obx FMIC kit

[nazthug]

ok, what happened to this company?

Since when does obx turn around from making rice parts to making LSD's, cams, manifolds, headers and NOW intercoolers, which are btw, EXACT replicas of APEXi????

I mean its almost as if they literally, take a product, CLONE it, and sell it for 1/3 the price

The products look nice, but WTF???

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how can you possibly do this? At these prices? Legally????

 

[Denji]

I understand where the guy is coming from with the "top of the line" parts. It comes down to what you want with your car for looks/performance. ***All numbers past this are made up*** X intake produces 10 horses for $100 while another company has Y intake that produces 18 horses on the same application for $200. So therefor X intake makes 1horse for every dollar spent, and Y intake makes 1.11 horse for every dollar spent. Obvisouly Y intake gives the best performace per dollar but inorder to increase the extra .11 horse per dollar there is an opportunity cost of $100. Someone that is just looking for per performance and money is no object then obvisouly Y intake is the way to go. But someone that wants an upgrade but doesn't have the extra 100 to step to the next level will obvisouly go for X intake because that item was aimed in his price range.

I'm not taking a stand on this specific OBX intercooler issue just trying to show you where i think that guy is coming from.


BTW if my post doesn't make sense its because i'm tired.

Thank you, this is exactly what i was trying to say. Nonetheless people think its somehow stupid. I never said the intercooler was good, i just said i want to see some proof that it sucks, and that it is indeed not worth the money, before i say i wouldnt get it.

 

[99gst_racer]

But someone that wants an upgrade but doesn't have the extra 100 to step to the next level will obvisouly go for X intake because that item was aimed in his price range.

This makes perfect sense. But what were trying to say is why not just keep saving a little more for that other $100 for get the X intake. You'd have a higher quality and better performing part, so not only would you be benifitting yourself, but you be helping our DSM vendors and the market in general.

I never just take X amount of dollars and see what I get for it. Instead, I figure out what it is that I want and I save for that.

 

[Denji]

okay, i think we have both had our points out, anything else should be over pm.. Lets keep the thread on topic, first person who gets this thing actually installed or at their house, please post.

 

[Shane916]

99GST_Racer : I wouldn't be talking so negatively about OBX if my car had altezzas and a double aluminum wing on it... but I bet they're from a company who did R&D testing ? Did you see a large gain on the dyno?..

 

[optimuspeterson]

99GST_Racer : I wouldn't be talking so negatively about OBX if my car had altezzas and a double aluminum wing on it... but I bet they're from a company who did R&D testing ? Did you see a large gain on the dyno?..

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don't be such a freakin retard. Obvisoluy he has different plans for his car than you. Not everyone wants to have a stock looking lowered 2g on "unkown springs/shocks." What, did your spring/shock combo come from ebay to give you the cool lowered look.

people like you are why threads get locked....

 

[98spydert]

99GST_Racer : I wouldn't be talking so negatively about OBX if my car had altezzas and a double aluminum wing on it... but I bet they're from a company who did R&D testing ? Did you see a large gain on the dyno?..

:laugh: you're such a punk shane, goin for a 4th rip intercooler rip off are we?

 

[Shane916]

don't be such a freakin retard. Obvisoluy he has different plans for his car than you. Not everyone wants to have a stock looking lowered 2g on "unkown springs/shocks." What, did your spring/shock combo come from ebay to give you the cool lowered look.

people like you are why threads get locked....

i see that you don't have an aluminum wing and altezzas on your car.. so why take it so personal? and the only plans I see for his car is to make it suitable for the Fast and the Furious 3. As for the springs and shocks, those came with my car and since I bought it from a dealer and I personally havent removed,replaced or inspected them, I am unsure of what brand they are. That's true not everyone wants a stock looking lowered 2g... but adding a double aluminum wing and altezzas is not the way to go. There's so much more in customizing...

