Which Turbo Should I Get [merged] What Turbo

[Ludachris]

Which turbo will be sufficient for consistent 11 second times? I've recently decided on a big 16g, but will that be big enough to run 11s with supporting mods and decent tuning? Remember, this is for a budget street car, so any one purchase over $1k is tough. A big 16g will run about $700-900, which is about $300-400 less than the larger alternatives.

Of course, I'll need lots of practice to run these times, but, I just want to make sure that it's possible before the money is spent.

 

[9D7GST05]

It would just be a weekend night car . Thanks for the input. what would you say that power would lay down? 350 at least i hope on 20-22 psi?

 

[9D7GST05]

Also would the i have to change anything in the head like springs or will they bolt right in?

 

[GVR4592]

http://linux.forcedperformance.net/...de=FP&Product_Code=FPCamInt&Category_Code=DSM

 

[Boosted98gsx]

FP cams definately, idle like stock and perform as good if not better than the 272's.

 

[9D7GST05]

Cool. Thanks again, need to get link but this will be enough for now.

 

[buddielee5]

i am wanting to up grade my turbo from my 16g, and wanting the capabilities to make 500+ hp. I also want a turbo that bolts up to the stock dsm manifold. I am thinking of maybe between a agp rs60 turbo or else a hybrid green turbo? so What do you guys think? i wanted to get a garrett t3 60-1 turbo but by my understandings you need another exhaust manifold is this correct? Thanks. -Chad

 

[98evoIIIpwr]

Check out the FP30 series turbos at www.forcedperformance.com

 

[98evoIIIpwr]

i am wanting to up grade my turbo from my 16g, and wanting the capabilities to make 500+ hp. I also want a turbo that bolts up to the stock dsm manifold. I am thinking of maybe between a agp rs60 turbo or else a hybrid green turbo? so What do you guys think? i wanted to get a garrett t3 60-1 turbo but by my understandings you need another exhaust manifold is this correct? Thanks. -Chad

Yes you would need to get a new manifold. The forced performance turbos offer the best flow for a DSM manifold. Do some research and Im sure you will find that these are your best choice in turbos

 

[fourreGsixty3]

Yes, check out the FPs, or call SBR, and talk with them about what you are looking for, and what you want, they can put some things into perspective, and set up something that will be better then what you could want, and they can have turbo's custom flanges put on so you can attach ___ turbo to a DSM mani, and O2 housing.
Hope that helps

Dustin

 

[SBR Chris]

i am wanting to up grade my turbo from my 16g, and wanting the capabilities to make 500+ hp. I also want a turbo that bolts up to the stock dsm manifold. I am thinking of maybe between a agp rs60 turbo or else a hybrid green turbo? so What do you guys think? i wanted to get a garrett t3 60-1 turbo but by my understandings you need another exhaust manifold is this correct? Thanks. -Chad

Chad,

You can get a 60-1 in a DSM Housing. There is no problem with that at all. Like Dustin said, Give me a call, I'll be glad to discuss some options with you.

 

[ISUJakey]

Check out the FP30 series turbos at www.forcedperformance.com

Without question, ^^^^^^.

 

[joeracer321]

We also carry about every combination you could want in a DSM housing. If you would like to discuss some combinations please give me a call or shoot me an email.

 

[TheNewGuy98]

im looking to buy a good turbo kit that will have decent spool. i havent really set a goal for how much HP i want to get out of my car but i want it to be fast. i dont really have any mods yet but moneys not an issue and i will be buying any and all supporting mods with what ever i get.. i was look ing at the greddy TDo5 18g kit but wasnt sure if it is any good or not. ive look in the forms and cant find anything on this kit so any help would be great..

and one more Q? i have a FMIC on order so i will have that before anything else.. would it be pointless to put it on with the stock turbo, or would i get any performance gain out of it?

 

[2fastTSi]

i havent really set a goal for how much HP i want to get out of my car but i want it to be fast

There's a lot that goes into proper turbo selection, because turbos should be matched to the engine, not vice versa.

The best thing to do is to try and figure how much horsepower you want and what the car will be used for. For example, a turbo well suited for AutoX isn't necessarily a good turbo for drag racing . Then figure what your max RPM is gonna be (this is where the autox and drag analogy comes in) and how much boost you want to run.

 

[Wildeclipse2000]

The best streetable fast spooling turbo out there right now is the EvoIII 16g.

You can make all kinds of power without sacrificing spool time. I would stay away from the Greddy 18G as you will be paying for a name with that turbo. The MHI EVOIII 16G is going to be much cheaper, and have almost the same performance, with less lag.

