White Smoke / Car Is Smoking White [Merged 7-9]

[Apeximprt2nr]

Alright guys, well I just finished my 14B install in my 95 GSX. All is well besides some minor oil leaks on the return line and the SS feed line at the filter housing. There was also a VERY minor coolant leak from the front banjo bolt on the turbo. I tightened it a tad and I think i went away. Now the turbo is spooling really late because I think there may be a leak before the turbo.
Now on to the problems.

1. The turbo does not smoke at all besides at WOT sometimes it blows out whiteish grey smoke. I'm trying to think of where it could be burning coolant. It never did this before the turbo install.

2. There was some white smoke the past 2 days at the manifold. I'm thinking its the shitload of PB Blaster that I sprayed all over the car but I'm not sure.

3. There's a smell coming from my engine that I can smell if I pop my hood and it becomes more noticeable when I'm driving and really get on it. It smells like burning plastic sort of, with a mix of burning rubber. The lower heat shield is not on the car because it's a pain to get on and I haven't put it back on because I haven't had time. Nothing is touching anything hot so I 'm confused...The only possible thing is maybe I pout on a new 4 ply exhaust mani. gasket as well as antiseize on most of the bolts and the turbo-mani. bolts.

Any help? Thanks.

 

[BrokenPOS]

most guys take their oil cap and lay it upside down on the oil fill and see if it gets blown off. you can also hook up a cheap boost gauge to it and read the measurements at idle and under boost. i like the second version better. and it depends on what the problem really is. blow by can be caused by any number of things.

 

[sno_boarder4343]

well it is definatly oil being burned off, i did it again and saw the blue tint, and my oil reserves are way way far down. It only really happened when i got it in third gear and started getting above 30 mph. before it was happening at lower rpms but that stoped so i am hopeful its going to stop here too. I put my cap on upside down and it came off but my engine was rattling around a bit so i am not sure if it got shot off or just rattled off.

 

[Tanro]

did you ever resolve this problem?
im having the same exact problem. fresh rebuild. the only thing that isnt the same is it doesnt poor white smoke. that could just be the assembly lube burning off though.

That is what I was thinking as well because it seems to be coming from mostly the head. and the guy that put my head together used a ####ton of the stuff. It was globbed on pretty hard core on the cams. He said it was best to use to much vs. to little on the cams because the first startup would rough on them with virtually no oil in the head. Still haven't diagnosed it. Got tired of ####ing with the car.

Now I am going through the numbers 1x1 before I tear it apart and have a better shop do a rebuild.

 

[spydergstftw]

OK well the weekend started with me taking a 3 hour road trip and after stopping i noticed some steam coming from under my hood and coolant leaking on the ground. broken clamp on the radiator hose. fixed it. 3 hour drive back home and my car is running perfect again. then i drove it to my friends house and parked it for a bit then tried to start it and it wouldnt go over 200-300 rpms then it would shut off. finally after 10 minutes it starts up and runs perfect, i turn it off and on and its working fine so i figured it was a one time thing. well my friend hadnt felt the power of my car since i put in all the aftermarket stuff so i showed him a little taste of it. well after that i heard a clicking noise coming from my car but i couldnt pinpoint the sound so i drove down the highway and noticed white smoke coming from my car. i put on my hazard lights then i lost all power in my car as if it was turned off. i lost power steering but i was able to pull it into an albertsons parking lot. as soon as i parked the whole engine bay went up in huge clouds of white smoke. i opened the hood and white smoke covered the whole parking lot (mind you, this is a parking lot the size of a walmart supercenter). the smoke soon slowed greatly and we towed my car to my friends apartment then this morning we tried to start it and the belts turned but nothing else... needing help asap! its my dd and only car!

 

[Absit]

How bad did it overheat when you were driving? Compression test, sounds head gaskety.

 

[RT-AWD]

hmm, I had a similar issue with the shutting off. I popped a coolant line and it was real bad but, i was only 2 minutes from home so i drove it to my street and the car just stalled... Oh sh*t right? well i let it fully cool off and i pushed it down my street. I went to crank it to get it up my driveway and it was dead (nothing happening). I wiped everything down and disconnected and reconnected the battery and the car slowly cranked up and started.
Now, tell us this, does the car crank like its trying to start? How does your oil look? Like oil or, like a oil milkshake? If you see froth like a milkshake (white bubbles) or the oil gets sticky when you rub it between your fingers you've got a bad headgasket and you need to fix it before you drive it. when you fixed the clamp did you put any water/coolant back in the system? If not you may have driven with no coolant which will blow your headgasket.

