t04b(v-trim) Bolt on Discussion

[IPT]

Sorry I forgot, but this goes the same for a 2G with a 6-bolt motor. The motor mount on the front of the motor is not being used, therefore the 2G drain line will work.

 

[dsm4me]

A month? We shipped your turbo on February 1st and we had your drain drop shipped from the Turbo Trader since we were out of stock. It went out last week so you should have received it by now. I will check with them tomorrow to see what happened to it. I apologize for the delay.

its ok, hopefully they'll get it to me by the weekend. well i'll let you know when i get the drain and how the #s are with this turbo. i'll keep you posted, thanks for the good deal, later, ron

 

[1029TSG]

I checked with Nick, you should have it today.


Back to my earlier question, can we please get some more feedback from you guys? If Bullseye were to offer the option of a 24 month warranty or a 360 degree thrust what would you choose? We dont want to go through the trouble of adding a new option to our turbocharger if everyone is just going to take the warranty.

 

[sweet97]

I'm buying the AGP RS60T. I am told it has the same Bullseye turbine as my AGP 50 trim. That turbine housing is the best part of my 50 trim, almost did not want to mount it as it was cool to just admire the quality and stout look of it. As long as the 60T has the same housing I will be pleased.What I can't find is the a/r of this turbine housing. Can someone fill me in on this?
I did have a little problem wit bullseye. ilike the thick composite askets they use as the thin copper gasket that came with the AGP was totally fried crisply, fell apart onto 4 pieces. i ordered a new turbo to manifold gasket from Bullseye which was $12. and was charged $8.77 for shipping!! I need the turbo to 02 housing and spoke to bullseye about it and wll see what they wil do to cut mr some slack. Onthe first gasket I was told they would send it for 4 or 5 dollars. Heck I got a silicone reducer from California that weighed more and traveled a lot more to get to New York for only $6.90. On Bullseye's defense a young lady personally went to a post office and mailed my original turbo to 02 housing for me. Gaskets only weigh a few ounces even packaged.I still like Bullseye and would want no other turbine going on my turbo's. It's the nicest turbine I have seen. I would just like to know it's a/r!!! Anyone help me here, David?

 

[1029TSG]

Sorry about the shipping but UPS has raised their prices and its borderline highway robbery to ship 1 pound even across the street. Unfortunately the post office is many miles from our shop and sending an employee out on the roads is a liability we'd like to avoid. Since your situation, we have decided to purchase cardboard envelopes and the proper postage in advance. This should enable us to ship 1-2 gaskets for around $2-3 dollars in the lower 48 without leaving the building. Thanks for bringing this to our attention yesterday and we appreciate any and all feedback so we can continue to improve our customer service. I believe they shipped your second gasket free of charge for you as well.

As far as the A/R, most of you know the only number we can disclose is that its between a .48 and a .63. Sorry, but we'd like to keep that info to ourselves.

 

[sweet97]

Sorry about the shipping but UPS has raised their prices and its borderline highway robbery to ship 1 pound even across the street. Unfortunately the post office is many miles from our shop and sending an employee out on the roads is a liability we'd like to avoid. Since your situation, we have decided to purchase cardboard envelopes and the proper postage in advance. This should enable us to ship 1-2 gaskets for around $2-3 dollars in the lower 48 without leaving the building. Thanks for bringing this to our attention yesterday and we appreciate any and all feedback so we can continue to improve our customer service. I believe they shipped your second gasket free of charge for you as well.

As far as the A/R, most of you know the only number we can disclose is that its between a .48 and a .63. Sorry, but we'd like to keep that info to ourselves.