I would however agree with the above statement that you need to give us a little more info on the goals of the car.

If you seach you can find all kind of different setups for different styles of driving and genres of racing.

 

[Shane2GSX]

The first thing you need to do is figure out what you want out of your car. What do you want to use it for? What do you want to accomplish? Do you want to drag or auto x? Do you want this on pump or race gas? What kind of time do you want? Once you figure these things out, you can then find an appropriate horsepower number you want to achieve to accomplish those goals. From there, you can do some research, make a plan and layout what parts you'll need to get you there, including your turbo. This will help keep you from buying things two or three times, thus wasting your time and money.

Measure twice, cut once..

 

[Shane2GSX]

The best streetable fast spooling turbo out there right now is the EvoIII 16g.

I disagree. A dual ball-bearing 50 trim will push much more air, more efficiently, and the spool is very comparable.

 

[fourreGsixty3]

Shane I agree with you BB 50 Trims are very quick spooling, and they can hold boost much better to redline then the 16G, and they can offer a higher psi setting then the 16G can. I would how ever skip the 18G, and go with a 20G with a TD 06 housing instead of the smaller TD05 housing. But like the other said we need an idea of what you want, if you want a turbo for drag, but to be fun and quick on the street with pump gas, a BB 50 Trim would be perfect. If you just want to stay level 1 mods, with a little better the stock boost, but wont be going past 20psi then a 16G would be good, if you want to do some AutoX on the weekends, I would say a 20g TD06, and have it clipped a few *s. Sorry I cant be more specific but with such a broad question you will get braod awnsers, we need a little more info to give specific advise.

Dustin

 

[brute]

I suggest NEVER clipping wheels. But that's just me personally. If you want it to spool later and have more power potential, get a larger wheel/housing.

 

[Snobordin8]

and one more Q? i have a FMIC on order so i will have that before anything else.. would it be pointless to put it on with the stock turbo, or would i get any performance gain out of it?

Adding a FMIC to the stock turbo isn't going to do much other than save you time putting it on later. The turbo may spool up just a bit later and it might add a few HP, but you won't see any big gains from putting it on.

Here are a couple threads about it:
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170646&highlight=fmic+t25
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151971&highlight=fmic+t25

 

[fourreGsixty3]

I have heard some good things about clipping the wheels. If you dont want to go past the current turbo, but what to hold more boost till redline, then clipping is good, and its cheaper, then a new turbo, but I would only say 5*s or so with the clipping nothing too much, but just enough.

Dustin

 

[MyBeatGSX]

I suggest NEVER clipping wheels. But that's just me personally. If you want it to spool later and have more power potential, get a larger wheel/housing.

ditto

SCC actually did a big article awhile back on how bad clipping is and how important turbine efficiency is.

I disagree. A dual ball-bearing 50 trim will push much more air, more efficiently, and the spool is very comparable.

big ditto

 

[jibberishballr]

im looking to buy a good turbo kit that will have decent spool. i havent really set a goal for how much HP i want to get out of my car but i want it to be fast. i dont really have any mods yet but moneys not an issue and i will be buying any and all supporting mods with what ever i get.. i was look ing at the greddy TDo5 18g kit but wasnt sure if it is any good or not. ive look in the forms and cant find anything on this kit so any help would be great..

and one more Q? i have a FMIC on order so i will have that before anything else.. would it be pointless to put it on with the stock turbo, or would i get any performance gain out of it?

1. Evo III 16g if you are fine with high 12's (faster id say go with a 50 trim)
2. Dont buy the 18g
3.Make sure you know your goals or else you're gonna be back here wanting a bigger turbo so if you really want to compete with some fast cars just go to the 50 trim. Im not saying the Evo III is slow by any means but the 50 trim is faster. I enjoy my Evo III though because of the quick spool up. With proper supporting mods its a monster.
4. You can get a fmic but you wont need it until you have a bigger turbo. Its hard to heatsoak on the T to small.
5. Good luck!

 

[NickGT20]

You should get all your supporting mods in order. 3" turbo back exhaust, Air Intake, Fuel Pump, FPR, Then you'll be used to modding and know what you want to do. A 16g is a good all arround turbo but if you want some serious numbers your going to need to go with a 50 trim or bigger. I dont recomend the 18g kit or even and 18g at all. I'd go 16g, 50 trim, 60-1 in that order. The ball bearing turbos will spool faster but cost a lot more. You'll also want a dsm link to tune with.

 

[Samzer]

Yeah clipping isnt worth it.