 

[TallestHERETIC]

you have a classic sign of a head gasket that has gone bad. all that smoke is from the cylinders burning coolant.

white smoke is a sure sign that the engine is burning coolant. i recommend a multi-layer steel HG update.

 

[RT-AWD]

it's only a sure sign if its coming out of the exhaust, which he doesn't say it is or isn't. The clicking I'm not sure about...take out your ecu see if it fried. If it fried, get one off of here that is from your model and year car.

 

[DSMapprentice]

i had the same problem with my 90 GST, it only smoked out of the exhaust when i got back on the gas after shifting gears, i replaced the HG and it took care of that problem.

 

[4g63jojo]

Long story short.........Your motor is GONE, DONE, DEAD, BAD, BLOWN, TOAST, however you want to put it.

Its obvious what happened here. You were driving and noticed the steam coming from your engine and you fixed the blown clamp or whatever...right? But why did the clamp blow? Did you look at your coolant temp sensor at all during this whole ordeal? does it even work? The reason i ask is because your whole story about what happened is word 4 word description of what happens when you ignore overheating and keep driving.

That noise you started to hear when taking your friend for a ride was either from bearings being ripped to pieces or your piston rings being fried off, more than likely your piston rings fried and you nearly melted the whole engine since now its completely seized up (belts only moving).

Its toast bro, there is no way around it. You dont need a new ECU or whatever you need a whole new engine. Pull your motor and take it apart i will bet anything your pistons are melted to your cylinder walls.

Three words....CATASTROPHIC ENGINE FAILURE. Its done. I am serious when i say your OP is a word 4 word description of overheating your engine until you completely cook it. And thats what happened, you completely cooked your engine from continuing to drive while overheating. Case closed, the end, merry Christmas and happy new year. Chances are your looking at, cracked block, warped head, melted pistons,bent rods and shredded bearings.

 

[jed344]

... He would have had to run very hot to do that much damage. I think you need to take a breather there bud more then likely its just a head gasket.

 

[RT-AWD]

you seriously think a bad ecu will cause his car to fill up a whole parking lot with white smoke?? Thats the most ridiculous, misleading, horrible piece of advice i have ever seen on here and should be removed.

Somebody got a little too key happy here. Next time read the 'Before You Reply' rules and don't bash other users.

The clicking MAY have been the ECU, NOT the smoke. Your Headgasket is probably the culprit.

 

[Fitzi722]

you have a classic sign of a head gasket that has gone bad. all that smoke is from the cylinders burning coolant.

white smoke is a sure sign that the engine is burning coolant. i recommend a multi-layer steel HG update.

+1 on the Head Gasket. I've seen this recently twice (not in a DSM). My friends Yota just did this, and my stepdad's truck before that. Had to help fix both of them .

Sometimes you can check if this is really the case by draining the oil. If it's milky colored mixed with black oil color than it's def the headgasket. The yota was milky, the truck was not. Both were the headgasket though.

Regardless It's probably the headgasket.

 

[Indian]

you seriously think a bad ecu will cause his car to fill up a whole parking lot with white smoke?? Thats the most ridiculous, misleading, horrible piece of advice i have ever seen on here and should be removed.


Long story short.........Your motor is GONE, DONE, DEAD, BAD, BLOWN, TOAST, however you want to put it.

Its obvious what happened here. You were driving and noticed the steam coming from your engine and you fixed the blown clamp or whatever...right? But why did the clamp blow? Did you look at your coolant temp sensor at all during this whole ordeal? does it even work? The reason i ask is because your whole story about what happened is word 4 word description of what happens when you ignore overheating and keep driving.

That noise you started to hear when taking your friend for a ride was either from bearings being ripped to pieces or your piston rings being fried off, more than likely your piston rings fried and you nearly melted the whole engine since now its completely seized up (belts only moving).

