obx FMIC kit

[nazthug]

ok, what happened to this company?

Since when does obx turn around from making rice parts to making LSD's, cams, manifolds, headers and NOW intercoolers, which are btw, EXACT replicas of APEXi????

I mean its almost as if they literally, take a product, CLONE it, and sell it for 1/3 the price

The products look nice, but WTF???

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how can you possibly do this? At these prices? Legally????

 

[danielbui]

i sell OBX here locally. what did you need to know?

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

Does anyone have any info or opinions on an OBX fmic?

there are a few recent threads about it you might want to check out. the threads are quite extensive too.

best of luck.

 

[98turbo]

i sell OBX here locally. what did you need to know?

I just wanted to know what needs to be done to install one and are they any good?

 

[SikRacing97GST]

Mine is on it's way, Tracking is telling me it should be here buy next wednesday

 

[Denji]

keep us updated.. this i am interested in..

 

[Shane916]

Mine is on it's way, Tracking is telling me it should be here buy next wednesday

did you order yours off ebay? if so which seller because i will be getting one very soon. Thanks!

 

[SikRacing97GST]

sparktecmotorsports_com

 

[danielbui]

i have had little feedback about these intercoolers. they are a universal fit intercooler and come in different sizes. they are a side to side type intercooler and haven't yet had a complaint, except that they are being bought out continuously because of the low price.

 

[skinnypimp]

i have had little feedback about these intercoolers. they are a universal fit intercooler and come in different sizes. they are a side to side type intercooler and haven't yet had a complaint, except that they are being bought out continuously because of the low price.

they have a kit for the 95-99 gst/gsx. i was thinking about buying it, but i'll stick with greddy

 

[ShapeGSX]

1. Maybe the other companies are just ripping us off? I mean when you can buy a PAIR of headers for a big block V8 at or below the cost of our headers, there is something wrong if you ask me.

Or maybe they just copied a product that a company spent a bunch of time and money on, using labor from China. Ever wonder why all that stuff in Walmart is so damn cheap?

 

[boostedgst2984]

let me know the reviews of your guys who are buy the obx ic kit off ebay cuz im looking into that as well. Im not going for ongodly power. I just need a fmic to stop detionation and increase boost. Let me know how the install goes and the first run on it. How you guys like it.

 

[SikRacing97GST]

I just got the kit in Today, UPS dropped it off a few hrs ago. Everythings here, looks great. I look foward to installing it either tommorow or friday, i'll let you know what i run into

 

[blackGSX2g]

Sounds good...could you take some good pics of the core? Like a view looking into it through the inlet.

 

[Street Surgeon]

The plot thickens...

 

[95Eclipsers]

Hurry get that F*cker on! i want all the details!

 

[PSIcho]

I just got the kit in Today, UPS dropped it off a few hrs ago. Everythings here, looks great. I look foward to installing it either tommorow or friday, i'll let you know what i run into

If you can posts some better close up pics that'll be great, before and after the install.

 

[joeracer321]

Sure the OBX intercooler will work, but it is not going to be as efficient as a better intercooler. It always comes down to you get what you pay for. I am sure if you wanted to make 300 HP or less it will probably work ok. But why do it twice, get a good one up front.

 

[Thomas91169]

i serously dont see why intercoolers are so freaking expensive anyways. when a big turbo that can put out 800cfm of air and hold up to 600hp costs 1000, but theres a intercooler that just lets air through to cool it down costs the same price, but only adds minimal gains. the companies are just ripping you off cause they know you want it and will pay whatever they sell it for. i have no doubts the obx one will perform just as well as its apex or greddy counterparts. its just a mass produced piece of radiator that air flows through, with 2 end tanks welded on and some piping, which might have cost 200 to put together. and as far as R&D goes, there aint much you can do with some pipe and a radiator.

 

[XtremeGST]

Alot of people when they buy a intercooler dont realize the quality.

~-Definition-~
Intercooler: A cooling device to lower temperature in a non-naturaly asperated vehicle.

What does this really mean? Give me Details!!

When a turbo or supercharger compresses air, the air is heated up. While this hot air can be fed straight into the intake of the engine (and often is), there are two disadvantages in taking this approach.

TELL ME MORE!

Firstly, warm air has less density than cool air - this means that it weighs less. It's important to know that it's the mass of air breathed by the engine that determines power, not the volume. So if the engine is being fed warm, high pressure air, the maximum power possible is significantly lower than if it is inhaling cold, high pressure air. The second problem with an engine breathing warm air is that the likelihood of detonation is increased. Detonation is a process of unstable combustion, where the flame front does not move progressively through the combustion chamber. Instead, the air/fuel mixture explodes into action. When this occurs, damage to the pistons, rings or head can very quickly happen (A.K.A. YOUR F*CKED!) So if your Engine can run cooler you will have a higher power output!

