Lifter Issues after machine shop service

[dugan33]

Hey, I had weavers "machine" the lifters and bleed them upon rebuilding the rest of my 1g 6 bolt head. most everything was replaced/machined other than the valves which were just cleaned up. I inquired about what should be done about priming and they said I don't have to do anything prime the motor. All I did since the bottom wasn't new was turn it over a few times with cas unplugged to get pressure up top. So did they mess up bleeding my lifters or what? some are very tight while others are very loose. What should they be like? It's making an awful noise.... worse than typical lifter tic for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HJjIof2SOc&list=UUoBWFVNiWcQoOgFOTM6WEzA

 

[dugan33]

`here's the noise in action

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[Dsmkauai]

I would reBleed your lifters bro!! Don't expect Somone else to do it, plus how long ago did they supposedly do it? Why so much work to the head? Why would they need to machine the lifters? Did you have the cam journals done to? Somtimes you have to run it abit and they will quite down!

 

[dugan33]

I got the head back last week. They polished the 264 crower cams and I believe the cam journals were done too since they installed the cams. I paid about $400 total parts supplied.

 

[donniekak]

How long has then engine been run for? New lifters, or lifters that have been bled tick pretty bad for 10-15 minutes.

 

[dugan33]

Only a min tops. It sounded so bad I thought it was causing damage. I think I'll pain my way through it and see if it gets better. The car never even got up to temperature.

 

[rough]

I know using this will take the tick noise away!

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[Dsmkauai]

Ya sounds like you need to try running it alittle longer. They should pump up and get quite after 10-15 min like Donnie was saying!

 

[JacksonAuto]

Why did they machine the lifters? If they didn't replace any valves then the heights would have remained the same and there should have been no need to machine the lifters.

Lifters should pump up after just a couple of minutes. Noise after that amount of time is usually indicative of a different problem.

 

[Dsmkauai]

^ that's what I wanted to know!! Lol sounds sketchy to me and probably why your clunking so much. I would take it back!

 

[Diamond Star Werks]

(1) You don't need engine restore. That only be for dirty lifters. (2) I don't know why they machined the lifters or if they did. They may have just sold you on that but didn't actually have to do it. (3) I cleaned and bled the lifters in my 2.4 according to factory procedure and they ticked till 2nd day running. (4) If you only let it run a minute that's not long enough. Generally they should quite in 5-15 minutes. Every situation is different however.

 

[NY 95 TSI AWD]

About 10-15 minutes until mine shut up. It was pretty loud at first.

 

[dugan33]

The noise has reduced to the typical dsm lifter tic. It's still bad but not nearly as bad. I let it run up to operating temp. The local weavers said the lifters were all smooth and nothing was done to them actually. They charged for machine lifter but was actually cam grooves or something else can related they did. They told me that they only put minial amounts of oil in them for priming and don't take then apart at all.

 

[arrowhead]

I would not trust their explanation, I think they are giving you a run around.
I agree with JMS, do a compression test just in case, lifters should not take that long to pump up.

 

[kchaazz]

I had a set of 3G lifters that I had bought new and then they sat for a couple years after I put around 30k miles on em. When I decided to use the lifters in a new build, I soaked and cleaned them and primed them, but when I fired up the motor they would not stop ticking no matter what I did so I decided to buy a new set.
When I change lifters, I fire it up, let it idle about a minute, then just take it out for a gentle drive, around 3k rpm for about 2 miles, came home and theyre all quiet.
Try taking it for a drive to put some load on everything and then check it out. I know its apples to oranges, but the Mitsu Montero uses hydraulic lash adjusters as well, and in the manual, it is very specific that you have to load the motor and gradually ramp up rpm to 3.5k or so to get the lifters to shut up.

On another note, I would never consider myself to be an expert, but I can honestly say that I have never heard of machining lifters in any situation, so I dont know what the hell they are referring to...

 

[Dsmkauai]

So they didn't bleed the lifters correctly before install from what it sounds like. That's really lame bro! Sounds like a load of b.s.