Its toast bro, there is no way around it. You dont need a new ECU or whatever you need a whole new engine. Pull your motor and take it apart i will bet anything your pistons are melted to your cylinder walls.

Three words....CATASTROPHIC ENGINE FAILURE. Its done. I am serious when i say your OP is a word 4 word description of overheating your engine until you completely cook it. And thats what happened, you completely cooked your engine from continuing to drive while overheating. Case closed, the end, merry Christmas and happy new year. Chances are your looking at, cracked block, warped head, melted pistons,bent rods and shredded bearings.

You should get a lot more information before you start telling someone they need a new engine. We haven't even gotten past the fact that he overheated.

 

[rlacasse1]

you seriously think a bad ecu will cause his car to fill up a whole parking lot with white smoke?? Thats the most ridiculous, misleading, horrible piece of advice i have ever seen on here and should be removed.


Long story short.........Your motor is GONE, DONE, DEAD, BAD, BLOWN, TOAST, however you want to put it.

Its obvious what happened here. You were driving and noticed the steam coming from your engine and you fixed the blown clamp or whatever...right? But why did the clamp blow? Did you look at your coolant temp sensor at all during this whole ordeal? does it even work? The reason i ask is because your whole story about what happened is word 4 word description of what happens when you ignore overheating and keep driving.

That noise you started to hear when taking your friend for a ride was either from bearings being ripped to pieces or your piston rings being fried off, more than likely your piston rings fried and you nearly melted the whole engine since now its completely seized up (belts only moving).

Its toast bro, there is no way around it. You dont need a new ECU or whatever you need a whole new engine. Pull your motor and take it apart i will bet anything your pistons are melted to your cylinder walls.

Three words....CATASTROPHIC ENGINE FAILURE. Its done. I am serious when i say your OP is a word 4 word description of overheating your engine until you completely cook it. And thats what happened, you completely cooked your engine from continuing to drive while overheating. Case closed, the end, merry Christmas and happy new year. Chances are your looking at, cracked block, warped head, melted pistons,bent rods and shredded bearings.

Explain how the belts would move if the engine is "completely seized up". I don't know if you realize this, but the belts are driven by the crankshaft, which if it was seized up, would not move.

 

[4g63jojo]

Explain how the belts would move if the engine is "completely seized up". I don't know if you realize this, but the belts are driven by the crankshaft, which if it was seized up, would not move.

yea your 100% right, my bad, my bad

But every 1 else!??!?!?!?! ............. his story is exactly what would happen if you ignored your temp gauge and kept driving ultimately ending in a WHOLE parking lot filled with smoke , and a blown head gasket will not fill up the whole parking lot with white smoke, with that amount of smoke , there was MASSIVE amounts of coolant being burnt in the cylinders and the smoke was not coming from the exhaust and the car was not running....... I mean think about it every 1 ....... if the car DIED and he parked the car "" NOT RUNNING"" in a parking lot then his ENTIRE ENGINE BAY goes up in smoke filling the whole parking lot........that means the cylinders were HOT ENOUGH to burn massive amounts of coolant on contact.

Normally with a blown head gasket with your engine running, coolant seeps into the cylinder and the coolant is burnt with the A/F mixture giving you the white smoke out the exhaust. Which he did say happened while he was driving down the highway, so we do know he did blow his head gasket at that point, but THEN he said the car shut off and he coasted to the parking lot and then his engine bay went up in white smoke and filled the parking lot. OK........ the engine is not running at this point so there is no spark or fuel to initiate "combustion" and normally "combustion" is the only thing hot enough in the engine to turn coolant into white smoke, but there is NOO combustion since ENGINE IS NOT RUNNING !!! that means there is something ELSE hot enough to burn coolant!!! what could that be?????.........the overheated cylinder walls of course............. and if the cylinders were hot enough to burn coolant on contact that means he .....what??? ........OVERHEEEEEATED....... and enough smoke to fill a whole parking lot is more than what a head gasket will leak and if its smoking from the engine bay not the exhaust that means the engine is warped really bad or cracked, or in this case it sounds like it may be both.