I was not angry rather disappointed. I ended uppaying $20.77 for a $12. gasket and the USPS is quicker and chearpe. The pre paid envelopes so gaskets can be shipped that way is a positive change! Thank You. I could buy gaskets elsewhere but I like the thick composite ones Bullseye sells, heck I did not even ask AGP especially after the one that came with the turbo could take NO heat!
I understand proprietary information but is bullseye really concerned someone would copy the a/r you use?
Wel as long as it is no more than a .63. The 1 guy whio hated his 60-1 from AGP had a .82 a/r for his turbine. Confused because I thought AGP used the bullseye housings? The pic of the RS60T looks like a Bullseye and AGP said it was the same bullseye housing as my RS49 used. Can't say enough about those housings. No clean-up porting needed due to the smooth casting. Love the tick flanges also. The turbine to exhaust maifold flange is betweem 5/8" and 3/4" thick. The turbine to 02 housing is a bit over 1/2" thick. Thanks Dave I hope they do send me the gasket as compecsation. A reply of thanks will follow. Mark

 

[1029TSG]

The casting is not a petrobond sand casting, but a shell mold which is why its so smooth right out of the mold. You will also notice the nice straight, cone shaped inlet that gives you that added throttle response everyone is looking for.

 

[1029TSG]

The slightly thicker inlet flange keeps the compressor housing away from the water pipe. The thicker outlet flange allows us to run our V-Band exhaust flange adaptor. With the pocket machined out, it allows the wastegate enough travel to function properly without hitting the block off plate.

 

[1029TSG]

The second picture happens to be our T-3 Garrett style inlet for any Garrett header or manifold. This turbo also works great on Honda's, Miata's, MR2's and so on. The 3" V-band adaptor is also a great, inexpensive alternative to buying an upgraded O2 elbow or eliminator downpipe.

 

[sweet97]

Gives it a nice strong look also. Have you found that removing some of the section between the wastegate and turbine wheel outlet that creep is lessened? Mark

 

[1029TSG]

Out of nearly 1500 castings we've never had anyone with boost creep. Although it may help slightly if you did, its still nothing more than a "Band Aid"

 

[whitegst97]

I have a question regarding the pre-oiling procedure of the turbo. I just got a t04b and along with the return line gaskets comes a little note saying to add clean oil before putting on the feedline. So basically just drop some oil in the cartridge to lube it up and then install the feedline? Thanks

 

[tmizer]

1029TSG, in response to your earlier question:

A. 2 year no questions asked warranty, or
B. 360 degree thrust bearing

A, definitely.

 

[spades_gsx]

i am in the market to purchase a t04b as to the fact that my turbo decided to destroy itself J/k. I am in desperate need of a turbo and am wondering if I can run this turbo at stock boost level with stock injectors in the mean time until I get my fuel mods?" my current mods are in my profile

 

[1029TSG]

Just pull your coil pack and crank the car a few times for 5-10 seconds to pump oil to the turbo without actually starting the engine, this would be more than sufficient.

Yes, you can run the T04B at lower boost (12-15 psi) until you upgrade your fuel system.

 

[1029TSG]

1029TSG, in response to your earlier question:

A. 2 year no questions asked warranty, or
B. 360 degree thrust bearing

A, definitely.

Thank you, anyone else?

 

[fiveiron]

i would probably say the 2 year warranty also...if you feel ok about the bearing to offer a 2 year warranty then i feel pretty good about it also

 

[whitegst97]

2 year warranty sounds better to me

 

[pboglio]

...360* thrust bearing
...Water cooled CHRA

 

[CarSalesman]

After alot of waiting for my car dealership to be able to order me the bolts, I was finally able to put this turbo on last night. (I job I took WAY to lightly I might add) After breaking 2 bolts off in the old turbo, and having to install everything twice because I kept needing to line something else up, I finally got the car up and running just after midnight (5 hours).

The gentleman above asked about running the car without upgrading the fuel system and unfortunately I had to do just that to get to work today. My only mods right now are a K/N filter and a Dejon intake pipe and this turbo. Tonight I hope to be able to install more of the parts I have accumulated, but the car runs fine on this turbo if you stay off hitting the gas hard. The car actually runs better with this turbo than it did before. The low end power seems smoother (maybe a little less very bottom end power). With luck I will have the fuel system upgraded tonight (if my son goes to bed early).

Don't be afraid to mount this turbo stock but don't expect your air intake or your lower intercooler piping to fit. Looking backwards, I think I would recommend to anyone considering this swap to just change out the lower IC pipe instead of trying to retrofit the old one.

