Shifter Bushings [merged] ES symborski shifter plate metal urethane

[kdrkmstp]

Anybody have the rre's shifter bushing, I was wondering how that compared up to the symborski shifter bushing.

 

[jongreene]

Ive searched and searched but still have no definate answer to where I can get the little plastic replacement bushings for the shifter. Any help please

 

[Cs4g63]

Are you set on getting the stock replacement ones?

 

[wvturbo2]

extremepsi.com

 

[Cs4g63]

http://www.machv.com/symshifkit1.html
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/ecldrivetrain.htm
http://www.slowboyracing.com/shop.php?sid=&cat=4189
http://www.boneheadperformance.com/dsm/dsmclutchtrans.htm
All of these companies are good.

 

[jongreene]

If theres better options than just stock replacement ones...im interested. I just have loads of slop and its affecting my shifting. Thanks for all the links!

 

[romeen]

Are you talking about the ones for the shifter pivot or the cable ends above the transmission?

 

[Cs4g63]

If you dont want the metal bushings, and would prefer something better than stock, but something that still has a little give than check out the polyurethane ones at either road race or bonehead performance.

 

[MrBoxx]

I highly recommend metal shifter plate bushings. The day I put mine in was like driving a whole new car. They take all of maybe 25 minutes to install, and the difference between shifter slop and precise shifting is felt immediately. Add to it the underhood shifter/rollerblade bearing mod and you have a totally new experience. Then put in a B&M short shifter for more fun.

I got my metal shifter plate bushings from MachV, by the way. There's no way I would ever go back to stock rubber bushings.

 

[nightspeed87]

I highly recommend metal shifter plate bushings. The day I put mine in was like driving a whole new car. They take all of maybe 25 minutes to install, and the difference between shifter slop and precise shifting is felt immediately. Add to it the underhood shifter/rollerblade bearing mod and you have a totally new experience. Then put in a B&M short shifter for more fun.

I got my metal shifter plate bushings from MachV, by the way. There's no way I would ever go back to stock rubber bushings.

hmm.. thats good to know, think i may do that soon once i finish doing a short shifter.

 

[turbosax2]

I highly recommend metal shifter plate bushings. The day I put mine in was like driving a whole new car. They take all of maybe 25 minutes to install, and the difference between shifter slop and precise shifting is felt immediately. Add to it the underhood shifter/rollerblade bearing mod and you have a totally new experience. Then put in a B&M short shifter for more fun.

I got my metal shifter plate bushings from MachV, by the way. There's no way I would ever go back to stock rubber bushings.

I second this. When we put the Symborski shift kit on my brothers car it was AMAZING!! Say goodbye to mushy shifter feeling. Crisp shifts all around.

 

[romeen]

I have the Symborski kit as well. They really do make a significant improvement. Combined with the brass cable end bushings this setup has made my shifter very crisp and precise. I have used the rollerblade bearing mod as well. Works great. You have to grind down the outer diameter a bit to get them to fit but it's worth it.

 

[snowborder714]

+1 for the Symborski kit (http://www.machv.com/symshifkit1.html)! It's definitly worth the money and as said before, goodbye to sloppy shifts! I was starting to get mad because my 2-3 shift was always crappy but after I put this kit in, it just locked in! Also, I plan on getting the brass kit for the cables, as mentioned above (http://speed-source.net/products/shifter_cable.htm). I've read this set was a bit better than the rollerblade bearing mod, but is obviously more money. Either way, you can't go wrong!

 

[romeen]

+1 for the Symborski kit (http://www.machv.com/symshifkit1.html)! It's definitly worth the money and as said before, goodbye to sloppy shifts! I was starting to get mad because my 2-3 shift was always crappy but after I put this kit in, it just locked in! Also, I plan on getting the brass kit for the cables, as mentioned above (http://speed-source.net/products/shifter_cable.htm). I've read this set was a bit better than the rollerblade bearing mod, but is obviously more money. Either way, you can't go wrong!

