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2G Innovate gauge wiring

Posted by Type1DSMr, Jun 3, 2015

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  1. Type1DSMr

    Type1DSMr Proven Member

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    I'm trying to install two innovate gauges, one wideband and the other a boost gauge. I'm using the same power locations as the old gauges were used in the fuse box. However, those were installed by the previous owner and I thought I had it right but my gauges constantly have power. My question is why would they be powered up with the car off? Thanks for any help.
     
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  2. Dsmkauai

    Dsmkauai Proven Member

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    Because your tapped into a fuse that goes directly to the battery. You need to tap into a fuse that is only ignition hot. Meaning only on when the car is on, like the radio. Easy way to tell is get a multi meter and check.
     

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    I found it easy to tap into the cigarette lighter for my power
     

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  4. Type1DSMr

    Type1DSMr Proven Member

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    I tapped into the same spots as the old gauges that worked correctly for over a year. Either way I'll look into a different fuse or the cigarette lighter. I just thought it was odd since it was the same as the old ones.
     
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  5. ec17pse

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    The wideband also likes its own power source! I found this out as mine kepts flashing 7.4 and nothing else! Felipe from innovate said give it its own power line and it will work. And he was right. Tap nothing from it or into an existing drain and you will also help yourself out
     

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    odd, I have mine powered off switched accessory (lighter socket) and have no issues even when I'm using an Rosewill inverter to charge the laptop battery.
    I probably should put it on its own dedicated, though, just because of the 15A fuse limit. There should (read: must) be enough filtering in the gauge electronics to overcome fluctuations in the line caused by accessories. I mean, it's automotive certified electronics, it has all sorts of noise/transient/ripple/dump problems to filter out just in normal vehicle operations.
     

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    Yeah i mean i must have been on a line that was not giving it enough power with another hooked up to it but im not saying everyone will be the same but rather just listing it as a possible issue, i did not want to tap into the lighter power as ive never liked to do that unless i have no choice to.
     

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    I tapped my power source of the fuel pump circuit. I dont like the gauges to be powered up when the key is on the ACC position when tapping from the cig lighter.
     

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  9. Type1DSMr

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    Well I switched the wiring to the fuses around because the white wire was in a fuse and the red wires were in a different fuse spot. Everything seems to be working now and I got the wideband to sim front o2, ecmlink reads correct at around 14.7 at idle. However, my 3 pod a pillar doesn't hold the gauges in the best. Does anyone know which gauge cluster works with innovate gauges? I would like to have the one that goes on the instrument gauge cluster but only if they fit snug.
     
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    I have mine In a 2 gauge pod around my cluster. Fits perfect and I got mine from glowshift.
     

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    Awesome thanks, that's the one I'm wanting.
     
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    Just put tape around the gauge to tighten it in the hole, or only on half if its too big wrapped all the way. I personally have a glowshift pillar pod and my LC1 fits in there good.
     

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    Does anyone know where to connect the red wire for the tach signal? Instructions saya negative lead of a coil, ecu, or of an injector. Which would be easiest?
     
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    Would I splice into pin 58 for the tach signal for the shift light on the innovate boost gauge or somewhere else?
     
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    Any help would be great on shift light wiring.
     
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    Oh I've already got the wide band hooked up right with ecmlink even perfect numbers between lc2 and afratioest lined up even. My question is on the boost/shift light, it has a plug in with red wire for tach signal and need to know which pin I tap into for the tach signal? Is it pin 58 on a 2g ecu?
     
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