 

[1gcrazy]

So here we go, It's almost -10 here and 32ish in Texas, Did you even take where he lived into account? Lets say no.... Do you follow so far? Good. So can you think of anything else on the planet that would FILL a super walmart parking lot full of smoke? ....no apocalypse doesn't count. Nothing? Me either. So then he's over exaggerating. GREAT. So there was a lot of smoke with the temperature of the earth at oooh... 40 degrees. ... So since the earth isn't melting that means there was a lot of hot water hitting the cold ass earth. Please spell evaporation for me. Thanks.
Since it wont start its a head gasket.
OP start paying attention to your gauges.

Btw, if a cylinder is in the right spot then your super heated spontaneous combustion of coolant can't escape the cylinder.... wrap your mind around that one Mr. Feeble.

 

[4g63jojo]

I'm sorry can somebody ban this guy for a few days so he learns his lesson? I am afraid so say but uh.... yeah. You are stupid.
howstuffworks.com: goto it. Use it. elearn it. #### GOOGLE it!

So here we go, It's almost -10 here and 32ish in Texas, Did you even take where he lived into account? Lets say no.... Do you follow so far? Good. So can you think of anything else on the planet that would FILL a super walmart parking lot full of smoke? ....no apocalypse doesn't count. Nothing? Me either. So then he's over exaggerating. GREAT. So there was a lot of smoke with the temperature of the earth at oooh... 40 degrees. ... So since the earth isn't melting that means there was a lot of hot water hitting the cold ass earth. Please spell evaporation for me. Thanks.
Since it wont start its a head gasket.
OP start paying attention to your gauges.

Btw, if a cylinder is in the right spot then your super heated spontaneous combustion of coolant can't escape the cylinder.... wrap your mind around that one Mr. Feeble.

i dont need how stuff works or google to understand what goes on inside an engine......


and yes i can think of something that fills up a parking lot with smoke.........""the OP's engine"

and since when does a cold ground make hot water evaporate???? water evaporates when it gets hot not when hot water gets cold you idiot........




and how can you say that the OP was exaggerating,???? he specifically said and made sure we know that it was enough smoke to fill a huge parking lot??? so he clearly was not exaggerating


""since it dont start its headgasket""" are you serious??? a car CAN start with a bad head gasket
""oh your car wont start..................head gasket """" L O L



you say this """" if a cylinder is in the right spot then your super heated spontaneous combustion of coolant can't escape the cylinder.... wrap your mind around that one Mr. Feeble"""""""


a cylinder is always in the same spot, its the piston that moves !?!!?!? plus it can escape the cylinder if the cylinder is cracked or its warped !?!?!?!?!? which it OBVIOUSLY did since there was a huge cloud of white smoke coming out from under his hood, which is exactly the point i am trying to make.


and read what i said, i said nothing about "spontaneous combustion" at all, "combustion" is what happens when your spark plug fires and is the only thing hot enough in an engine to burn coolant, since his engine was not running, there is no "combustion" so there is something else that is hot enough to burn coolant and there shouldn't be

 

[1gcrazy]

Jesus H. My tolerance for dipshits when I'm drunk is very low. I'm sorry I didn't break that down into more specific words you could understand Jojo.

Here's how it goes kiddo, If you overheat an engine for so long then the cylinder head warps. Then without compression your car will not run. End of story there's no super heated cylinders that heat MASSIVE amounts of coolant when the engine isn't running. The reason there is a shit ton of smoke, about the size of 1/4 of a super walmart parking lot is because its ####ing cold as shit out. When its cold as shit out the usual plume of smoke able to be scene is multiplied and were not even going to get into why that is.

i dont need how stuff works or google to understand what goes on inside an engine......

yes you do.

and yes i can think of something that fills up a parking lot with smoke.........""the OP's engine"

Engines don't fly by themselves as far as I knew... So it must have been something else...

and since when does a cold ground make hot water evaporate???? water evaporates when it gets hot not when hot water gets cold you idiot........

I'm not even sure how to explain this to you. Even if I tried you wouldn't get it.

and how can you say that the OP was exaggerating,???? he specifically said and made sure we know that it was enough smoke to fill a huge parking lot??? so he clearly was not exaggerating

Oh right. Good observation.

