Resolved Maximizer lsd install issues

[jesse12345]

So I recently got a maximizer lsd for my 95 talon 420a. The ring gear position is about half an inch off, so it doesn't fit properly in the differential. I have no idea if they all are like that but it's frustrating. If any of you knows how to get around this issue I'm all ears.

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[pauleyman]

Clarify yiur post doesn't make sense. That IS the differential so what does the post mean?Doesn't fit in the transmission??
I can't see the other diff fully. Location of the diff will be determined by the bearing not by the relative position of the ring gear mount from a flat surface. Are they the same? Can't tell from that pic.

 

[jesse12345]

There both sitting flat and when I put the ring gear on the maximizer one it sits further to the left in the transmission not even coming close to the right side. I couldn't find anything or anyone having this issue and the race can't be shimmed that much to fill in the space.

 

[97egl]

Not trying to blow you off at all but you may have better luck asking on neons.org The forum is not very active but I think it would be more likely that one of the guys on there has used this differential. Unless maybe @BLACK'98DSM has some insight

 

[pauleyman]

Better pics would help. Still can't see the problem in that pic. Yes I see the flange difference but can't see the bearings etc.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Take a new picture, with each differential being shown fully.

 

[jesse12345]

It's all good just trying to find out why it's like this the obx one looks like it's got the same spacing issue. If no one has any idea why it's like that I may slinky my way over to the neon guys.

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[BLACK'98DSM]

Did you say that's an OBX product? If so, that answers why it isn't fitting.

 

[jesse12345]

It's a maximizer I didn't go with the obx because I heard of the fitment problems for 480 bucks you'd think it'd be somewhat decent.

 

[97egl]

It's all good just trying to find out why it's like this the obx one looks like it's got the same spacing issue. If no one has any idea why it's like that I may slinky my way over to the neon guys.

Just dont tell them your an eclipse. Transmission is the exact same so no reason to stir that pot.

I made the mistake of letting them know that I was asking for an eclipse once and the thread took the usual name calling internet swirl down the toilet which somehow ended with racial slurs and a lot of homophobic innuendos.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

How much of the ring gear is in contact with the drive gear on the gearstack when you drop it in place?

 

[jesse12345]

I'll post up a pic of it sitting in place it's very odd. Thanks guys for all the help.

That's full contact with the drive gear I dont really have wiggle room but as you can see it's about a half inch off on each side.

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Super frustrating to say the least.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Umm... that's not an NVT-350 like the ones that come in the RS / GS hardtop models. Would you mind clarifying the specific model of your car?

 

[jesse12345]

It's a 95 eagle talon with an auto 420a

 

[jesse12345]

Manufacture date Dec. Of 94

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Ah. Auto. I rebuilt some NVT-350's nut never even laid eyes on the autos. Never had the desire to do so.

Are we sure that the same auto trans came in the Neons as the Eclipses?

 

[jesse12345]

I looked up the part number on the lsd and it says it fits the neon 95-05 and eclipse 95-99

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

I'd say, if the ring gear is fully in contact with the drive gear. And there's no side to side play. And the axles fit nicely without any play or excessive stretching. Just send it. If there's a problem it will be very obvious the first time you drive it. Unless it's only slightly out of tolerances. Then you'll find the metal shavings in the fluid and see progressive issues.

 

[jesse12345]

Honestly I would send it if it actually bolted in. The right side isn't even in contact with the bearing (look at the picture not even touching) and the left side won't even sit flush since the ring gear is moved half an inch to the left. I bet money this thing only fits manuals but they say fits auto's to. Thanks for all the help I'm guessing hardly anyone builds these things with the auto.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Um yea I'm willing to bet the autos and manuals have completely different differentials. You should contact the seller and see which one they specify it fitting. Here's a pic of mine from the manual version:

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[jesse12345]

Dang man they probably don't even have one for an auto . I wanted to rip the auto a bit and see what it could do. Looks like I'll be manual swapping if that's the case. This thing had zero traction on 10 pounds so it needs an lsd.

So thats why when everyone asks how to install alot of the posts said just split the case and here I am like you mean take the diff cover off. Lol

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

This is something I do not recommend doing by any means. But if you really do plan on manual swapping, you could in theory get the diff welded. Your turning radius would suck, you'd eat through tires, and you risk breaking other components of the trans at a high stall. BUT, it would be fun for a little while so you can source an NVT-350

 

[jesse12345]

Yeah im for sure going to manual swap I highly doubt the auto will hold up. Maybe I'll weld her up rip it a bit until I do get a manual. This auto will be the death of me.

 

[BLACK'98DSM]

Props to you for dealing with the auto thus far. Most people including myself will just never have one from the beginning. At least you gave it a shot. Let us know what you decided to do and keep the build thread updated

 

[jesse12345]

Right on thanks man . Yeah I'm assuming no one touches the autos I'm gonna send it with the auto and then swap to manual. Thanks everyone for the help.