been sick of the people saying nitrous is so dangerous, offering no reasons for it other than the few ghetto riggers or ricers that slapped a kit on their stock car engine and had their engine blow up.

 

[Bud92gsx]

Boost is my nitrous..

 

[nlzn]

I'm too lazy to add a second tune for the addition of Nitrous

 

[Calan]

...offering no reasons for it other than the few ghetto riggers or ricers that slapped a kit on their stock car engine and had their engine blow up.

Which is why I would rarely recommend it to the majority of people on these forums (and no offense intended towards anyone).

My point is...if you have to ask if it's safe and if you should run it, then it probably isn't and you probably shouldn't.

 

[FearlessNick]

So FearlessNick, Would you say that you were fearful of nitrous or that you just dont understand?

Well my dad has done a lot of dragging with his vette with a 454 in it. And he had NOS in it. And one day he was on the strip and he hit the NOS and took his manifold right off the bolts. But then I have been thinking. It really just depends on your build and if you know what your doing and how much of a shot you should throw in.

Boost is my nitrous..

I'm waiting for my million dollar check in the mail to say that...

 

[Maverick4g63]

A nitrous complements big turbos quite nicely, to get the spooling. You don't need a huge shot. Being a liquid it holds a lot more power and goes beyond airflow capabilities, to squeeze even more power out of a setup that can't easily flow more air. It doesn't suffer from inefficiency because it's not a mechanical device, which always has trade-offs, and a single spot where something like a turbo is efficient, rather than a range. No one is saying they are a substitute for a turbo, for the street, and this is because of the cost of filling up the tank. I've always been sick of the people saying nitrous is so dangerous, offering no reasons for it other than the few ghetto riggers or ricers that slapped a kit on their stock car engine and had their engine blow up.

I applaud you sir. Well spoken. Although the ignorant masses will always herd like sheep and never question what hollywood tells them. Just remember kids.. Nawzzz bad!

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[KillerTOFU]

You don't want to use nitrous in DSM's as the floor boards will fall out!!!

rofl hahahahaha its science!

 

[Maverick4g63]

Well my dad has done a lot of dragging with his vette with a 454 in it. And he had NOS in it. And one day he was on the strip and he hit the NOS and took his manifold right off the bolts. But then I have been thinking. It really just depends on your build and if you know what your doing and how much of a shot you should throw in.



I'm waiting for my million dollar check in the mail to say that...

By "NOS" do you mean he has purchased a kit from the company known as NOS, or that he utilizes a nitrous oxide system in general? As a general rule of thumb, guys who use the term "NOS" have zero knowledge of the subject in question.

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[burkgonzo]

By "NOS" do you mean he has purchased a kit from the company known as NOS, or that he utilizes a nitrous oxide system in general? As a general rule of thumb, guys who use the term "NOS" have zero knowledge of the subject in question.

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100% ture statement! Mike Wood CEO of NX defines NOS as the stuff that comes out of your nose.