should i tt my car

[bricksquad7]

i found a twin turbo kit for my car and want to get it but will everything addapt to my car with out any major mods

 

[ramsack]

If I was a teacher I would be more impressed with a student if they spent almost that amount of money on a factory part (OEM turbo) rather than a crap kit to make some ghetto rigged pile.

 

[MightyMax88]

heres the link MITSUBISHI UNIVERSAL 16psi UPGRADE T04E TWIN TURBO KIT: eBay Motors (item 180543968257 end time Sep-06-10 17:26:37 PDT)

Not too much included in that universal kit... Honestly I'd look into what 99GST did and copy that setup, instead of wasting time with a kit like this. Plus, those are knockoff turbos... not worth it.

 

[99gst_racer]

Universal indeed. Funny that they don't mention any manifold details at all anywhere in that ad...

 

[MightyMax88]

Universal indeed. Funny that they don't mention any manifold details at all anywhere in that ad...

Wouldn't be "universal" if it came with a manifold

Only plus side to this kit is you could run one china knockoff turbo until it blew, and then run the other until it blew, though you'd probably save money buying cheaper china knockoffs individually, or a real turbo. Whichever one.

 

[ramsack]

A kit like that is meant for a v6, or v8. Something with 2 cylinder banks.

 

[HIGHPSI4]

Back to this 'universal kit'. It is just that, a PITA for all installs on all cars.

 

[nuclearr]

I like the piping kit there is not even enough to make it work. And it would be point less to run two large slow spooling turbos on our small 4 clys.

I do how ever think if you were going to run an ebay t3/t4 it would be a great buy for when the first turbo implodes in a week or two to have a spare .

 

[Thomas91169]

The whole education system is a racket. You need to go to school to get a piece of paper saying you can do something is crap. Experience is what teaches you. Kids who grow up around a garage and learn from doing and seeing their whole lives know more than people coming out of school, and are less cocky about it. They won't ever be given a piece of paper, but if the family has a reputable business there is no need.

so you gonna hire someone off the street just because they "say" they are experienced?

schooling (ie College or any post-college education) does show one thing; it shows you made a commitment to it and you saw it through. Not something everyone can say, and that tells employers you wont simply quit when things get a little bumpy.

sure, im all about experience, since i too have only a HS diploma, and see failures left and right with college degrees and whatnot. Lets also remember quite a many fields that need more than just experience, namely medical, law and emergency services. most of which you cant even get into unless you have something showing you have even the least bit of schooling to back up.

I like the piping kit there is not even enough to make it work. And it would be point less to run two large slow spooling turbos on our small 4 clys.

I do how ever think if you were going to run an ebay t3/t4 it would be a great buy for when the first turbo implodes in a week or two to have a spare .

hell, take all the parts of that kit, devide in half, label each as "honduh turbooo kit" and stick each on craigslist for $600 a pop. Instant profit.

 

[LiquidX]

Let's put the eBay sign aside. Now you get all I'd that stuff for $700 and whatever else with the most likely high shipping cost.

Piping, inter cooler, couplers and clamps, catch can, feed and drain lines, and not one but 2 turbos. My math may be off but that will make each turbo at most $350 but you have an intercooler core so take $100 for that. Now the turbos are at 300 each. Add in the piping, catch can, couplers and clamps, vacuum lines, drain and feed lines. That's easily $300. That drops the turbos to $100 each.

Really think the quality is that great? Better off using the kit for the ic kit and a temp turbo and replacement for when the first one blows.

 

[thomcasey]

Install a 3.0TT out of a 3000GT VR4 and then you will be on a roll!! If John Sheppard only needs one turbo to run 7.70, can't see where two would be a benefit considering the complexity of the exhaust manifold and such.

 

[Blackrose]

If you really want to be different do a twin scroll setup. I dont think there are too many of those running around here.

 

[xx1gdsm]

that ebay kit looked like garbage

 

[Ludachris]

Twin turbo/compound turbo set-ups on a DSM are almost purely ornamental. It's not going to yield better results than a single turbo set up, which can be said for any other 4 cylinder vehicle out there. They're kind of cool because you don't see them that often, but you will need to have a great deal of experience and knowledge to attempt such a project. If you're asking what mods you'd need you almost surely shouldn't attempt it.

