Push Button Start (merged 11.07)

[Defiant]

Hooey. Hook up a keypad start like the BMW in "The Transporter".

 

[LightningGSX]

Originally posted by jrivard00
The constant power wire that leads to the lock cylinder is fused for 10amps. Yep, I didn't see the HVAC in the diagram the first time, but that can just be tied in to the engine on switch.

Hook it up and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[LightningGSX]

Voice recognition is rather easy these days, and you can get keypad controls in kit form for about $20.The coolest way to go would be RFID, you could have a credit card sized transponder in you wallet, that would allow the car to start only when the transponder is inside the vehicle.

 

[90DSMTurboFWD]

I recommend using a real ingnition push start button for this. If you use radio shack ones the spark ends up melting things. I went through about 3 buttons before I broke down and bought a real one for like 4 bucks

 

[jrivard00]

Yeah, I wouldn't use Radio Shacks stuff in my car. I was just looking at prices.

 

[mavisky]

Originally posted by LightningGSX
Voice recognition is rather easy these days, and you can get keypad controls in kit form for about $20.The coolest way to go would be RFID, you could have a credit card sized transponder in you wallet, that would allow the car to start only when the transponder is inside the vehicle.

that's exactly how the new cadilac xlr works, get near it and it unlocks, sit inside and the push button starter is ready for you to start the car the instant you press the button. no keys anywhere.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

wouldn't anyone be able to start your car? just get in and hit the button right?

(this is not pertaining to the cadillac style card in the later posts)

 

[My96]

technically yes but if most people get in and see the key hole fiberglassed shut with a bunch of switches a lot of people won't know what to do.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

i was looking on ebay liek a week ago and they had a switch for ignition and it looked like the cigarette lighter. you just pushed it ina nd it could start your car. that seems like the best way to go

 

[wishihadatalon]

don't systems allow you to make a sequence that you have to do before you can start the car. so if thats the case you could do your sequence and then push the button and nobody would know it but you.

 

[RipperXX]

Originally posted by Defiant
Hooey. Hook up a keypad start like the BMW in "The Transporter".

Now that sounds like the coolest and safest.. just dont let anyone see the ignition code.


Now how would you go about that?? because that would be wicked sweet to me.

 

[LightningGSX]

Keypad controllers are easy to make if you know digital electronics or they can be bought in kit form for $20-$30 from electronics suppliers like Jameco.Making it totally secure would be pretty difficult though.If any body wants to do it, I could show you how, or maybe I could whip something up.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

you could also hide a toggle switch that controls power to the push button start, beacuse without power to the puch button it wont be able to operate the ignition

 

[thekellbeast]

Couldn't you figure something out like the s2000 where you have to put in the key, then push the button?

 

[Raph]

^^^^thats what i was talking about,ive seen those S2000 style Starter button kits for about 130-140$ abnd u get a nice button that goes in your Cig lghter(replaces the Cig Lighter)

 

[LightningGSX]

$130-$140 for a "nice button"? People actually pay this?

 

[earz_93]

are these push button starter switches momentary or push on/push off?
if they are momentary, how do you shut your car off. if they are push on/push off, what disengages the starter? i've never actually looked into these.

 

[TSiAWD666]

They're momentary. The s2k kits don't have to be $130 (I've actually never seen them that high). You can get an OEM button for I believe around $30-40, and then a few bucks for wiring. I think www.honda-accessories.com has them for pretty cheap. I went with an Ignited push-button starter simply because someone was selling it for real cheap on the parts trader, hehe. The standard way to wire it makes it only send current to the starter if the key is in the ON position, and only when the button is depressed. Just like turning your key.

Now what I'd REALLY love to see if some info on how to get an RFID setup, or the keypad. How funny that this topic came up, as I was just thinking yesterday about planning the keypad. Anyone have any thoughts on a simple setup with a keypad with ignition disable if the code is entered incorrectly too many times? I'd hate to reinvent the wheel if someone's already worked this out

Hehehe, I can't believe someone actually looked at my gallery

 

[LightningGSX]

I just finished the design and testing of a keypad unit.I'll have the PC boards in about 4 days, I'll post plans and code, and you can get the boards from me or I can assemble them too.PM if you want to know more.

 

[LightningGSX]

It will be a "plug-in" installation(via TT harness) too.

 

[BlueTalon95]

The whole push button starter is pretty easy. Anybody who can install a remote starter can do it. Put a starter button on my friends jetta. We bypassed the ignition cylinder completely and used a sequence of hidden toggle switches to open the circuit to the button. Now he is is the only one in the world who can start his car. Except for me.. hehehe

 

[LightningGSX]

Originally posted by BlueTalon95
The whole push button starter is pretty easy. Anybody who can install a remote starter can do it. Put a starter button on my friends jetta. We bypassed the ignition cylinder completely and used a sequence of hidden toggle switches to open the circuit to the button. Now he is is the only one in the world who can start his car. Except for me.. hehehe

I'd bet I could start it.

 

[DSMJim]

You can buy that setup pre-assembled from http://www.ignitedperformance.com/index1.html

click on original push button

 

[LightningGSX]

Originally posted by DSMJim
You can buy that setup pre-assembled from http://www.ignitedperformance.com/index1.html

click on original push button

Or you could buy the same button (with no print) for $12 at digi-key.

 

[dmak]

it would be great if someone do a diy with pic on this!!
coz i don't really understand