Which clutch [Merged 3-9] what clutch best

[rayden]

ok i am going to get a new clutch for my car. i was wandering which one i should go with. i was thinking of the act 2100. Dont think i want the 2600 because it is a daily driven car and will only go to the track a couple times a year. if there are some other brands you all would suggest let me know. i want a good streetable clutch for a cheap budget.

 

[mnetwork]

No one has pointed out that Ebay link didn't picture the dsm fidanza flywheel, also there was no friction plate in that pic either

the fidanza also has a scattered bolt pattern for the friction plate.


I am going to be throwing one on my car(fidanza flywheel and fidanza clutch kit carbon kevlar I am doing around 300hp to, which is cheaper than the ACT 2100 clutch kit) in a week or 2, with fidanza carbon clutch. I will post back how it feels. I think people are over rating the 2lb difference before pressure plate and clutch disc is attached.

I just like be different with stuff, because if every one on the road is buying act I will buy something else. I like to be different. Plus a lot of people bad rap things with out trying them, when sometimes they work better for others.

Thtat's what I did this time. I bought the SBR Clutch kit because they make good stuff and then i bought the ACT flywheel. I think it should be a good combo, I'll let everyone know.

 

[halik008]

Here is my $0.02.

People who say fidanza flywheels are pain, bad for DD'ing, auto-x only are full of crap. My GSX in the profile is a street car and i drive it to work in Detroit Metro commute without a problem. I have driven several other DSMs with Fidanzas and those were no problem to control either.

As for clutches:

ACT 2100- good clutch for midly modified DSMs. Pedal pressure is higher then stock, but i didn't mind that much.

ACT 2600- Heavy pedal feel plus stay away from 2600 street disks since they pop hub springs waaaay too often. Know several people who had thier ACT 2600's fail on them due to popped spring, there is also a poll here on t00ners about it. ACT will NOT replace you disk if your clutch fail after the 90 days warranty. Flywheels have also been ruined thanks to those springs.

SBR- Most people i talked to don't like SBR clutches and say don't last.

Spec- that is what i am running right now. Stage 3 spung 6-puck. So far i'm satisfied. Stock pedal feel, easy to engage, grabby as hell.

 

[ALLBoostAWD]

. A lightened flywheel is a good idea no matter what. Less mass to have to spin=more power.

Not true...

A lightened flywheel will give you low end power since you can move the car out of the hole quicker, but you will loose top end power since you are removing that weight. Depending on what your setup is and what you would rather have, low end or top end.

 

[wret]

People who say fidanza flywheels are pain, bad for DD'ing, auto-x only are full of crap.

Put me down in your full-of-crap column. Launching with with a light-weight flywheel will forever be more technical than with stock. Yes you get accustomed to it and you get better at it, but doesn't change the fact that you are starting with less momentum.

 

[DSMunknown]

my personal preference would be the Clutchmasters FX100 kit:

FX100 clutch:
http://www.clutchmasters.com/shop/?...39&FromYear=1993&MakeModelID=27904&AppID=5312

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17543&cat=637&page=1

Clutchmasters lightened flywheel:

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17573&cat=642&page=1

you could even go with a Stage 2 kit (the FX200):
http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17544&cat=638&page=1

http://www.clutchmasters.com/shop/?...39&FromYear=1993&MakeModelID=27904&AppID=5313

 

[halik008]

Put me down in your full-of-crap column. Launching with with a light-weight flywheel will forever be more technical than with stock. Yes you get accustomed to it and you get better at it, but doesn't change the fact that you are starting with less momentum.

Well you missed my point. I'm getting at people who say "don't buy fidanza because......, buy........ instead"

Yes of course it will be harder to launch and will need getting you to, but so will drving/launching heavy clutch w/ tight engagement travel yet people don't say "don't buy it, buy stock"

 

[wret]

Well you missed my point. I'm getting at people who say "don't buy fidanza because......, buy........ instead"

Yes of course it will be harder to launch and will need getting you to, but so will drving/launching heavy clutch w/ tight engagement travel yet people don't say "don't buy it, buy stock"

Understood. Like many "upgrades" there are advantages and disadvantages. I try not to "sell" anyone on any particular part or steer them away, just give objective comments from personal experience.

To the original poster: The ACT 2100 and 2600 are the most popular dsm clutch upgrades and have an established track record. Not being one to follow the crowd, I am using a Spec 2+ and I am very happy with the light feel, smooth engagement and holding power. I am not as happy with the Fidanza flywheel I installed at the same time. If I was to do it again, I would probably go light but not that light.

 

[kraka]

Spec- that is what i am running right now. Stage 3 spung 6-puck. So far i'm satisfied. Stock pedal feel, easy to engage, grabby as hell.

Where do you find those? When the SpeedFactor was around, I was going to buy the Spec stage 2 or 3 from them...But then they went out of business, and I don't know where to find those clutches...

Sure ACT's are proven, but Im tired of hearing the stories and seeing the pictures of the clutches torn into pieces...The quality just isnt there, its just not reliable enough for me...

Right now, Im torn between the Centerforce DFC, the Spec clutches or the Exedy stage 2...

Im going for 300whp also....So, any info on finding those spec's would be nice...They are great clutches

 

[oldman]

Put me down in your full-of-crap column.