 

[Thomas91169]

its his car. he likes it so leave him be. hell prolly wants to have a fast looking car that has the speed to back it up, something everyone says "you can only be all performance or all show, there is no best of both worlds".


ok sorry to bring this back. has anyone tried the obx fmic kit and driven it? im going to either go in 2 directions. i will either get the obx fmic kit for 500, or i will get the core for whatever it is(250) and do my own piping, since i can do flared ends now and i can pick up already bent mandrel tubing for cheapo. id rather not go through and make my own ic piping but being a dsmer is all about doing things the cheap way, and if it works then its done.



and about pricing. often people forget competition like this will dramatically lower prices for all the other IC kits. now greedy and apexi and spearco will have to try to get their prices low enough to not lose buisness from obx, while still make profit. they can do this by letting people know theyre still about quality not quantity, but still low enough to where youre like "well for 500 i can get this alright fmic, but 700 i can get this badass fmic that i wont need to upgrade later". this is GOOD for us and the industry. this will spark new developments. americans only want 3 things out of a product: FASTER, BETTER, CHEAPER. we want it cheap, we want it quality and we want it made fast. if the big names cant do that maybe theyre looking at the wrong place to do business.

 

[Denji]

99GST_Racer : I wouldn't be talking so negatively about OBX if my car had altezzas and a double aluminum wing on it... but I bet they're from a company who did R&D testing ? Did you see a large gain on the dyno?..

You know what im saying? Downs obx and apc, then has graphics, a body kit, altezza taillights and an aluminum spoiler and tells me about how to spend my money well!

None the less, im starting to think that noone is going to get this thing, noone has posted a single picture of it yet, not even in their own living room?! BUT again regardless, i think that obx is good for the industry. I dont care what companies are having problems, if they are worth the money over the obx, than people will continue to buy from them.

 

[99gst_racer]

99GST_Racer : I wouldn't be talking so negatively about OBX if my car had altezzas and a double aluminum wing on it... but I bet they're from a company who did R&D testing ? Did you see a large gain on the dyno?..

Thanks for your input. Your so original. I've never heard anything like this before. Let me keep reading.....

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In all honesty, I use on the best (IMO) performance parts for my car and I do my own work. Why would you car that I changed the appearence for show? OEM looking DSM's look kinda out of place at HIN shows. OBX has crappy workmanship, and thats why it's so cheap. (I know most of you dont like aluminum spoilers, but I feel this one that I have, flows well with my car. I hate most of the "bench" spoilers too) My spoiler is made by APR, which actually does test their spoilers. I'm not gaining any benifit from it other than the look, but that my opinion and my choice to have it there. And my taillights.... well, I dont like them either, but they look better on MY car better than the OEM ones did. WTF does OBX performance parts have to do with the appearance of my car anyway?

It used to be a fad to use the aluminum spoiler and altezzas.
Now it's a fad to bash everything but the stock look.
Either way, I dont follow fads. Rather, I make my car the way I like it. Period.

but adding a double aluminum wing and altezzas is not the way to go.

Wait........ Wait................ Keep waiting. Hold your breathe, I'll let you know when I start giving a $hit about your opinion...... Wait.......... Keep Waiting..................

You know what im saying? Downs obx and apc, then has graphics, a body kit, altezza taillights and an aluminum spoiler and tells me about how to spend my money well!

I dont like OBX and APC because of their piss poor quality. And yes, I have aftermarket, urethane bumper covers, an expensive aluminum spoiler, and a really nice and detailed custom paint job..... But like Thomas91169 said, I changed the appearance of my car because I enjoy taking it to car shows.

I fail to see any kind of point you turds are trying to make with the fact that my car has a car show appearance and the fact that OBX make shitty performance parts....