 

[SpawnedX]

I say let him do it. Even though that kit is to seduce VR4 guys.

Look dude, based on your other posts, you shouldn't even be tinkering around with this idea. On top of it, I know for a fact that you would not get extra credit at UTI for attempting or completing this. In fact, you would get very minimal help even from the teachers on this.

If you truly go to UTI, then please, please tell me why you have no grasping on what you are trying to get into.

This is a help forum, yadda, yadda. So take this for what it is, brutal honest help. Drop this idea, go to our tech section and follow the upgrade path. No more trying to make 2 million horsepower when the biggest performance upgrade accomplished was a K&N filter.

 

[viprez586]

What would even be the true benefit of a true twin turbo setup on our motor?

Fast spool and no top end? You can do that with a T25, 13G, 14B, or 16G.

 

[nothingfiction]

i agree. given, i know very little about turbos...

i think the compound turbo i was reading about would be much better. Maybe that's just me tho.

 

[ramsack]

And most people with cars that come twin turbo make them to run 1 BIG turbo.

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[dented_coffee]

heres the link MITSUBISHI UNIVERSAL 16psi UPGRADE T04E TWIN TURBO KIT: eBay Motors (item 180543968257 end time Sep-06-10 17:26:37 PDT)

That kit kinda looks like its for the MITSUBISHI 3000GT. Just my own 2 pennies.

 

[ineedagsx]

so your going to try and spin each turbo with only 2 cylindars each? good luck with that i hope mitsu make something small enough... maybe an 8g turbo

 

[dsm-onster]

Compound setups run a relatively large turbo with a relatively small turbo. Compound turbo kits make the power of the big turbo potential but spool closer to the small turbo, and the powerband of Pauls 2.0L setup reflects it over 600whp with a 60-1 compressor and a powerband of a gt35r with a stroker.

In this case, both turbos are the same size. This kit is for a simple twin turbo setup. Which simply doubles the flow and about doubles the lag of each of the small turbos individually. Yes, you are better off with a turbo twice the size of those. Easier install. Same spool, same peak output.

 

[PurpSalad]

idk why but i feel like if a guy was to tell me "yo i just twin turboed my tsi with this plug'n'play kit off ebay" id wanna punch him in the head cause it sounds like bullshit. haha

 

[dsm-onster]

It's not about how you feel about it. It's about how feasable this is. Possibilities are endless, the reality of the results are clear cut.

 

[FluidKaos]

Wow. If you really want to make that "Kit" work as a true twin turbo, you'd first have to custom fab an exhaust manifold to hang 2 turbos from. On top of that, a new set of downpipes, and a collector if you want to keep a single exhaust, or a whole new exhaust system if you don't. Along with the new hot side, you'd need a new intake system, and airflow metering arrangement (SD maybe?), not to mention the retuning that goes with a new airflow metering system. While the "kit" comes with some tubing to run to/from the intercooler, it's just some "universal" bends, and not a plug'n'play setup, so you'd once again have to engineer some more bits. You'd also need to work out new lube system for the turbos. Sure is comes with some lines, but how are you going to plumb them? I'm sure I'm leaving out a few steps, but you get the idea. I'm not trying to flame you, just trying to give you an idea of what could be involved in trying to make it work.

With this "kit," IF you got it hooked up as a true twin system, you'd be lucky to spool those things by 6-7K RPM. The only way I could see a twin turbo setup even being some what useful on a small engine like ours would be to run tiny turbos like the little Mitsu TD03's that BMW uses on their #35i's. Even those are running on a 3l 6-cyl from the factory. And if you got a twin system up and running it would most likely be at little to no benefit, lots of headaches, and a sizable budget.

If you really want to pursue a true twin turbo setup for your car, good luck, I'd really like to see the results, but don't do it with some cheap Ebay knock-off parts.

 

[LunarEclips]

want a twin turbo setup? Buy a supra....simple as that!

And personally, i think compound setups are overrated as well (though i was quite impressed with Pual's setup).

 

[Misterbeechy]

yea man TT it!!! it will be awesome... not recommended but go ahead!!