Me too. According to Jon @ TRE, whom I just got off the phone with, aluminum flywheels such as Fidanza are not recommended for high power AWD drag cars because they tend to warp under high power AWD launches, this slight change in flywheel spec/height will cause engagement problems.

 

[halik008]

Where do you find those? When the SpeedFactor was around, I was going to buy the Spec stage 2 or 3 from them...But then they went out of business, and I don't know where to find those clutches...

Sure ACT's are proven, but Im tired of hearing the stories and seeing the pictures of the clutches torn into pieces...The quality just isnt there, its just not reliable enough for me...

Right now, Im torn between the Centerforce DFC, the Spec clutches or the Exedy stage 2...

Im going for 300whp also....So, any info on finding those spec's would be nice...They are great clutches

Titan Motorsport

 

[halik008]

Me too. According to Jon @ TRE, whom I just got off the phone with, aluminum flywheels such as Fidanza are not recommended for high power AWD drag cars because they tend to warp under high power AWD launches, this slight change in flywheel spec/height will cause engagement problems.

Define "high power"

 

[oldman]

Define "high power"

Some where around 350 tq.

 

[Verticaljump1]

The car is going to be launched pretty hard a few times a month. I'm definately going to weld the center diff I don't really mind the consequences. I can handle puck on the street, I just don't know if I want to risk launching with a 2900/puck combo because I don't want to bust the tranny or transfercase. I'm going to take it to the track about twice a month, and it will only be driven hard on the street a few times a month. I've got a daily driver this will just be the fun car. I'm considering downgrading to a gt30r for the hell of it and make a good 500whp, but I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the help.

 

[1SloColt]

After installing and driving a twin disk last week I personally think its worth the money spent. I would put money on it that your 60' times will instantly decrease, the trans will shift better, even if its only slightly, and the no lift-to-shift that you'll have to run should be easier on the synchros and help ETs. The only downfall I see is that if you do any city driving, like bumper to bumper traffic, then its gonna suck. In terms of power holding capability and drag racing improvement, the twin disk is far superior than an ACT setup.

 

[TSIfreek]

The car is going to be launched pretty hard a few times a month. I'm definately going to weld the center diff I don't really mind the consequences. I can handle puck on the street, I just don't know if I want to risk launching with a 2900/puck combo because I don't want to bust the tranny or transfercase. I'm going to take it to the track about twice a month, and it will only be driven hard on the street a few times a month. I've got a daily driver this will just be the fun car. I'm considering downgrading to a gt30r for the hell of it and make a good 500whp, but I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the help.

You dont mind braking trany parts/axles?? Go with a 4 spider diff on the street.

 

[Verticaljump1]

I just bought a Spec Stage 4 clutch, thanks for the help guys.

 

[larsrya8]

I just bought a Spec Stage 4 clutch, thanks for the help guys.

Post an update to let us know how that works out after you break it in.

 

[Turbocharged]

For the cost of a built transmission and a twin disc clutch, why don't you just get a dogbox?

http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/transmissions/dsm.htm

An extra plus is that you can choose your own gear ratio, which is AWSOME when doing a 2.4L swap.

 

[4g63t]

I Just installed a 20g on my car and I need a betar clutch. I have a ebay special 6 puck xtd. The clutch worked fine for the money but, its rough, it clatters and has a LOUD throw out berring. Anywho it slips after I launch it, it can not catch up with the engine. SO read my profile for mods and I have a spending limit to of 350$. What would be the most streatabul/can take the abuse at the track clutch for my money. I am looking for a kit aswell. thank you all!

 

[SexperT]

for Daily driving activities, the best i've seen, easy on the pedal and its holds up to 450hp the ACT 2600, if you want more, the 2900 is the best i've heard. Good luck.


I have the 2600 and im loving it.

 

[4g63t]

anyone herd anything good about the slowboy racing 4500 that is what i setteld on it sys good to over 600 hp so i wont have to mess with it again.

 

[dsmclipse97]

yea will hold 600hp but your left leg will need a few trips to the gym to work it during rush hour. this is not based on experience but i cant imagine a clutch that can hold 600hp would be very streetable

 

[brute]

The 2600 I have hurts my leg in traffic jams. It is not noticable otherwise (like when driving and shifting normally), it's just the constant in/out slowly that makes it hurt. Then again, my stock 89 camry's clutch would hurt my leg after a while in a traffic jam.

 

[donmagicjuan]

The best way to help you answer your question is to know what your overall goals for the car are, regarding both power and purpose. Remember, power doesn't necessarily kill clutches; launches and torque do. If you plan on abusing the clutch with a lot of track time, then you should err on the side of a stiffer clutch.

I've not heard any feedback on the SBR clutch you're asking about, but I can only imagine the pressure plate is comparable to the ACT 2900 if it can truly hold that much on a street disc. If you plan on this car being even slightly streetable, I would recommend staying with a street disc. The puck clutches, as you probably know now, are too much of a pain to drive in traffic in my opinion.

 

[4g63t]

yes, here is a link to the site http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=5982& ware I got the clutch, It is a full disk. I hate 6pucks, but I do have a slave extencion rod witch will make it stiffer?. I am use to haveing a stiff clutch I just take it out of gear alot.