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[nothingfiction]

your missing my point entirely it seems.

im not saying the original post is worthless, if you recall my very first post on this thread was it's a good video. it wasn't until others started debating this and that and someone said something about statistics. my comments have NOT been about the video or about having no heart and whatever have you else. Just that statistics are false and should not be held almighty. the statistics say whatever the speaker is wanting them to say disregarding the variables.

Yes you can get a under DWI while not drunk. you may have smoked pot, you may have eaten a poppy seed muffin and found opium in your system, you may have just finished a long run and be out of breath, None of this matters in the court of law. in the court of law you failed the test and you get prosecuted (wether it be just a ticket or a fine or jailtime). You can pass a breathalyzer then they ask you to get out of the car and walk the line. if they are still not impressed your not drunk they get more absurd with the finger to the nose game while patting your stomach. and if the cop still isnt impressed he has ya do jumping jacks, recite the alphabet, list all of the presidents in order, or whatever he has to do to give you that ticket. You fail any of those he will give you a ticket. you can go to court and fight it, they will skip all the footage of the harassment and edit it in their favor to just show you as a retarded drunk. Six months later you see a 10 second clip of you on cops. Even if you do fight it, all viable evidence for and against you is lost by the time of the trial. So it is just your word against the cops. Who wins? Not you buddy. Good job on that statistic of yours.

Want another statistic? How about this...
Statistics show that more african-american's do crime than whites. is this true? You would say yes because that is what the statistic shows. i say no because there is such a thing as racial profiling and racism in general.
Statistics show that men pay higher auto insurance rates because they are recluse. is this true? You would say so because macho men like to show off. i say it's false because women do stupid shit too like put on make-up, talk to everyone and their neighbor on the phone ect, which could be just as dangerous. But since women are attractive and most police officers are male just a little tear in our eye or playing dumb to not seeing a sign with a pretty smile on our face we drive away screwing up your precious statistic.
Statistics show that marijuana is a gateway drug and those who smoke it will tend to get involved with other harder more illegal drugs like heroin and cocaine or crack. You seem like the type to smoke pot, you tell me if this is true.
Statistics show that watching more than 3 hours a day of television you will rot your brain. I'm sure that all of us here have proven that wrong by now.

All i am saying is you can only trust a statistic as well as you can the politician telling it.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

I only go apeshit if you call it a harmonic balancer instead of a harmonic damper.

And this is why I like you.

 

[SpawnedX]

your missing my point entirely it seems.

im not saying the original post is worthless, if you recall my very first post on this thread was it's a good video. it wasn't until others started debating this and that and someone said something about statistics. my comments have NOT been about the video or about having no heart and whatever have you else. Just that statistics are false and should not be held almighty. the statistics say whatever the speaker is wanting them to say disregarding the variables.

Yes you can get a under DWI while not drunk. you may have smoked pot, you may have eaten a poppy seed muffin and found opium in your system, you may have just finished a long run and be out of breath, None of this matters in the court of law. in the court of law you failed the test and you get prosecuted (wether it be just a ticket or a fine or jailtime). You can pass a breathalyzer then they ask you to get out of the car and walk the line. if they are still not impressed your not drunk they get more absurd with the finger to the nose game while patting your stomach. and if the cop still isnt impressed he has ya do jumping jacks, recite the alphabet, list all of the presidents in order, or whatever he has to do to give you that ticket. You fail any of those he will give you a ticket. you can go to court and fight it, they will skip all the footage of the harassment and edit it in their favor to just show you as a retarded drunk. Six months later you see a 10 second clip of you on cops. Even if you do fight it, all viable evidence for and against you is lost by the time of the trial. So it is just your word against the cops. Who wins? Not you buddy. Good job on that statistic of yours.

Want another statistic? How about this...
Statistics show that more african-american's do crime than whites. is this true? You would say yes because that is what the statistic shows. i say no because there is such a thing as racial profiling and racism in general.
Statistics show that men pay higher auto insurance rates because they are recluse. is this true? You would say so because macho men like to show off. i say it's false because women do stupid shit too like put on make-up, talk to everyone and their neighbor on the phone ect, which could be just as dangerous. But since women are attractive and most police officers are male just a little tear in our eye or playing dumb to not seeing a sign with a pretty smile on our face we drive away screwing up your precious statistic.
Statistics show that marijuana is a gateway drug and those who smoke it will tend to get involved with other harder more illegal drugs like heroin and cocaine or crack. You seem like the type to smoke pot, you tell me if this is true.
Statistics show that watching more than 3 hours a day of television you will rot your brain. I'm sure that all of us here have proven that wrong by now.

