Which Turbo Should I Get [merged] What Turbo

[Ludachris]

Which turbo will be sufficient for consistent 11 second times? I've recently decided on a big 16g, but will that be big enough to run 11s with supporting mods and decent tuning? Remember, this is for a budget street car, so any one purchase over $1k is tough. A big 16g will run about $700-900, which is about $300-400 less than the larger alternatives.

Of course, I'll need lots of practice to run these times, but, I just want to make sure that it's possible before the money is spent.

 

[TheNewGuy98]

ok... so i've thought about it and read some posts on other forums, and im looking to hit aroung the 400-425 range. my car is FWD so ive read that a larger turbo is a good idea cause fast spooling will only have me buying new tires alot. like i said befor money isnt really an issue if its buying me somthing really good, but if the spending the extra money will be a wast, then thats different as long as its not some no name brand. ive ordered a full apexi N1 exhaust and GT down pipe. upper and lower pipeing with big FMIC. i figured that would be a good start.
i also have a DSMlink on the way. with couple other electronics, and all the guages(boost oil pres. ext.)

from there im not sure what else i should get as far a turbo, manafold, internals and all

 

[jibberishballr]

Well if you are putting that much power down id get some slicks. Im guessing this isnt your daily driver. And im guessing you mean 400 to the wheels? Either way without slicks, LSD, and some other stuff traction is gonna be a huge problem. What are your goals? I mean are you using this for track or street? If track a bigger turbo is the way to go but i still wouldnt go too big unless you plan on getting a lot of traction mods. If 400 is your goal im still gonna say 50 trim but just my opinon. Oh and tuning will be much easier with the DSMlink so youll have no problem with that. Im just thinking you are gonna get frustrated with all this power and no traction. Trust me even in my Evo 16g traction is a problem.

Also i wanted to say that the spool up is not gonna make a huge difference because i mean when are you driving under 4k rpms especially when racing? Dont let the idea of a bigger turbo is gonna make it easier on your tires. More power is gonna be harder on your tires anyway you look at it.

I do like how youve started with the exhaust and fmic. Its always good to start with the supporting mods. Next id start doing some internals if you are serious about putting that much power down, then decide which turbo, and get your injectors, walbro 255, and something to help with traction.

Good luck

 

[bob11187]

I'm going to replace the ol 14b (even though it is a great turbo) for something a little bigger. My goals are to get my car into the mid to low 12 second range (with supporting mods of course). I am debating between the mitsu 18g-5h from forced performance, the garrett t04b 50 trim from dsmparts.com or the Model 5031E from dejon. which turbo will be best for what i want to accomplish, this will be on a daily driver so it will be going on pump gas. if i go with the garrett or the 5031 will i need to do a external wastegate setup or can i get away with a intenal setup? Your replys are appreciated.

 

[Travi2506]

You can get into the 12's with a 16g and the right supporting mods. It may be a little harder than with a 50 trim but it all depends on what you want to do. If you're only worried about 12's then a 50 trim should make things a little easier, but if you like driving on the street and track then in my opinion a smaller, more responsive turbo is more fun.

 

[turbo2g111]

+1 for the 16g. Just as long as you support it well, you should be fine getting into 12's. If you really want, you can even port it and clip it. Like Travi2506 said, it'll be much more responsive, in case you decide to do something like auto x just for fun sometime.

 

[garrett21]

I would say go with a evo 3 16G from MHI. It is a great turbo for street/track driving and as everyone above said you will need some supporting mods, but it will get you into the
12's and 11.9's on race gas. Just look at the Bragging Rights section to see what a evo III / 16G's can do. Good Luck!

 

[fourreGsixty3]

You can get into that range on the 14B. The 16G will make it a little easier to do. Since you mentioned the 18g, I would say skip that, and pay the same amount for a TD06H 20g, that will easily get you to see low 12s with supporting mods, tuning device, a good tune, and seat time. Or the BB 50 trim varients are nice turbo's, spool almost as quick as 16Gs, but can hold more boost to redline unlike the 16Gs that drop off considerable before redline.

Dustin

 

[Boost Freak 3]

I would recomend the bastard 20g which is a 16g housing with a 20g wheel spools great and quick. Looks like a 16g but can get you into the mid 11 to low 12s. Good sleeper affect. Slow boy sells it.

 

[bob11187]

what could i expect from the 18g on pump? as it is only $640 at forcedperformance.com which is only slightly more than a decked out 16g and it says it will flow 600 cfm. it seems like a good comprimise between the 16g and 20g/50trim.

