Hit A Curb [Merged 12-8] curbed

[DULUTHDSM]

So it was wet out, in a best buy parking lot and no cars around at all. So i decide to do some drifting. Except i think i went a lil over board because i kept sliding until i hit a curb () I hit it straight on. No flat tires, but the right side of the car seems to be affected. When i start it up in the morning now it sounds like metal clattering together by the right side of the wheel. Also, it feels like something is rubbing when i'm going between 0-30mph. Can feel it by how the steering wheel feels (know what im saying?) Any help would be great!

Thanks
-Jason-

 

[2FastForU]

Yesterday I was taking a right-hand turner on a 2 lane road; I was on the outside lane and there was some car on the inside lane. I was going about the speed limit (25 mph), when the car on the inside lane started accelerating and merging into mine lane, apparently without checking their blind spots. To avoid him hitting me (he did it really jerky), and I guess it was my natural instinct too - I swerved to the left and hit my brakes. The road was wet and slick and my tires locked up right away, and i skid into one of them yellow barrier curbs. I actually mounted it (it ended up right under my car). I have no idea how I managed not to scratch anything underneath my car, but I did brake my wheel and bent the hell out of my suspension, check out these pics:

This is how my wheel broke:

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This one is insane: my whole assembly actually bent during the impact, so much that the wheel hit the inside of the wheel well - that's like a 5" bend right there. And then most things popped right back into place! Well a little bent, but on most cars when they get into these kinds of accidents I've usually seen lower control arms break. Also, note that my shock is leaking shit now - it didn't do it before.

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This is the lower control arm that got really bent. Usually it's like a 120 degree bend - here it's like 90 degrees. The result - the whole hub assembly is shifted like 3 inches towards the back of the car (so if you put the wheel on - it almost rubs against the body). It's insane it didn't break.

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Here you can see the sway bar linkage is bent. It's amazing the ball joints held up. I'm guessing the sway bar is bent too, just not really visible:

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Here you can sort of see the axle rubbing against the the Y-fork on the bottom of the shock. I'm amazed that after this impact, my axle was just fine and it still cleared most things.

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After the impact, I had to put on my spare at night in the rain on the side of the freeway with half my car sticking out onto the lane (there was almost no shoulder). I drove home about 40 miles (30 of which on the freeway going 60mph) with this whole fked up assembly - my car wanted to steer to the right so bad. I'm really amazed at the quality of these components and how well they held up.

Anyhow, I have comprehensive insurance and me and my family we've paid $20,000 to Allstate EASY for our house and cars and we've never had to file a claim. So yesterday I call them up and I wanted to ask how this would be handled and they said "well since you had no witnesses in your car, it's considered your fault, and if you make a claim your policy will increase... but I'm not sure about that - talk to your agent on Monday". I personally think this is bullshit, I've paid them enough money to buy a brand new car, and they'll cheap out over some $3,000 worth of repair?

Anyhow, if anyone has any suggestions as to how to talk to your insurance agent and how to get the most out of it, please give me some suggestions, but for now I'm trying to figure out what components should be replaced - before I take it to a body shop and have them do an estimate for my insurance.

At this point, I'm thinking of the following:

1) The actual wheel, the rubber, putting rubber on wheel and balancing.

2) Now usually when you get new rubber on one side on a driving wheel - aren't you supposed to get new rubber on the other side as well? Any chance of convincing my insurance company about that? If so, I'd need old rubber on pass side taken off, new rubber, new rubber put on and balanced.

3) Suspension components: that lower control arm, sway bar linkage, shock. Do you think I need a new sway bar as well? After that kind of impact, I'm pretty sure it got bent. Also, the strut Y fork and the strut lower control arm - those don't appear to be visibly bent, but in this kind of scenario - would you replace those as well?

4) Labor - swapping all of that crap.

5) Alignment.

6) Bumper - no picture but scratched the hell out of it at the bottom - either have them fix it and paint it - or new bumper - remove old one, paint new one and put it on.


I'm hoping to get $2500-3000 estimate for my insurance company. I have a $1000 deductible so hopefully I'll end up with a $1500-2000 check. I could buy all the suspension pieces at junkyard for like $200, new wheels with tires for $800, and I'll have some cash left over

7) Oh another question - do they sell aftermarket sway bars for 2g DSMs? Are they worth it? I know SBR sells one, but I'm not sure if it'll change anything.

8) Are FWD turbo (GST) suspension pieces same as N/T (gs/rs)? At least the ones I'm looking at?

Thanks all!

 

[Eclipse98_RS]

looks like you were going a lot faster than 20, but any case that sucks. Insurance companies are like that you pay all this money and then when you have an accident they screw you over. I would say its time to get new suspension stuff and you already mentioned new rims.
That stuff looked pretty well bent.

 

[SinEclipse]

You have pretty much two option here, either go stock or start buying new suspension. Go to a junk yard see if you can find some of those parts in decent to good condition. The camber looks bent or warp but not really sure.

Oops, didn't read the insurance part. Insurance will cover you but they might screw you over with the new rates. My brother had something similar to this and everything was paid off by insurance but his insurance went up by a lot.

Only if you lived closer because i still have all my stock suspension. Still in good condition but I might swap out my suspension soon. After market sway bar works nicely. If you get sway bar get front and rear strut bar to and you will feel a huge different.

 

[jc1gawd]

I used to work in a body shop and had to deal with insurance companies a lot. It is the adjusters job to give out the least amount of money possible (it seams like it). Not to offend anyone!
You should have a body shop with a frame and suspension rack measure the car. Even though you were only going 20, there could be some unseen damage that you are unaware of. Most body shops usually do free estimates. They will give you a printout of all parts needing replace and also tell you if any of the suspension has been moved in accordance with the engine cradle.
Try to stay away from used ball joints. Swaybars bend very easily, there is a good chance that you will need a new one. Extreme PSI sells good aftermarket ones for a good price. They usually have products in stock and they're at your door in 4-5 days.