THE IMPORTANT STUFF!!

The Intercooler will do two things! Lower the tempurature of the air intake and (the big one) CAUSE A DROP IN BOOST!!

When u shop for a intercooler figure these out first!

Size of the intercooler (Ex. 15 x 18 x 3)
Then the Volume (Ex. 15 x 18 x 3 = 810)
Pressure Drop (this is the big one!)

The size inst always bigger because it can come more restrictive. Figure out how much HP u want to run and then find a IC that can handle it with low pressure drop, this will make your Turbo | Supercharger work easier and give it more life!

All in all! Find out the OBX intercooler details then compare it to a Apexi | Greddy | Sparco etc and ul find out just what you exactly want!

Enjoy this explanation! If you want i can try to post up a whole list of IC's for 1g | 2g and try to get there HP rating, pressure drop, volume and size.

 

[RamenPride]

i serously dont see why intercoolers are so freaking expensive anyways.

the companies are just ripping you off cause they know you want it and will pay whatever they sell it for.

my thoughts exactly. in some cases you can buy a complete running car for $1000, and they charge you that much just for an intercooler, end tanks, and some tubing...

 

[joeracer321]

i serously dont see why intercoolers are so freaking expensive anyways. when a big turbo that can put out 800cfm of air and hold up to 600hp costs 1000, but theres a intercooler that just lets air through to cool it down costs the same price, but only adds minimal gains. the companies are just ripping you off cause they know you want it and will pay whatever they sell it for. i have no doubts the obx one will perform just as well as its apex or greddy counterparts. its just a mass produced piece of radiator that air flows through, with 2 end tanks welded on and some piping, which might have cost 200 to put together. and as far as R&D goes, there aint much you can do with some pipe and a radiator.

Minimal gains! Are you crazy, you cannot have one without the other. Do you expect to have minimal gains from switching out your SMIC with a FMIC if you are running an 800 CFM turbo? The SMIC will be such a huge restriction alone, not including that you would heat soak it. Cores are expensive and if you don't have a factory to mass produce kits like OBX then it takes quite a bit of time to make the piping. So the prices are not unreasonable. If OBX actually started making good products, then I would say that these companies that make these kit have something to worry about, but as long as they are mass producing garbage I have no worries.

 

[tom1995tsi]

Some facts would be nice. Right now im pritty set on getting a JR fmic.

 

[99gst_racer]

Folks i would bet $100 with anyone that buys this thing and does a flow test against the Apex. I garuntee the core will not be as effecient.

I'd bet another $100.......

I'd rather stick with a good sidemount if i am on a 16g or t25/28.

Me too.

Even if it doesnt flow as much or isnt as effcient it is still $500.

Why would you ever waste $500 hard earned dollars on a piece of aluminum that doesnt flow and isnt efficient. Especially when you could spend another $350 and you could get something that has been proven many times to be efficient and flow well.

Sandals cost much less than snow boots, but if you're treading through 3 ft. of snow, wouldnt you rather have what works, not what's cheaper.....

compared to Apexi $850, Greddy $825, AGP $1000, SBR $1000.

I remember back when the GReddy and the Apexi FMIC's were both selling at $1000. Obviously the price has come down some. And I only paid $850 shipped for my SBR about 2 months ago. The IC piping is all 2.5" and the route is half as short as the the OBX design.

I'll bet OBX doesnt even have any flow numbers on their intercooler. And it's because they didnt do any R&D. They just copy a design and simply assume it will work. So they slap a lighter price tag on it and sell it to you; who simply assumes it will work. You see, they have identifyed their target market. It is the guys who dont care how it works or even if it works. They are targeting the guys who want a FMIC and are willing to safrifice quality and piece of mind for price. Well, I'm just proud to say that I'm not their target market.

 

[Shane916]

OBX's target market is for those who want performance without spending an arm and a leg. Although the Apexi might flow a little more then the OBX ...its not worth ANOTHER $400+ to me...

 

[joeracer321]

OBX's target market is for those who want performance without spending an arm and a leg. Although the Apexi might flow a little more then the OBX ...its not worth ANOTHER $400+ to me...

so you are in it for the look of a fmic rather than performance. thats your prefernence and there are many others like that, but for folks looking for good performance, the OBX should not be considered as an option.