Junk Electric Supercharger or Turbo [Merged 1-7] intake fan gimmick

[dTERM]

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/


Anyone used this? They claim 5-15 HP gains...even on an already compressed intake system. 1-3 pounds of boost from an electric fan for $300. Let's hear it, anyone got one, anyone got pics? Howabout dyno test scores? The ones on the web site look good...but they ARE selling it.

 

[tenn-gsx]

POS gimmick that wont do crap!!!!!!!!!!!! Leave it for a honda guy to waste his time and money with.

 

[leet]

Sweet, 2-3 PSI.

 

[hypnoticpimp]

Maybe if you buy two and connect them together you might get 4- 6 psi...

 

[Gee-Es-Tee]

Maybe if you buy two and connect them together you might get 4- 6 psi...

or three and get 8-12 psi!

 

[talonalex92]

Would that be a super lame way to spool a huge turbo before a high rpm?

 

[magik95]

Me and a friend were talking about ram air systems for turbo cars, discussing different was to force cold air to a turbo.

So I brought up the idea of putting a electric turbo or some sort of small puller fan to pull the cold through the intake.

My question is can this work or just scrap the idea. Here are some questions we thought that mighty be suspect with this idea.

1. It would be too much pressure through the mas?
2. Cause tunning issues beacuse of the massive amount of air.
3. Compressor surge?

Any more input on this?

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[greddyturbo19]

My Friend Had Some Type Of Fan Or Something In His Intake And He Kept Telling Me It Was His Turbo. It Was A Vw I Was Like Bull Shit!

 

[magik95]

They have electric turbos that can put out 2-5 or pounds. They have enough sucking power to callapse a soda can.

 

[forcefed4]

Scrap the idea. An electric powered fan would not move enough air to produce anything of significance, powerwise. The only way it might work is if you got a very powerful (read EXPENSIVE) motor, and fan (no, a normal fan blade or the "wheel" stlye blower would not be able to produce any significant pressure in the intake). The current draw on such a setup would only allow you to run it for a few seconds before you ran out of battery power.

 

[GSpikeX]

Scrap the idea. An electric powered fan would not move enough air to produce anything of significance, powerwise. The only way it might work is if you got a very powerful (read EXPENSIVE) motor, and fan (no, a normal fan blade or the "wheel" stlye blower would not be able to produce any significant pressure in the intake). The current draw on such a setup would only allow you to run it for a few seconds before you ran out of battery power.

Couldn't of said it better, I think most dsmers can agree that we aim for power not efficiency but is still very interesting.

 

[whitehawk]

What about ram air induction will that help us any???

 

[knochgoon24]

I've been planning a ram air duct as soon as I get my FMIC. I'll fiberglass it where the stock SMIC went and up through the SMIC hole. Not sure how much it will help ramming the air (up to an enclosed air box around the filter) but it will def lower my intake temps (I have a open filter under the hood). I figure I'll have to take it off in the winter to keep from filling the box up with snow. I live in Erie, PA 9 months out of the year.

 

[jlr2196]

If you installed a ram air system it would only make a difference if you place it between the intercooler and throttle body. Directing it into the air filter which then goes into the turbo and heats it back up, you wouldn't be accomplishing anything, that is why we run LARGE FMIC. Why wouldn't you just run one of the kits they have out to mist the intercooler with LN2 or whatever it is they use? That would make more of a difference than anything.

 

[Jeff99GS]

I think the fan would actually cause restriction in the intake tract.

Maybe Try a Leaf Blower !

Im kidding for those of you who take me too seriously. DO NOT try a leaf blower

 

[Rob10_99]

One of those gas powered leaf blowers would work sweet, for NA.

 

[Gstclipse69]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/bolt-tech/298216-cold-air-intake-project.html
Read this thread. It is very informative and includes links to other tech cold air intake projects.
Interesting about the fan but scrap the idea. A cold air ram intake for a turbo car will make a difference. Yes compressed hot air from the turbo is hot but reducing the initial intake temperature is well worth it.
If nothing else, blocking the hot engine bay air off from the intake filter can drop intake temps 30 degrees. Proven.

 

[mattdev]

Sorry to contribute to the tangent, but I'm sure you've all seen this leafblower dyno run...

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They have the ads for "electic super charger" in the back of motor trend, etc. (right next to the male enhancement ads (enough said)). It's the same idea; a fan that you place in your intake pipe to "compress" the air.

Scrap the idea. An electric powered fan would not move enough air to produce anything of significance, powerwise. The only way it might work is if you got a very powerful (read EXPENSIVE) motor, and fan (no, a normal fan blade or the "wheel" stlye blower would not be able to produce any significant pressure in the intake). The current draw on such a setup would only allow you to run it for a few seconds before you ran out of battery power.

Dead on...

 

[RallyEclipse98]

And everyone has seen the pic of a honda with a turbo sticking out of a cut open hood with the air intake and filter shoved up in the air. Unless you can find a way to harness enough power out of something to produce much greater airflow than driving down the road at ###mph., no.

This thread is a much better one than I thought it would have been when i clicked on it.

 

[magik95]

I pretty much ran all the scenarios of the failure on this thought. It was a interesting thought but I know realistically its a Fail.

If theres still some input on this topic feel free as I know there will be. The leaf blower is funny as shit!
Glad you put the little Dont Do It clause in there!

 

[Supa Dexta]

You'll find more gains by making sure the incoming air is as cold as it can be, then trying to design ram air. Getting your air filter out of the bay, or shielded from heat as best you can will do you right...

 

[magik95]

You'll find more gains by making sure the incoming air is as cold as it can be, then trying to design ram air. Getting your air filter out of the bay, or shielded from heat as best you can will do you right...

Yea.. I was thinking of making a box and tube set up that draws air from the front of the bubmer, like a few people do.

I already started to make mine. Would a completely closed off box be more effective than a box that just sheilded the filer? Of course the box would have the tube connected.

 

[livedsm4g63]

funny story about the whole leaf blower idea,

at the school i go to for automotive high performance, we decided to do a leaf blower on a dyno. if i had the charts i would show you. Nevertheless it picked up 2 horsepower on high, haha and about .75 on low.

We tested a lot of theories in that class, and came to the conclusion. Cheap is not the way to go.

 

[SLOsClipse]

Probably a very stupid question/comment... If you were to modify and put this onto your air intake @ a y split w/airfilter? What would that do? if anything? kill your engine? nothing? this is just another "Ebay add HP Scam" orrr..... it might help due to getting more forced air??.. or does this not even work with a GST?

Turbo Boost Intake Electric Supercharger+3" Air Filter - eBay (item 290530633574 end time Mar-05-11 16:55:00 PST)

 

[agentorange313]

i think that the compressor blades of the turbo are spinning faster than that fan. In addition I also think that a turbo compressor moves more air than that dc fan.

I think you would suffer if you put this before your turbo.

seems like it would only help a NT

 

[tips000]

youve got to remember that these advertise 250cfm and your engine pulls more than that at 1/4 throttle... i am new to the 4 cyl. engines but in my opinion these are a waste of time,,,, i do however think that it is a good idea and as technology advances they may be able to push alot of air with tiny electric motors