What clutch should I get for EU Spec 2G

[Ismith]

This might be a dumb question but ive never pulled a transmission untill today and can use some help. I just got my tranny pulled out to change a bad clutch. I had bought a south bend a few days ago.

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I've noticed the flywheel also needs to be replaced. And the south bend doesn't fit on the stock flywheel. Does anyone know what would fit or a different combination to try out?

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[99dsmer4g63]

Well it’s hard to say because I don’t know what your car is.

However the transmission looks to be a fwd turbo trans. Your clutch kit is for a non turbo.

The flywheel looks like it is pretty beat and needs to be replaced anyways even if it did bolt up.

-Daniel

 

[jdxnc]

As said, you have the the non-turbo clutch with what looks like a turbo flywheel. Send the clutch back and get the correct one.

That being said my go-to flywheel for a street car is the ACT Streetlite, lighter than stock but not too light like the Fidanza aluminum one.

 

[Ismith]

It's a 96 non turbo. I bought it back in 2022 when I was stationed in italy. It's technically a euro spec but to my knowledge it's a D31A

Well it’s hard to say because I don’t know what your car is.

However the transmission looks to be a fwd turbo trans. Your clutch kit is for a non turbo.

The flywheel looks like it is pretty beat and needs to be replaced anyways even if it did bolt up.

 

[Ismith]

As said, you have the the non-turbo clutch with what looks like a turbo flywheel. Send the clutch back and get the correct one.

That being said my go-to flywheel for a street car is the ACT Streetlite, lighter than stock but not too light like the Fidanza aluminum one.

I'm probably gonna be sending this one back but the flywheel should be non turbo. Sadly I'm missing out on owning one

 

[pauleyman]

European non turbo cars have the 4g63. You bought a clutch for the 420a chrysler motor. What trans is in the car? I would think the trans is f5m22 but they don't use a stepped flywheel. Likely its the same clutch as a turbo car. You're going to have to verify. If the clutch is disc you took out is 225mm 99% it's the same as turbo 4g63. Verify trans on the id plate on the bellhousing.

 

[Ismith]

European non turbo cars have the 4g63. You bought a clutch for the 420a chrysler motor. What trans is in the car? I would think the trans is f5m22 but they don't use a stepped flywheel. Likely its the same clutch as a turbo car. You're going to have to verify. If the clutch is disc you took out is 225mm 99% it's the same as turbo 4g63. Verify trans on the id plate on the bellhousing.

I just checked the trans, it's a f5m31. Do you know anything about those?

 

[Ismith]

I just checked the trans, it's a f5m31. Do you know anything about those?

Im having a hard time trying to peice together a flywheel clutch and pressure plate that with all work together.

 

[Canadian_CD9A]

It’s a 7-bolt 4G63, it takes the FWD turbo clutch. The clutch you have fits the USDM 420A, which has absolutely nothing in common with the 4G63. Send the clutch back and get a 4G63 clutch & flywheel.

 

[jdxnc]

I'm probably gonna be sending this one back but the flywheel should be non turbo. Sadly I'm missing out on owning one

I'm confused, you're in NC but you have a European model??

 

[99dsmer4g63]

I'm confused, you're in NC but you have a European model??

He said he bought it while stationed in Italy

 

[jdxnc]

He said he bought it while stationed in Italy

Ah my bad, missed that part.

 

[jed344]

I also prefer the ACT flywheel when buying a aftermarket one. They are still steel and not aluminum. Knock on wood over the last 10-12 years out of the box too i think all checked out correct on step height too.

 

[Ismith]

I'm confused, you're in NC but you have a European model??

I was in the military when I bought the car overseas. I had it shipped back to the states

 

[Ismith]

This might be a dumb question but ive never pulled a transmission untill today and can use some help. I just got my tranny pulled out to change a bad clutch. I had bought a south bend a few days ago.

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South Bend / DXD Racing Clutch 95-99 Mitsubishi Eclipse Non-Turbo 2L Stg 2 Daily Clutch Kit (w/ FW)About South Bend ClutchNew and rebuilt clutches ranging from OEM factory specifications to varying degrees of performance and heavy duty for all automotive, truck, and industrial applications! Our...

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I've noticed the flywheel also needs to be replaced. And the south bend doesn't fit on the stock flywheel. Does anyone know what would fit or a different combination to try out?

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Would these me compatible?

Flywheel

Competition Clutch Street Chromoly Steel Flywheels for 4G63T (DSM, GVR4, Evo 1-3)

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Clutch

ACT Clutch Kit Eagle Talon TSi Turbo 4G63 (90-98)

Fitment Information Eagle Talon TSi 2.0L Turbo (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998) Specs & Features Also know to the DSM community as the ACT 2600 Holds up to 320 ft/lbs torque (27% Increase) Product Weight: 11.9 lbs 12 Month Warranty Input Shaft Diameter (Inches): 8.8 Spline...