Nervertheless, I will add both of you to the list of morons that feel they have to get off topic and post their opinion of my car in a thread instead of PMing me, and will probably eventually get yet another thread locked. Congraduations both of you. :thumbdown

 

[blackGSX2g]

99GST_Racer : I wouldn't be talking so negatively about OBX if my car had altezzas and a double aluminum wing on it... but I bet they're from a company who did R&D testing ? Did you see a large gain on the dyno?..

Thats kinda hittin below the belt right there....its HIS car and it matches what HIS goals are for it.

Lets get this thread back on topic, and for ANYONE who has the IC...post up some pics that aren't from OBX. I want to see the IC that they actually ship out to people, not the one they decided looked the best and took a picture of.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

99gst_racer - you do you man, you made your car look the way you wanted to and it looks like you took the time and effort to do it right so more power to you. Some poeple are just haters dude. I am not a fan of the wing, and other accessories you have personally but i respect a job well done.

Denji - why don't you just go ahead and get one then if you are so confident in the superior quality and engineering behind OBX products?

 

[Denji]

Denji - why don't you just go ahead and get one then if you are so confident in the superior quality and engineering behind OBX products?

Dont go saying anything until you know how to read at least, not only did i post that i was not confident that it was good or bad once, i posted it twice

Quote #1 that goes against what you just said.

However, im not on OBX side completely either, i just want more facts before i go downing their intercooler. If it performs better than an upgraded sidemount, its perfect for me.

Quote #2 from my OTHER previous post that goes against what you just said.

I never said the intercooler was good, i just said i want to see some proof that it sucks, and that it is indeed not worth the money, before i say i wouldnt get it.

Cmon man, your just making yourself look bad now.

Also i would like to point out that i didnt resort to name calling once.. grow up 99gstracer.

 

[SikRacing97GST]

You guys make me sick (acting like a bunch of girls talking about make-up) I told you all the thing is here and the quality id rate it around 8.5 not exactly Apexi but same design very clean and built well, the welds are great. Im not sure what you want pictures of so let me know. Im not working this weekend so im hoping to have time to put this kit on. Now only if i can fix this oil leak
No need to argue; Id say this kit is worth the price, Not saying its the best but my friend with his 95 gst w/ 16g is running the apexi kit and was suprised by the quality of this intercooler. BTW: Not polished pretty plain -
--Tony

 

[98spydert]

This whole thread reminds me of the Johnny Race Car Intercooler thread. No one had it, everyone said it must be crap because of it's low price and the fact that it's on e-bay. Then, lots of people said screw it and bought one. There's probably 20 people in the thread who have it installed and don't have a SINGLE bad thing to say about it, just praise. Then there's STILL people saying it's crap when they have no freakin clue!

Just use your judgement, it you think it's worth the squeeze, give it a shot. You've already got some good feedback showing up for it and the shit talkers have never seen one in person so how can you take them seriously?

 

[99gst_racer]

Also i would like to point out that i didnt resort to name calling once.. grow up 99gstracer.

Who cares about name calling. You are trying to label me as a ricer because my car is set-up for show. Like I must not know what I'm talking about because I have an aluminum spoiler.... Like my car has anything to do with this topic anyway.... Maybe you need to growup, stay on topic and quit labeling people, before someone, someday labels you by calling you a cheap-ass. END OF DISCUSSION. I'd like to get this back on topic so it doesnt get locked. Thank you.

99gst_racer - you do you man, you made your car look the way you wanted to and it looks like you took the time and effort to do it right so more power to you. Some poeple are just haters dude. I am not a fan of the wing, and other accessories you have personally but i respect a job well done.

Thanks, Martin. I appreciate it.



SikRacing97GST - I have a few question for you, if you dont mind. I've seen (in person) the OBX core, but not the entire kit. Does it come with T-bolt clamps or hose clamps? How many ply is the silicon couplers? What diameter is the piping? What BOV is it flanged for? Does it also included a new 2.5" throttle bpdy elbow? Is the piping the short route or long route? Please describe the way it mounts to the car. Thanks -Paul-

 

[Shane916]

Thanks for your input. Your so original. I've never heard anything like this before.

