Installed superbright red LED's in my cluster and switches

[Project2G]

Look's good. I too have the silver face from the 99. Wish I could do the swap to red led but just to lazy.

 

[Dr Funkenstein]

Wow, I really need to swap out my dome light, step light and glove-box light with white LEDs. Looks amazing in that 2G, so it should look awesome in my 1G too!

 

[rodent]

I understand u can't do blue. I planned on changing the guage faces soon and still do. But I took my needles off....... which I guess was a bad idea. And no I never tested in house only in the car I didn't follow ## thread I follwed another. Guess I learned my lesson any advice?

DSM!

Not sure what else it could be. You can try another cluster. I have one I could sell you.

 

[EagleTSIawd]

Just thought I point this out:

I followed this thread and i too went ahead and did the red LED cluster lights but came across the problem of not being able to see the redline when on. I have a 2ga cluster and apparently the 2gb clusters have a thicker red line.

Anyways, I wasn't going to go and buy a new cluster so I went evel knievel and scrapped off the redline hoping not to ruin my cluster and this is what i got!

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... behind the black paint there are thicker red lines.

I know it doesnt look entirely perfect (because I scrapped off too hard on the first few tries) and it doesn't look like the 2gb cluster but definitely better. Had I been super gentle I am sure it would have came out perfect.

 

[kdiddy01]

u hav no idea how long i been lookin 4 someone 2 show me how 2 change those damn bulbs...thanks alot

 

[69_luv]

Here is what bulbs we used and in which locations.
Foot wells - WLED-WHP9-T
Glove box - WLED-WHP9-T
Map lights (non-sunroof) - 3710-CWHP3
Map lights (sunroof)) - 4210-CWHP3
Trunk - 3022-CWHP2 (required a little modification of the light receptacle and a bit of denting of one end of the bulb)
License plate lights - WLED-WHP5
Reverse lights - 1156-W24

Ok for the life of me I can't find the 4210-xWHP3, I have found CWHP3's, and, WWHP3's, but all that annotates is cool white vs warm white. The other ones I found are the P6's that have 6 led's instead of 3. Just curious as the 4210's are high powered 8-30vdc, why the need for higher powered?

Ok so next question is on 2g instrument cluster. I ordered a couple bulbs to see what color to go with and I noticed that the center bulb behind the speedo is larger than all the other bulbs and a 74 is just a little to small to stay in it. Does that mean its most likely a #194? Also is the bulb that is under the automatic shifter also a #194?

For anyone that is looking at doing this its incredibly simple, but unless you want to have a lot more work for yourself stick with the Red LED's. The blue ones look great in the HVAC but in the instrument cluster for me they turn purple (I have the stock silver/white gauges).

 

[snowborder714]

Ok for the life of me I can't find the 4210-xWHP3, I have found CWHP3's, and, WWHP3's, but all that annotates is cool white vs warm white. The other ones I found are the P6's that have 6 led's instead of 3. Just curious as the 4210's are high powered 8-30vdc, why the need for higher powered?

4210-xWHP3 - Super Bright LEDs ? Festoon Light Bulbs

We got the Cool White color, so the part number should be 4210-CWHP3. I'll go back and correct all posts around this. Sorry about that - the e-mail receipt had the 'x' instead of the 'C' for some reason.

As for the higher powered question, I have no idea. We like bright lights?

 

[okcpopeman]

What is a good LED to use to replace the 194's in the 1G cluster? I saw this...

74-xHP3 will replace the 194's

but it doesnt make sense to me as that is a bulb to replace a 74.

Edit: would a WLED-xHP5 be a good choice?

 

[Frosted_Ankh]

how do you remove the old bulbs from there holder i can barley get my fingers on it

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

how do you remove the old bulbs from there holder i can barley get my fingers on it

Needle nose pliers

 

[Frosted_Ankh]

that would break the bulb but i got them out using a automotive needle pen

 

[mistagst]

does anyone know what bulb is under the auto shifter? mine just went out

 

[agarc023]

It's not hard to get out of there. I tore mine out like 2 years ago and replaced it with a short white led strip

However, I don't remember off the top of my head what bulb it was. I can take a look at it when I get home around 1 if you want. (Yes I think I still have it)

 

[mistagst]

you'd be my hero

 

[agarc023]

Pretty sure it was a plug like that. Says 158 on it

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[Frosted_Ankh]

so my bulbs are not working what could the problem be the work when connected straight to the battery but not when plugged in.

 

[gsxSK]

Looks good!