 

[98gst14b]

16g16g16g16g16g!!!!!
turbochargers.com or slowboyracing.com sells 16gs for around 450-500$ Or you can buy a e3gt turbo thats prted already and 1 yr warrenty for like 450. I got the e3gt turbo and love it.

 

[Boost Freak 3]

I would say you could get in the upper 300 i have a friend thats making 300 on pump gas on a small 16g but hes front wheel drive.

 

[Smokin80]

IM making around 300awhp with s16g and water injection. I love this turbo and i ran 12.8 with a 3200lb 2g. All my mods are in my profile. 12's on a 16g are not too hard and i get 30mpg on the highway. I want a bigger turbo now but a 16g is super nice for a daily driver.
evo 3's are capable of low 12's without too much trouble. Take a look at my 12.803 timeslip. The other car that ran 12.2 or 12.3 is a 1g awd with an evo 16g and water injection.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

I would skip the 18g, and spend a little more, and get a bastard 20g or 50 Trim, those will hold more boost till redline, and you have a higher effectiency range. These can push out 25psi like nothing.

Dustin

 

[Boost Freak 3]

Thats a second vote for the bastard 20g its your best bet for the money

 

[bob11187]

assuming i do go with the bastard what would the difference between the td06h and 5h housings be? Also is it worth the 120 for the porting and Most Importantly can i get by with the 34mm internal wastegate?

 

[blaise2gst]

you can get a brand new 50 trim for a good bit cheaper then the bastard 16/20g
50 trim 699$ bastard ,16/20g is 800$ something. If your going for the cheap but easy to make power route id get a 50 trim or the bullseye v trim. There both a good price and will make good street power.. the big 16g has proven itself time and time again though..

 

[blackbyrd]

and i get 30mpg on the highway.

Do you take the turbo off first?
haha

16g will get you there for about 450-500ish for the turbo.
If you want to push a little more down the road, I'd look into a BB 50trim, from 700-900.

 

[sly mantis]

Hi

Well im planning on building up a 90 talon 6-bolt engine, and my goal is 300-350 hp at the crank.
I plan on getting all the fuel supporting mods such as 550cc injectors, safc, 2g maf, fuel pump and datalogger to support this.
Im just wondering what turbocharger i should get to support this.
From what i understand the 14b that's stock will only handle up to maybe 300 hp. Is this correct or can they handle more?
And reading around the 16g sounds like a good choice, since i dont want a huge turbo but rather something that will still spool quickly and give me power low down.

But ive noticed that there's alot of different types of 16g turbos which is confusing me (small, big, evo 3). so if someone could help clear this up for me i would appreciate it.

Thanks

 

[siceclipse]

get a big16g or the EvoIII16g

thats it...

 

[xrobbx03]

I would say go with the Big16g. Thats what I am upgrading to also.

 

[DSMunknown]

Let's not start one of these again. Do a search if you've got questions (and you will). Also look at the Upgrade Path guide for the 1Gs found below:



http://www.dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=1gtupgrades

 

[fwdeclipse]

Go for the evo316g it has fast spool and a good top end for a small guy.You are going to need more like 650s to max this baby out.You will be happy with this choice.If you have the option try and get dsmlink as its easier to tune than a safc with 650s.Or you could get a eprom ecu and get it socketed and have jeff at dsmchips set you up with custom chip.

 

[sly mantis]

im not looking to make huge 400+ numbers, i really only want 300-350 hp at the CRANK.
from what i understand 550cc are more than enough for that, and i know the the evo3 can easily make the numbers i want and more but if a small 16g can make those numbers then why bother buying a big one, i really dont want more power than that.

That may sound weird but 300-350hp is good enough for me.

 

[92BoostedDSM]

ok so im getting ready to order a new bigger turbo and i wan wondering which one i should get. I want to be bolt on for my 2G. Also something that would work for my hard pipes right now with my stock intercooler till i could get a front mount kit. This would be run at low boost till i oculd get a bigger fuel pump,afpr, injectors and the front mount. Im considering maybe something like a 50 trim or the 20g. Also what BOV's mount right up with a 1g flange?

 

[B33FST3W]

We need more info, what are your goals? How much do you consider to be high boost (like 20psi or 40psi)? Is all you plan on doing to this car injectors/fuel pump/FPR or do you plan on upgrading the internals later? Do you plan on draging the car, autoX, or just a street car?