All i am saying is you can only trust a statistic as well as you can the politician telling it.

This really has nothing to do with this post at all.

All the NHTSA does is collect the reports filed by both the police and the individuals involved and gathers the numbers. This isn't case manipulation.

There are many flaws in your argument.

1. The whole police tape thing, any competent lawyer will pull the log for the tape, the list of who and when it was removed and for how long. They will point out the gaps in the time stamp. I know you don't have inside knowledge of how police recording software works, but I promise you, editing to it for use in a court case will never win.

2. You are arguing about statistics that can be changed. You may wink and smile at a cop, which is a joke it never works around here and I can bring you plenty of female proof of that, but that's just life. An accident cannot be ignored or overlooked. There has to be an investigation into any fatal accident and a determination as to a cause. That cause is then put into a database and put into statistics. All statistics do is review documented events. So of the recorded accidents most are caused by this and that, and then you can pretty much apply the logic of law of averages.


3. It's actually well documented that women get into more accidents then men, but accidents men get into, more are fatal. That's why the insurance rate is what it is. It has nothing to do with the number or who is more likely to be reckless, it's about how many people of what type died or killed someone.

4. If you feel a police officer is harassing you at the scene, you have the right to ask for his CO. Don't believe me? Try it. I have plenty of times in the past.

5. There is no statistic that says watching more than 3 hours a day will rot your brain. Good luck finding one to use that as an argument stepping stone.

6. Learn the difference between a DUI and a DWI. Because we were talking about a DUI.

 

[nothingfiction]

This really has nothing to do with this post at all.

All the NHTSA does is collect the reports filed by both the police and the individuals involved and gathers the numbers. This isn't case manipulation.

There are many flaws in your argument.

1. The whole police tape thing, any competend lawyer will pull the log for the tape, the list of who and when it was removed and for how long. They will point out the gaps in the time stamp. I know you don't have inside knowledge of how police recording software works, but I promise you, editing to it for use in a court case will never win.

2. You are arguing about statistics that can be changed. You may wink and smile at a cop, which is a joke it never works around here and I can bring you plenty of female proof of that, but that's just life. An accident cannot be ignored or overlooked. There has to be an investigation into any fatal accident and a determination as to a cause. That cause is then put into a database and put into statistics. All statistics do is review documented events. So of the recorded accidents most are caused by this and that, and then you can pretty much apply the logic of law of averages.


3. It's actually well documented that women get into more accidents then men, but accidents men get into, more are fatal. That's why the insurance rate is what it is. It has nothing to do with the number or who is more likely to be reckless, it's about how many people of what type died or killed someone.

4. If you feel a police officer is harassing you at the scene, you have the right to ask for his CO. Don't believe me? Try it. I have plenty of times in the past.

5. There is no statistic that says watching more than 3 hours a day will rot your brain. Good luck finding one to use that as an argument stepping stone.

6. Learn the difference between a DUI and a DWI. Because we were talking about a DUI.

There is no difference between dui and dwi. some states/territories/ and provinces only have one or the other. not both. Driving Under the Influence and Driving while Intoxicated is the exact same thing under all technicality. Just one of those adds more things other than alcohol into that statistic.

Think back to the 1920's when t.v. was first invented. you may not find a statistic for 3 hours anymore because it was proven wrong before the 1990's when internet was invented and people started posting and collecting data for it.

as for the rest of that. women do get off with a lot more screwing up your statistic. i don't know your province or town but they do internationally. the difference is we don't cause as much damage, this i won't argue for or against. but just a simple speeding ticket, yeah, we walk without even a verbal warning. when there actually is an accident, yes i know all the procedure of investigations and collecting evidence and such. but i'm not talking about that. i am talking about the part that not all things are collected and there is no record of. Such as my last speeding ticket. Yes i got busted, pulled over, then let go without a slap on the wrist. What about other data that isn't collected or is withdrawn from the collection because it doesn't fit your needs?