Your welcome.

It used to be a fad to use the aluminum spoiler and altezzas.

And now its rice.

Now it's a fad to bash everything but the stock look.
Either way, I dont follow fads. Rather, I make my car the way I like it. Period.

All riced up.

Wait........ Wait................ Keep waiting. Hold your breathe, I'll let you know when I start giving a $hit about your opinion...... Wait.......... Keep Waiting..................

You don't have to care about my opinion, but everyone knows your car looks like rice.

I fail to see any kind of point you turds are trying to make with the fact that my car has a car show appearance

Haha.

Nervertheless, I will add both of you to the list of morons that feel they have to get off topic and post their opinion of my car in a thread instead of PMing me, and will probably eventually get yet another thread locked. Congraduations both of you. :thumbdown

I wouldn't be so harsh with calling us morons and it's Congratulations.

 

[99gst_racer]

This whole thread reminds me of the Johnny Race Car Intercooler thread. No one had it, everyone said it must be crap because of it's low price and the fact that it's on e-bay. Then, lots of people said screw it and bought one. There's probably 20 people in the thread who have it installed and don't have a SINGLE bad thing to say about it, just praise. Then there's STILL people saying it's crap when they have no freakin clue!

The difference is that OBX has been producing less-than-quality products for years so they are known for it.

and the shit talkers have never seen one in person so how can you take them seriously?

Like I've said twice, I have seen it and after owning a GReddy 24R and a SBR FMIC, I am completely convinced that this paticular OBX core is 1/4 of the quality of what I've used. Hell, I'm not against you guys. I'm just trying to stop you from making a $500 mistake. But by all means, dont believe me. I'm only one of the 2 people on this entire thread who has actually been in the presence of one. After you get it, you can finish your motor with a nice set of pistons and rods from APC.

 

[99gst_racer]

Your welcome.
And now its rice.
All riced up.

Rice comments are against the rules. If you cant glow up and follow the rules of the site, then please leave.

You don't have to care about my opinion, but everyone knows your car looks like rice.

Only you and a few other jealous people think so. Others respect it.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162804

I wouldn't be so harsh with calling us morons.

Truth hurts. Stay on the topic

 

[98spydert]

Like I've said twice, I have seen it and after owning a GReddy 24R and a SBR FMIC, I am completely convinced that this paticular OBX core is 1/4 of the quality of what I've used. Hell, I'm not against you guys. I'm just trying to stop you from making a $500 mistake. But by all means, dont believe me. I'm only one of the 2 people on this entire thread who has actually been in the presence of one. After you get it, you can finish your motor with a nice set of pistons and rods from APC.

First, compairing the greddy to SBR is just plain dumb. They're on different levels. One's an overpriced pos with a horrible design and the other is still overpriced but a very nice product as far as flow, efeciency, construction, proven numbers, and holding together. How many of those features do you know about the OBX core? You even said yourself you're more against the company than product. "I was not impressed even with the way it looked" yet it's the same design as the Apexi. What is not to like by "looking at it"? You know nothing about the core, whether it will hold together, nothing. I'm not defending the intercooler because I know nothing about it either but if you're going to give a review and back it up for PAGES, at least go more in depth than "It's hard to explain" and "You would have to be a part of the industry to understand."

 

[95Eclipsers]

HOW ABOUT someone get some damn pics of this thing installed, some sort of a report would be nice, lets not prejudge this thing, i mean its not the pretiest thing but it might work well lets just see.....

 

[Shane916]

Anyways, I am also interested in seeing pictures of the fmic installed.

 

[98turbo]

So, did anyone ever get any pics of this thing or what?

 

[Thomas91169]

apparently nobody has it or has a camera to load pics.

and im suprised defiant hasnt closed this yet.

 

[98turbo]

Well, hopefully he won't because the original thread hasn't been answered yet, just a lot of opinions....