1g Ignited Start button install - starter wire help!

[ClevSilverEclip]

OK, I'm 98% finished on my Ignited Engine-Start button install, with relay and all.

Going real well and really fast - and then I ran into the mother of all problems.



I guess I watch too much TV....there's always just a bunch of loose wires under the dash that you can pull and hotwire cars with on various shows.

When I opened the steering column on my 1g NT (Eclipse, GS DOHC, 1992), all I saw was a bunch of really well wrapped "conduits," and no readily visible nor identifiable START wire.

:laugh:

So, here's the question for anyone who can aid me.

I've found the individual leads for the lighted bezel around the lock cylinder. By following that toward the cylinder, it's relatively easy to figure out which bundled conduit must contain the proper START wire.

I'm assuming that once I cut open the rubber conduit, I should be able to easily find the wires leading to the mechanism........

But how do I identify which one is the actual START wire that I should be tapping into?

Thanks!

-A

PS: Newbie apologies if this has already been covered in a previous post....I've searched extensively to no avail.

 

[frigginlazer]

correct me if I am wrong, but the wire you are loooking for just trips a relay that energises your starter solinoid right? I would look for that relay, the run your own wire from your button to it.

Mike

 

[Nautica985]

use a multimeter and find the wire that has 12v only when the engine is cranking.

 

[ClevSilverEclip]

Thanks, all, for the input so far.

frigginlaser - I tried your suggestion, and for as good and logical as it sounds, for some strange reason, it didn't work. I actually tapped all THREE wires (black w/ white stripe, black w/ yellow stripe, black w/ red stripe) in sequence. Nada.

Nautica - I'm definitely going to go that route. I think that tearing away the column is the only thing for me to do now.

-Thanks for the help so far, brothas. Please keep any advice/suggestions coming!



-A

 

[i1nk83]

have fun idid this /or tryied to do this and it doesnt work quite like that. there are several wires thathave to be connected to get the engine to start. one that turns on the power to the dash/car, on that powers the fuel pump and one that actually engauges the starter. if you have a haynes/chilton manual you should be able to figure out which wires need to be connected it has pretty pictures and what not. good luck its a pain in the ass.

 

[Defiant]

http://www.ecanfix.com/users/manualcd/gift/dsm/1g_circuit_diagram.pdf

 

[ClevSilverEclip]

Defiant - Thanks!

i1nk83 - Talk about a pain! Especially as my circuit tester needs a new set of batteries (wife musta left it on when she was looking for an extension cord or something...drained.....).

Question for ya, though ----> I thought that by incorporating the physical ignition key, I wouldn't have to bother with things like the dash power, steering wheel lock mechanism, nor the fuel pump? I'm doing a simple ignition button, not a true push-button total-start. Am I (a FNG Newbie) completely mistaken?

Continued appreciation to all contributors!

-A

 

[ClevSilverEclip]

Update -

Got it!

Thanks to all who helped - definitely, the most useful was the wiring diagram.

Defiant (or anyone with similar), what's your source for that diagram? It was much more clear than the one in my Haynes manual, and I'd love to get a copy of whichever tech manual that came from.


-A

 

[w1kk3d]

It's the shop manual, they're pretty spendy, but sometimes you can find them on eBay for like $20-50.
Or order it on cd from Vineet and throw it on your computer and have full text searches at yer fingertips. http://www.ecanfix.com/~manualcd/

 

[ClevSilverEclip]

w1kk3d -

Thanks for the reply -- definitely a worthy investment that will return itself in terms of money saved many times over.

-A