""since it dont start its headgasket""" are you serious??? a car CAN start with a bad head gasket
""oh your car wont start..................head gasket """" L O L

If you overheat a car too much yes, thats the usual diagnosis. Please oh PLEASE prove me wrong on this one. I love entertainment. Also, please don't quote me using that horrible grammar.

a cylinder is always in the same spot, its the piston that moves !?!!?!? plus it can escape the cylinder if the cylinder is cracked or its warped !?!?!?!?!? which it OBVIOUSLY did since there was a huge cloud of white smoke coming out from under his hood, which is exactly the point i am trying to make.

First, I know what a piston is called in relation to the cylinder. Trust me. http://www.dynoman.net/images/engine/piston/customPiston1.jpg BUT, because I hate you analytical ####s can you click on the link above and tell me what SHAPE that is? The cloud of white smoke is from the overflow most likely, It could also come from a burst hose. I've never seen a head gasket so bad that its shooting steam from between the head and block BUT, show me a picture. I'm down for learnin.

and read what i said, i said nothing about "spontaneous combustion" at all, "combustion" is what happens when your spark plug fires and is the only thing hot enough in an engine to burn coolant, since his engine was not running, there is no "combustion" so there is something else that is hot enough to burn coolant and there shouldn't be

You're right, spontaneous combustion was my word I used to exaggerate your dumb-ass theory.
Now, on to the analytical part: A spark plug can't ignite coolant... Its the fuel and air that actually burn first then take the coolant with it. And after reading the second part of that sentence. I'll ensure you know you are retarded and leave it at that. Good luck on working on your car.

 

[Jun3bug]

I wonder if the check engine light came on after the hose was fixed? Def. ran out of coolant.. MLS Head gasket ftw!

 

[JasonStern]

MLS Head gasket ftw!

you'd need to deck both the block and the head to run a MLS head gasket. if you aren't making a ton of power and don't want to go to the trouble/expense of pulling the block (plus the extra time involved since this is your daily driver), you might want to run a regular Mitsubishi headgasket.

 

[AlaskanDsm]

Think we all need to fix our own "headgaskets" and help the OP here. Thank you jojo for your input. I believe that this to be a worse case scenario but is still a possibility. I agree with Absit and Fitzi, Do a compression test and see what the oil looks like on the dip stick. At the very least, you most likely have a blown headgasket. I would also check the ECU to make sure there isn't any damage to the drivers and caps. One step at a time and everything will be alright.

 

[snowborder714]

Warnings handed out. Everyone in here needs to stop flaming, use proper spelling, and keep on topic. If you see something someone else posted that you believe is incorrect, do a bit of research and post back with hard evidence.

 

[spydergstftw]

Long story short.........Your motor is GONE, DONE, DEAD, BAD, BLOWN, TOAST, however you want to put it.

Its obvious what happened here. You were driving and noticed the steam coming from your engine and you fixed the blown clamp or whatever...right? But why did the clamp blow? Did you look at your coolant temp sensor at all during this whole ordeal? does it even work? The reason i ask is because your whole story about what happened is word 4 word description of what happens when you ignore overheating and keep driving.

That noise you started to hear when taking your friend for a ride was either from bearings being ripped to pieces or your piston rings being fried off, more than likely your piston rings fried and you nearly melted the whole engine since now its completely seized up (belts only moving).

Its toast bro, there is no way around it. You dont need a new ECU or whatever you need a whole new engine. Pull your motor and take it apart i will bet anything your pistons are melted to your cylinder walls.

Three words....CATASTROPHIC ENGINE FAILURE. Its done. I am serious when i say your OP is a word 4 word description of overheating your engine until you completely cook it. And thats what happened, you completely cooked your engine from continuing to drive while overheating. Case closed, the end, merry Christmas and happy new year. Chances are your looking at, cracked block, warped head, melted pistons,bent rods and shredded bearings.

yeah piston rings fried!!! this is resolved now because i had time to work on it and found that out. thank you im now on a hunt for a new motor blah! reply to my new thread if you can give me any insite

 

[4g63jojo]

yeah piston rings fried!!! this is resolved now because i had time to work on it and found that out. thank you im now on a hunt for a new motor blah! reply to my new thread if you can give me any insite

was there any other damage to the engine? warped head/block, cracked anything? If the only damage is the rings then you may be able to rebuild.