Statistics say that cracking your knuckles will make them fatter, altho doctors have proven this wrong you still probably believe this.
Statistics say being out in the sun for long periods of time causes cancer. im no doctor but wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE in california and florida who go to the beach all the time do have cancer?
Statistics show that a child raised in environment where they get beat or molested, that child will do the same when they get older. to date i have read nor seen any viable reported document of this as many who have came from childhoods of this to be not that way. But for the sake of your statistic i guess they weren't beat enough to count. right?
Statistics show that people who make minimum wage or less are more subjected to thievery and petty crime. and how many times have rich celebrities been busted with drugs? how many politicians embezzle money or threaten job security for sex? as you said, the word "documented" what doesn't get documented doesn't make it to your statistic. therefor it is flawed. and who choses which cases fit your spectre of statistics?

Let's say that your a lawyer looking for statistics of let's say seatbelt failures in car crashes. your judge may throw one of those cases out because the driver was smoking, therefor the seatbelt failed because it was burnt, not because of the crash. let's say someone died of a heartattack. the thought that their seatbelt failed doesn't even enter because they died from something other than the seatbelt so why bother entering that into your seatbelt case? see what i am saying? i highly doubt it. Nevermind.

 

[SpawnedX]

There is no difference between dui and dwi. some states/territories/ and provinces only have one or the other. not both. Driving Under the Influence and Driving while Intoxicated is the exact same thing under all technicality. Just one of those adds more things other than alcohol into that statistic.

Wrong. DWI is a much heavier charge in most states.

Think back to the 1920's when t.v. was first invented. you may not find a statistic for 3 hours anymore because it was proven wrong before the 1990's when internet was invented and people started posting and collecting data for it.

Considering there were no TVs in the 1910's, how could they have a statistic? This is just assumption by an uneducated and unexperienced generation. Not statistic.

as for the rest of that. women do get off with a lot more screwing up your statistic. i don't know your province or town but they do internationally. the difference is we don't cause as much damage, this i won't argue for or against. but just a simple speeding ticket, yeah, we walk without even a verbal warning. when there actually is an accident, yes i know all the procedure of investigations and collecting evidence and such. but i'm not talking about that. i am talking about the part that not all things are collected and there is no record of. Such as my last speeding ticket. Yes i got busted, pulled over, then let go without a slap on the wrist. What about other data that isn't collected or is withdrawn from the collection because it doesn't fit your needs?

I have no speeding tickets. I have gotten off just by being respectful. Boobs have nothing to do with it. However, how speeding tickets come into play with accident fatality statistics is beyond me. You can't give a ticket to a dead person.

Statistics say that cracking your knuckles will make them fatter, altho doctors have proven this wrong you still probably believe this.

That's called research. God your posts are becoming vapid.

Statistics say being out in the sun for long periods of time causes cancer. im no doctor but wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE in california and florida who go to the beach all the time do have cancer?

Research says being in the sun for a long period of time increases your risk, not that it causes.

Statistics show that a child raised in environment where they get beat or molested, that child will do the same when they get older. to date i have read nor seen any viable reported document of this as many who have came from childhoods of this to be not that way. But for the sake of your statistic i guess they weren't beat enough to count. right?

Research says they are more likely not that they will.

Statistics show that people who make minimum wage or less are more subjected to thievery and petty crime. and how many times have rich celebrities been busted with drugs? how many politicians embezzle money or threaten job security for sex? as you said, the word "documented" what doesn't get documented doesn't make it to your statistic. therefor it is flawed.

Research says they are more likely, because there are more per capita of them than rich celebrities. 99% of all wealth is held by 1% of the population. That means there is a heck of a lot more minimum wage earners, which means more will be likely to steal. Yes there are just so many accidents the cops leave on the side of the road with dead bodies for the vultures to eat. Get real.

Let's say that your a lawyer looking for statistics of let's say seatbelt failures in car crashes. your judge may throw one of those cases out because the driver was smoking, therefor the seatbelt failed because it was burnt, not because of the crash. let's say someone died of a heartattack. the thought that their seatbelt failed doesn't even enter because they died from something other than the seatbelt so why bother entering that into your seatbelt case? see what i am saying? i highly doubt it. Nevermind.