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[pauleyman]

Just in case you should verify the number of teeth on the ring gear. For USDM the count is 106 awd and 110 fwd. Yours is European so not well documented on this site. Just pick which one you already have.

 

[Ismith]

This might be a dumb question but ive never pulled a transmission untill today and can use some help. I just got my tranny pulled out to change a bad clutch. I had bought a south bend a few days ago.

South Bend / DXD Racing Clutch 95-99 Mitsubishi Eclipse - K70131-HD-O

South Bend / DXD Racing Clutch 95-99 Mitsubishi Eclipse Non-Turbo 2L Stg 2 Daily Clutch Kit (w/ FW)About South Bend ClutchNew and rebuilt clutches ranging from OEM factory specifications to varying degrees of performance and heavy duty for all automotive, truck, and industrial applications! Our...

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I've noticed the flywheel also needs to be replaced. And the south bend doesn't fit on the stock flywheel. Does anyone know what would fit or a different combination to try out?

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Would these me compatible?
Flywheel

Competition Clutch Street Chromoly Steel Flywheels for 4G63T (DSM, GVR4, Evo 1-3)

www.tmzperformance.com

Clutch

ACT Clutch Kit Eagle Talon TSi Turbo 4G63 (90-98)

Fitment Information Eagle Talon TSi 2.0L Turbo (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998) Specs & Features Also know to the DSM community as the ACT 2600 Holds up to 320 ft/lbs torque (27% Increase) Product Weight: 11.9 lbs 12 Month Warranty Input Shaft Diameter (Inches): 8.8 Spline...

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Just in case you should verify the number of teeth on the ring gear. For USDM the count is 106 awd and 110 fwd. Yours is European so not well documented on this site. Just pick which one you already have.

Ok bet, I just counted I got 110

 

[pauleyman]

Fwd flywheel it is

 

[SixBolt_16G]

Any particular reason to go with the Competition flywheel instead of the ACT Streetlite with the ACT 2600?

 

[Ismith]

It was just tryna see if they would work but im getting the ACT kit. Should be here In a couple days

 

[Canadian_CD9A]

Random, related question...any particular reason to go with the Competition flywheel instead of the ACT Streetlite with the ACT 2600?

I think I heard somewhere that the ACT flywheels are made overseas now?

 

[curt-s]

I think mine said Made in the USA still, but neither guarantees quality. That being said, my Streetlite was .609 but I didn't measure backspacing. I do still have my OE flywheel but i don't know off hand if it's been resurfaced. Should be easy to tell based on wear and various staining.


The only thing I can say is if you're going aftermarket, do some measurements before you install it. Step height is important, but also measure the backspacing, if you can. That is, the distance from the top of the step to the back of the flywheel where it would meet the crankshaft, and compare it to a stock flywheel (ideally, one that hasn't been resurfaced). You'll have to do separate measurements and some math for that, as there's no tool that can directly do it.. but it's worthwhile. It's extra data if ACTs are the reason why some of us who have gone with them have had to shim pivot balls.

Although, the requirement to shim also could be due to clutch disc over-thickness, pressure plate finger geometry, and so forth.. but it's good data you could report back.

 

[CrackedDSM]

According to Tim Zimmer the Comp Flywheel and the ACT flywheel are the same thing, just different companies final badge on it.


My ACT Flywheel also measured out to .609 everywhere.

 

[twicks69]

I said the flywheels from ACT and Comp Clutch are dimensionally the same, there are differences in between them, but step height, and overall dimensions and weight are pretty much the same.
7-bolt FWD - 110 teeth, stepped flywheel with 0.608-0.610" step height.
ACT - 600165
Comp - 2-735-4ST

In this circumstance, using a F5M31 transmission, he should be using a stepped 7-bolt FWD turbo flywheel and a clutch kit for a 4G63T application with a 225mm clutch disk, 7/8"-20 spline. Clutch fork is standard MD770506 with MD719602 pivot ball, 21.2mm 7 bolt 4G63 flywheel bolts MD302074 x7, MF241251 x6 pressure plate bolts.

Clutch slave cylinder part numbers would be -
OEM - MD749822
OEM - MD742157
OEM alt - Seiken 11531068

You have a HD-O pretty much stock clutch showing from SBC that you originally purchased for a 420A application, the correct ones for your 4G63 NA euro-spec 2g Eclipse application are below:
SBC - K05048-HD-O
SBC - K536 options (I sell higher capacity models with different pressure plates / disk friction materials; such as the SS and SS-X pressure plates, and TZ Kevlar disk, TZ/B dual friction Kevlar/Ceramic disk, and B full Ceramic disk)
ACT 2100 kit - MB1-HDSS
Competition Clutch - 5048-2100
Exedy - 05800

 

[curt-s]

Just don't get a Fidanza V2 unless you like leaving every stop sign and traffic light at 2500rpm oof chatter