 

[2FastForU]

Thanks for the replies... now i gotta deal with the insurance company BS ((

 

[2FastForU]

Oh also you haven't replied to my most important question - is the suspension in the front the same across all 2gens? Or do GSXs/RS/GS have different stuff down there?

 

[chase1244]

I am almost 100% sure there are some differences not really sure what but there are differences

 

[dsmzoom]

Alright it just started snowing on long island, and some guy decides to spin out and the only way to avoid him was to turn the wheel which caused me to go into oncoming( no one was there checked before I made this decision) and hit the curb at 15mph. It totally owned my rim, and pushed it back into the wheel well. What would you say is bent and needs to be replaced. I'm sorry if the pictures dont do the justice, but nothing looks bent or snapped..maybe the lower control arm? any ideas?

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[crimsondragon]

It looks fine but don't quote me on it. I would take it to a local shop and check the alignment. If anything is to go, it might be your lower control arms. I had this happen to a Civic, hit the curb at 25 and messed up the control arms and a bit of the frame. But our DSMs aren't Civics so I don't know. Brought the Civic to Sears, and they said there is frame damage. I woulc have them check that. Did you try rotating the wheel and see if it's off?

 

[moto x]

## lower controll arm is deffinitly more than likly bent.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Ouch. If you didnt snap the lower ball joints and the control arms didnt bend, you may have pushed in the lower part of the subframe.

 

[Guest]

I recently curbed my car about three weeks ago. I hit ice and went into a curb but i was going about 25. I bent my lower control arm, lateral arm, steering fork, steering knuckle, the strut, and my wheel. I asked for all my parts back from the repairs, and when i got them i couldn't tell that they were bent, they looked perfectly fine. They were bent though, not enough to notice by looking at them, but bent enough to mess up my car. Fortunately for me I crashed a block away from a shop. So they did an alignment and found my car was ####ed up.

 

[98mitsuGSX-SD]

^As he suggested^ just take it to an alignment shop to check if it got screwed up. Once they have it on the lift I'm sure there'd be more than willing to notify if anything was bent or out of shape. The wheel on the other hand...WOW that's a lot of curb rash. I'd got buy 1 more rim of the same model and use the rashed one as a full size spare.

 

[dsmzoom]

Flat bed is coming today, well take pictures and keep you guys updated, thanks.

 

[buddahboost]

Instead of making a new thread, I will continue on this one

I was making a left hand turn at 20is MPH and totally slid and hit the curb going 15ish MPH give or take. My rim is like this now /

Just not as exaggerated, but this fuc king car pulls to the right like crazy.

I searched and depending on the damage I did, I might need control arms, ball joints, tie rods

I'm going to see if I can put my car on a lift on friday at school so I can check it out from underneath.

Any suggestions as to what to look at and test. I'm stupid when it comes to this suspension things

Thanks guys!

 

[Savage Talon]

I hit a curb a few years ago hard. Pics of it in my gallery are with the steering wheel straight. I bent front & rear control arms, rear hub, and the rear sub frame that holds the lower control arm and rear diff. The tie rod up front was fine, it was easy to fix and cost was minimal with used parts.

 

[buddahboost]

Thanks for the reply, there's been hella people looking but noone takes their time and help out a dsm'r

Only problem is I'm broke and I guess I'm going to have to drive through winter like this

My steering wheel is also cocked to the left like a 1/4 turn. Its straight but that's how it is..

Other nite I was going like 30ish and I was pumping the brakes cause I was about to make a right hand turn and then the car completely did a fuc king 180 and I hit the curb again.

Time to hit up the junkyards this weekend in the FREEZING AS$ SNOW

 

[Rx3]

Some of the stuff may be hard to see just by looking. Typically, if any boots are ripped, or if any grease/lube is leaking, you will need to replace it. Unfortunately, many of the boots and such on control arms aren't sold separately and you have to by the entire control arm. Usually the part that takes the most damage is the lower control arm, and depending on how hard the impact was, the hub as well.

 

[xxShaneOmac]

I hit a curb pretty straight on at 55mph fish tailing down a hill....

1st rains after weeks of sun... = slippery!

Car needs alignment but drives runs and is straight as a arrow.

Lucky?

 

[asexton6969]

Honestly, you should not drive your car for much longer. Your talking about damaged suspension parts. You have no idea if there are stress cracks. It is possible for those parts to snap in half, however unlikely but still possible. Your camber is messed up, your going to wear your tire like no other. Your vehicle is going to handle differently due to the incorrect alignment. Your vehicle is a possible danger on the road. You need to consider other options, such as letting the car sit and finding rides to work. You need to explore every option other than ignoring the problem. Just don't want someone to get hurt or for you to have a possible lawsuit on your hands.

 

[Rx3]

Lucky?

Very.


Assuming that something isn't broken and you just missed it. Just because it drives straight doesn't mean something isn't wrong.

 

[nfernotalon]

Ok so i hit a curb today and the rear toe control arm, i think is what is called is bent to hell. Its the big arm that adjusts the toe for the rear wheels. Can anyone tell me the name of that arm? Its connected to the hub assembly, thanks.

Rear trailing arm? Is it just the AWDs that have this?

 

[turbodsm18]

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-Kevin-

 

[DSM Jeff]

Trailing arm? They are not cheap, I'd suggest checking local junkyards or search for anyone parting out a car.

 

[buddahboost]

^ Don't know if you are talking to me, but yeah, I checked the junk yards.. no AWD

I gotta do some research if control arms on awd/fwd are the same along with the hubs HINT HINT SOMEONe

I wanna drive my baby!!