Actually after I changed from the rollerblade bearings to the Speed Source brass bushings the shift effort became a little bit greater . I should have just stuck with the bearings. However now that I payed for these things I feel obligated to use them. The brass ones are fine (and definitely better than the stock ones) but the bearings work as good if not better and they're free. I think my subconscious is preventing me from going back to the bearings to protect my ego. Damn stubborn pride!

 

[csgsx23]

I just put in a Symborski Kit and the underhood bushings and its like driving a different car. There is almost no play, and it shifts much cleaner and with less effort. I would highly recommend them to anyone.

 

[Zmann42087]

These are the two most common suggestions...

Road/Race shifter bushings
Symborski shifter bushings

While either one of the above would be a great choice, I went with the Speed-Source shifter bushings. They are a local shop for me, so all I had to do is drive over and pick them up. No hassle, no shipping... I'm happy. They work great too. I installed them along with my genuine B&M short throw shifter a while back and the difference is night and day. Shifting feels super clean and crisp!

 

[snowborder714]

Actually after I changed from the rollerblade bearings to the Speed Source brass bushings the shift effort became a little bit greater . I should have just stuck with the bearings. However now that I payed for these things I feel obligated to use them. The brass ones are fine (and definitely better than the stock ones) but the bearings work as good if not better and they're free. I think my subconscious is preventing me from going back to the bearings to protect my ego. Damn stubborn pride!

Haha, I would probably do the same thing though. Thanks for the first hand opinion and I'll keep that in mind and maybe have to look into the bearing more!

 

[jongreene]

Yeah I have the underhood bushings and plan on getting the Symborski kit asap, but what about the THIN plastic disc like bushings on the shift lever itself? I wanted to replace those aswell.

Or will I even need to?

 

[Cs4g63]

Yeah I have the underhood bushings and plan on getting the Symborski kit asap, but what about the THIN plastic disc like bushings on the shift lever itself? I wanted to replace those aswell.

Or will I even need to?

I myself havent heard of where to get replacements for those plastic discs, but I wonder if you could just replace them with some metal washers.

 

[jongreene]

If i can replace them with metal washers, can someone who has done it chime in ?
Or anyone know anything about replacing the plastic disc bushings?

 

[romeen]

I wondered if that's what you might have been referring to when I asked my question in post #6. No I don't know of any replacements for the nylon end bushings for the shifter pivot. But I did notice that there was a little bit of space between the ends of the pivot and the housing which the shifter fits into so I placed a metal washer in the space before reinstalling the pivot bolt to take up the extra space. This will take away even more of the unwanted shifter movement but it will also increase shift effort a little due to the increased friction when trying to move the shifter.

 

[DSMunknown]

PM me if you're interested in a couple of metal skateboard bushings I have around.





FYI here is an install guide myself and Derek (brute) did a while back. (Post #22 and #58)

 

[jongreene]

I wondered if that's what you might have been referring to when I asked my question in post #6. No I don't know of any replacements for the nylon end bushings for the shifter pivot. But I did notice that there was a little bit of space between the ends of the pivot and the housing which the shifter fits into so I placed a metal washer in the space before reinstalling the pivot bolt to take up the extra space. This will take away even more of the unwanted shifter movement but it will also increase shift effort a little due to the increased friction when trying to move the shifter.

Thats exactly what I was talking about. What size washers did you use?

 

[UKNOWHO]

extreme psi.com sell brand new shifter cables for about 100 bucks trust me well worth it makes shifter feel like new car

 

[romeen]

Thats exactly what I was talking about. What size washers did you use?

It's been several years so I really can't be certain. If memory serves I believe the pivot bolt is 10mm in diameter. For the thickness of the washer the best way is to just get out your container of misc washers (we all have one) and try different ones out.

Another option is to use a 10mm nylon washer (most hardware stores should have them). This will take up the empty space but with less friction (I would think) than a metal washer resulting in smoother shifting. Next time I take my center console out I may just try it myself. Only concern would be how it would hold up after thousands of shifts.

Let us know how it turns out.

 

[jongreene]

Im sure like the stock ones they'll wear out sooner or later. Thanks for all the info!