You are starting to look like a raving lunatic. If the seatbelt failure happened due to an accident, or the person suffered a heart attack because of the accident, then they still died because of an accident.

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Leave it to a woman to try deflection that has no relevance to the conversation. That's a statistic by the way.

 

[Benshooter]

Well THIS thread sure blew up. Just so I'm clear, my first post in no way condones street racing or such things.

Obviously, mass + velocity = death. We all know that.

Have I gone fast enough to get an immediate felony if I was caught? Yes, and you have no idea... Did I do it with anyone else on the road, or within 5 miles of me? No. Did I do it with someone in the car? No. I've put in my share of wheel time. These days I'm more concerned about equipment failures, high speed blowouts, etc than I am of my abillities.

Another important note since I brought up equipment failures... ALWAYS check your car out thoroughly, and I mean, THOROUGHLY before dropping the hammer. Also, when you go to buy those new sweet Z-rated tires, make sure you can get a manufacture date for those tires. I've seen "brand new" Pirellis blow out on the first high speed run because they sat on a shelf for years.

 

[SpawnedX]

Remember that if they are Z-rated, then they have been sitting for years on the shelf. Because Z-rated was replaced by W amd Y.

Sorry I had to.

 

[ncampos92562]

Wake up! You can't 'do your own thing' on a public thoroughfare. You have a resposibility to your surrounding fellowperson who may interact with you based on their natural choices.

For the recent arguements. OK. . . you don't believe statistics. Yea. fine. Statistics were only put out there to get a point across, just like the fake video. . . But reality is momentum change, reaction time, and human error. You can prove reality to be fake just as well actually, if you want to get into the 'philosophy of physics', but it still hurts.

do you believe the theme of the video? Who here thinks driving while texting or looking at the news paper or typing on a laptop or not paying attention to your surrondings or speeding (not going with the flow of traffic; that's a separate issue) or streetracing someone even to the said limit doesn't put you at fault unless some ill-minded sap just has a habit of cartwheeling into oncoming traffic?

Oh I believe the video, I would hate to have this happen. I've seen many videos where bikers are laid out at complete stops by drivers. Would suck to see it happen to a person I love. But you guys seem to be blowing this up way too much per say. It is highly unlikely that someone else will be able to change an others view on something. Especially to this caliber.

The way I see this thread unfolding it is like making a point, then beating it further down until it is ingrained into the other person's head. Why push your views on someone else? Most people have a strong view on these types of actions anyway. It would be very hard, almost pointless to keep pursuing past a point.

I can see saying, " Hey, you have a high risk of taking someone out of this world by doing such and such action; why not stop?" Then when they reply in a negative way or don't want to comply the way the other person wants them to, the other person says, "No. Your wrong and do not care for others."

There are just far too many types of people in the world have everyone on the same page.
And for the heck of it, here is the video, it is drunk driving but still on the same level as stupid drivers/people.(It is kind of off topic of the OP, but still same category)
If you haven't seen this, it is a program called Every 15 Minutes that a company puts on for young adults to show the effects of drunk driving(stupid people) were a person is killed every 15 minutes statistically by a drunk driver. They reenact a car crash at a high school. They recruit a certain amount of kids out of the school and make them stay at a hotel to make it as if they were actually gone. Then later they have the kids in the "skit" sent to the hospital like if the crash were real and tell the parents of the kids that the kids were actually killed or hurt in the accident(the parents don't know its a "skit"). It gets very real and deep(to me at least). I think this will hit home with the younger adult crowd because I know there are quite a few on here.
Part 1(All the kids are real, all the police, firemen, EMTs are real, not actors):
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Part 2:
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Part 3:
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[Fotowntalon]

Think back to the 1920's when t.v. was first invented. you may not find a statistic for 3 hours anymore because it was proven wrong before the 1990's

I'm not sure the date TV's were being made, but I know (from watching dr. oz, thats my source) that TV's did use to hurt eye sight because of the radiation they emitted. However that is older TV's obviously technology has improved which nullified that argument.

And to Spawny, we are arguing about many different laws, and you for one should know that laws differ from state to state, as well as country to country. Nothingfiction is from Canada so different laws apply to her as to you and as to me.