Good Luck
Randy

 

[spades_gsx]

After alot of waiting for my car dealership to be able to order me the bolts, I was finally able to put this turbo on last night. (I job I took WAY to lightly I might add) After breaking 2 bolts off in the old turbo, and having to install everything twice because I kept needing to line something else up, I finally got the car up and running just after midnight (5 hours).

The gentleman above asked about running the car without upgrading the fuel system and unfortunately I had to do just that to get to work today. My only mods right now are a K/N filter and a Dejon intake pipe and this turbo. Tonight I hope to be able to install more of the parts I have accumulated, but the car runs fine on this turbo if you stay off hitting the gas hard. The car actually runs better with this turbo than it did before. The low end power seems smoother (maybe a little less very bottom end power). With luck I will have the fuel system upgraded tonight (if my son goes to bed early).

Don't be afraid to mount this turbo stock but don't expect your air intake or your lower intercooler piping to fit. Looking backwards, I think I would recommend to anyone considering this swap to just change out the lower IC pipe instead of trying to retrofit the old one.

Good Luck
Randy

fuel mods tonight? what about an exhaust if not a turboback atleast a catback. the only reason I asked if you could run this turbo on a stock fuel system is b/c that is pretty much the only thing left as far as major mods to get ANY turbo to run on my car. but like I said earlier, it would make more sense and save time and money to just install the turbo i want to run now as apposed to buying and installing the same turbo that is already on the car and then upgrade the fuel system, then install the t04b. if you mod in the correct order you will straighten alot of issues with your car early instead of bolting on the GOOD stuff and having to pay ALOT later.

 

[1029TSG]

Copy and paste from the other T04B thread. Sorry if you already read this.



There's been a lot of talk about where these compressor wheels came from and what their original application and designed for. Is anyone interested in where the 50 trim, 60 trim and 60-1 originated?

50 trim: Primarily used in the Garrett TA34 drop-in for the Cummins Diesel 6BT model.

60 trim: Mostly used in Ford 7.8L Diesel Brazilian-built six-cylinder engines.

60-1: Original use was in the TC44 (basically a large T04B) unit, on Detroit Diesel 8.2L V-8 engines for truck and marine applications. Oddly, the O.E. choice for Bentley Mulsanne S passenger car as well.

 

[steel_3d]

What kind of injectors are you guys running with the v-trim, and what's your duty cycle at?
I'm looking at some 780's used. Any major drawbacks? I'm running a maf translator now.
Will the v-trim flow enough around 18psi to keep the timing in check? If the timing's too high I'll need a chip, right?

Also, how are these big injectors with idle and fuel mileage, with and without a chip? I've seen some people run really crappy with bigass injectors. This is my daily driver.

 

[RavenX]

What kind of injectors are you guys running with the v-trim, and what's your duty cycle at?
I'm looking at some 780's used. Any major drawbacks? I'm running a maf translator now.
Will the v-trim flow enough around 18psi to keep the timing in check? If the timing's too high I'll need a chip, right?

Also, how are these big injectors with idle and fuel mileage, with and without a chip? I've seen some people run really crappy with bigass injectors. This is my daily driver.

You should be ok with the maf translator. Also you can use 550's but 650's are better recommended with the vtrim. I myself have 550's and ran 15psi no problem on the vtrim but after my engine fiasco am selling them and going ahead to 750's or 850's dunno which yet

 

[CarSalesman]

I hear what your saying, but frankly the Speed Factor folks were on it and sent my order out right away. I have the 650 injectors and the ole super duper AFC here.

R n R Racing on the other hand collected my money a good 3-4 weeks ago promising to send out a 3" turboback exhaust. Normally I don't get concerned about waiting but I have been leaving voice mails for a week now inquiring about my order and I haven't even gotten the courtesy of a call back. (I will post the outcome of that later) The stock O 2 housing looked like it had about 50% of the capacity of the turbo when I bolted it on so I am really looking forward to the exhaust getting here.

On the other hand while I have some time during the wait I can install that nifty fuel pump, the injectors, and try to figure out that confusing as hell picture of the ECM in the Apex manual.

Randy

And Dave... Thanks for advice about getting new bolts to mount the turbo... That was a live saver. I would have been taking the taxi to work.