 

[MaKaPhiLLy]

so my bulbs are not working what could the problem be the work when connected straight to the battery but not when plugged in.

If your bulbs arent working try pulling them out and turning them around or push them in farther or pull them out a lil bit... when i did mine i had to do this at least a few times...

 

[phaseoneracing]

looks real good man

 

[Calan]

For those interested in more 1G info and something a little different...

I'm currently working on a multi-color cluster (white needles and odometer, blue/red faces), and all of the HVAC and accessory lights for a 1G. I'll post a tech article or some info in this thread once it's complete.

Here's a preliminary pic of a test cluster (still on the workbench while eliminating hot spots, etc):

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[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I forgot one more bulb. The ignition key light. Just took my column apart and verified it is a 74 bulb with the yellow/orange condom. I thought there might be a bulb needed for the dimmer but I searched and found that somebody took his dimmer apart and verified there was no bulb in the dimmer.

Here's the total number of bulbs needed and options you have.

11 total LED's needed (74-xHP3 Wedge Base LED bulb)
Includes:
Cluster (7)
HVAC (1)
Lighter (1)
Ashtray (1)
Ignition (1)
Spare (1) - optional
(12 would be needed if you got a spare)

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Part number 74-RHP3
(R=Red)

Switches- 6 total LED's needed (NeoWedge 3mm Instrument LED bulb)
Includes:
Cruise Control (1)
Fog Lights (1)
Mirror Control (1)
Hazards (1) -optional
Defroster (1)
Wiper (1)
AC (1)
Spare (1) -optional
(8 would be needed if you got the spare and hazards)
Also remember, the defroster has 2 bulbs. One for the light, one for the indicator. If you want the indicator to light up red (or a different color than amber) you would need another Neo3 bulb for that (9 total for all options).

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Part Number: NEO3-R
(3 = 3mm, R= Red)

More options:
2 standard LED's for the cruise on/off lights. These will need to be soldered. Can be purchased from RadioShack or superbrightleds.com.

can i use the high power smd neos as there 6 lumen and not 2 lumen like the normal neos! but im not sure if they will have enough power to work!

 

[dropped99gs]

Does anyone have any info as to what the results will be using the white face gauges like the ones that came in my 99 gs anniversary edition??? I would really like to have blue or white lit gauges. Honestly I do not feel comfortable removing my gauge faces and sanding them down due to the face you have to remove the needles. I was really looking mine over the other day and I think blue or white leds would words in the cluster. Im thinking either white cluster and blue interior lighting, or the other way around. Would be nice to see the results that someone else has done to theirs already. I know someone out there has done this to either a dsm or another vehice, but how about a few leds under the hood so that when you pop the hood they come on. I mean you would need a switch similar to the one used for when your door is open and the lights come on, just wired to lights mounted in a specific area, and wire them to a power source.

But seriously, if anyone has any info on adding leds to the white faced cluster please let me know.

 

[Calan]

Honestly I do not feel comfortable removing my gauge faces and sanding them down due to the face you have to remove the needles.

It's really not that big a deal at all. Just use a fork and be careful when you pull the needles, and install the cluster without the clear plastic so you can be sure they are correct before pushing them back on.

There's nothing to sanding the backs of the face plates. Just patiently wetsand with some 320, followed by 600.

Look around for a broken cluster to experiment on. They should be easy to find for dirt cheap.; maybe just for the cost of shipping if it's broken.

 

[t25fury]

For those interested in more 1G info and something a little different...

I'm currently working on a multi-color cluster (white needles and odometer, blue/red faces), and all of the HVAC and accessory lights for a 1G. I'll post a tech article or some info in this thread once it's complete.

Here's a preliminary pic of a test cluster (still on the workbench while eliminating hot spots, etc):

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this looks absolutely beeeutifull ! keep us updated on that tech article !!

 

[2slow4now]

It's really not that big a deal at all. Just use a fork and be careful when you pull the needles, and install the cluster without the clear plastic so you can be sure they are correct before pushing them back on.

There's nothing to sanding the backs of the face plates. Just patiently wetsand with some 320, followed by 600.

Look around for a broken cluster to experiment on. They should be easy to find for dirt cheap.; maybe just for the cost of shipping if it's broken.

I just guessed when I put mine back together knowing I could always change the needle position and my car would do 45mph while sitting still.

You only have to sand the laminate where you want the light to pass through. The cluster is somewhat delicate. If you do screw it up just get a replacement and use your old one for experimenting on.