 

[avenged5]

Wow. I love the im too good to wreck mentality. Haha. This video instilled some "sad" feelings but this entire thread just makes me laugh. There are a few facts within all these hard-boiled opinions.

So the average human takes 0.7-1.5 seconds to recognize an emergency and push the brake.
so lets use one second for this scenario.
At 25mph you will tavel 37 feet before you even touch the brake
At 35mph you will tavel 51 feet before you even touch the brake
At 45mph you will tavel 66 feet before you even touch the brake
At 55mph you will tavel 81 feet before you even touch the brake
At 65mph you will tavel 95 feet before you even touch the brake
At 75mph you will tavel 110 feet before you even touch the brake
At 90mph you will tavel 132 feet before you even touch the brake
At 100mph you will tavel 147 feet before you even touch the brake
At 120mph you will tavel 176 feet before you even touch the brake
At 150mph you will tavel 220 feet before you even touch the brake

I know that some people here are faster than average. But lets think about this for a second. Most people traveling at 60 mph will travel arround 90 feet before they touch the brakes Then add another 120.5 feet average to come to a complete stop in a strait line.(this distance will be slightly longer if your swerving or turning while braking) That is a total of 210.5 feet average to recognize a hazard hit the brakes and completely stop from 60mph. Now if your in a congested area or someone is expecting you to be ding 30 or 40 mph and pull sout from a intersection there is a very good chance that the SPEED that your traveling at will eat up the distance and cause an accident efore you can do anything about it. Even as a skilled driver in a good handling car. Facts are facts folks. Speed causes accidents because of 3 things.
1. The amount of ground you cover in a short period of time.
2. Limiting factors of the average human reaction time.
3. The faster your moving when you hit something or someone the more damage it will do to that something or someone.

You can argue about how good you are or how well your car handles, but the truth is that if you speed all the time. It is just a matter of time before your end up in a serious, possibly fatal car crash.

This is the most important post in this thread. This is fact. This shows that no matter how good you are there is little to no room to react to something unexpected.

 

[NYCRedlineTalon]

The point is Drive safe no point in putting other people's life at risk cause we wanna race and speed. I say as long a it's a track or empty highway where you can't endanger anyone but yourself then have fun.

 

[gh0st1981]

I think I'll just take the bus after watching that...I'm allergic to garbage trucks rolling over on top of my car and don't want to risk it

 

[rock1t]

I'm not sure the date TV's were being made, but I know (from watching dr. oz, thats my source) that TV's did use to hurt eye sight because of the radiation they emitted. However that is older TV's obviously technology has improved which nullified that argument.

And to Spawny, we are arguing about many different laws, and you for one should know that laws differ from state to state, as well as country to country. Nothingfiction is from Canada so different laws apply to her as to you and as to me.

this thread is starting to hurt my eyes because it's emitting 'fail'

 

[ramsack]

Ramsack, if you truly lack a respect for human life to the point that you can say that you "don't give a shit if it saves a few lives", then you need to seek counseling. Seriously. Truly putting value on human life is what makes us HUMAN.

Who are you to say what makes 7 billion people human? Tell me if different breeds of dog share the same instinctual traits. They don't. Instinct is something that is not fully understood. It is all Freudian BS. Survival is in human instinct too, so worrying about only myself would make me human too. If I see someone in a burning car or a building I will do whatever I can. I will not be a part of a club that preaches against stuff. Comparing the two is like apples and oranges. You want to call me a bad person because I don't believe in that sort of thing, screw you.

 

[dsmdeliveryboy]

The point of this thread is? We all already know everyone out there nowadays that drives doesn't know how to drive, most people are too distracted by cell phones and life around them. That being said, use more common sense when driving.

 

[rEclipserGST]

+2 for being dead or heartless.

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Go hard or go home.

A LOT of this video was fake. Who the hell is in the blimp with a camera in the sky hawking over PURE idiots driving like maniacs? Not to mention to pedestrians who OBVIOUSLY did NOT look twice before crossing the road. I guess that dry cleaning or birthday cake he was holding was going to expire soon. People who think they have to rush are the people that cause this crap. I would say some of these videos were actually speed limit accidents. Trucks, buses, trains, & pedestrians being destroyed does not mean you have to drive fast. So many variables.

I really expected this to be true street racing or newbs running streets. But nope. Just life edited to make it look short & not sweet.

 

[SpawnedX]

In order for me to post those videos, I would have to post street racing videos...which isn't allowed.

 

[Calan]

A LOT of this video was fake.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

Oh I believe the video, I would hate to have this happen. I've seen many videos where bikers are laid out at complete stops by drivers. Would suck to see it happen to a person I love. But you guys seem to be blowing this up way too much per say. It is highly unlikely that someone else will be able to change an others view on something. Especially to this caliber.

The way I see this thread unfolding it is like making a point, then beating it further down until it is ingrained into the other person's head. Why push your views on someone else? Most people have a strong view on these types of actions anyway. It would be very hard, almost pointless to keep pursuing past a point.

I can see saying, " Hey, you have a high risk of taking someone out of this world by doing such and such action; why not stop?" Then when they reply in a negative way or don't want to comply the way the other person wants them to, the other person says, "No. Your wrong and do not care for others."

There are just far too many types of people in the world have everyone on the same page.
And for the heck of it, here is the video, it is drunk driving but still on the same level as stupid drivers/people.(It is kind of off topic of the OP, but still same category)
If you haven't seen this, it is a program called Every 15 Minutes that a company puts on for young adults to show the effects of drunk driving(stupid people) were a person is killed every 15 minutes statistically by a drunk driver. They reenact a car crash at a high school. They recruit a certain amount of kids out of the school and make them stay at a hotel to make it as if they were actually gone. Then later they have the kids in the "skit" sent to the hospital like if the crash were real and tell the parents of the kids that the kids were actually killed or hurt in the accident(the parents don't know its a "skit"). It gets very real and deep(to me at least). I think this will hit home with the younger adult crowd because I know there are quite a few on here.
Part 1(All the kids are real, all the police, firemen, EMTs are real, not actors):

I'm sorry.. these videos, while they were there for a message, they had SO many holes. 1 : Who the hell parties, underage, in the DAYTIME? 2 : How did the chick fly through the windshield from a side impact? Hmmm?

... Just saying -Watches 2nd episode-

 

[SpawnedX]

At firstI was like and then I was and . Now I am like and wish they would all before I get .

Because...

 

[slowgsr]

6:05, that really disturbes me. Anyone else see that? What is wrong with people.

 

[JEFFREYCASTGSX]

Don't matter if it fake, i dont care if you "think" or "know" that you "can" drive, accidents happen to anyone, thats why they call them accidents. The chances of anything serious happening go up if you are distracted by texting, calling someone, or whatever. What if your racing down the street when a kid that does not look both ways before crossing streets runs down the street, how are you gonna feel if you even came close to hitting him, or worse? If you like to speed(or street race as some of you street racers call it) then thats you, but whats to stop something from getting in your way and ruining your fun, remember someone can get sideways by "accident" and lose control, even when you dont want to, or when you least expect it. Anything can happen at any moment, dont be so ignorant, you could be john force with danicka patrick riding shotgun and you can still have a accident from normal cruising or while taking it the limit.

 

[TJCTalon]

Speeding does not kill!! Here is one statistic from my mechanical saftey test for advance auto.

If you guys want to get statistical, i will dig up some to prove this point.

According to the National Automobile Dealers Association, most accidents occur within 25 miles of our homes, and at speeds under 45 miles per hour. Motor vehicle crashes are the number one cause of work-related fatalities in the United States.

 

[Calan]

According to the National Automobile Dealers Association, most accidents occur within 25 miles of our homes, and at speeds under 45 miles per hour.

That's because the majority of driving is done within 25 miles of our homes, and at speeds under 45 miles per hour. Can you say... DUH.

And that has nothing to do with the fact that the faster you're going, the less time you have to react.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

In short... ANYTHING causes accidents.

An Accident is an occurrence that is NOT expected. You can be driving below the speed limit, above the speed limit, at the speed limit, walking the dog, feeding the cat, making out with your boyfriend at an intersection, holding your baby up in the back seat, crossing the street without looking, turning, and it doesn't matter.

Speeding attributes to the increase of the potential accident. Being an idiot attributes more.

-shrug- Shit happens. Do your best to not cause it or be caught in it and thank your lucky stars that you're able to read this text today.