Boddie
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- Aug 21, 2012
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Ames,
Iowa
So in the past I had barometric sensor issues (Only the shop could get this code... I never have), and just for fun I decided to through in a third MAF sensor that the seller assured me worked great. Anyways my issues are getting progressively worse. This car is my daily driver, and I am now to the point I just want it running.
Anyways... I followed the directions here and attempted to check the codes. I seem to be no good at deciphering the codes, so I recorded them.
They can be found at the link below:
1991 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo - YouTube
I think I get:
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-L-S-L
S-S-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
With lines 7, 8, 9 it looks like L-L-S-L-S-S-L-L-L-L-S-S-L (12 (MAF) and 42 (Fuel Pump)??)
...I know the car has some crazy wiring going on with the fuel pump through a relay and stuff. It was like that when I got the car. I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. I also noticed the lower honey combs were taken out of this new maf.
Here is a picture of the relay under the hood (red wire goes to battery, and blue goes back through harness or something):
Here is the mess that is going on in the trunk:
On this car there is no catalytic converter, and the muffler was replaced with a fart can as you can see in the video. He had a MBC on the car that is set to 15 PSI. It dropped to 7 for a long time and fixed it with a combination of getting the wastegate unstuck and fixing the boost leaks. Now it is back to where the previous owner had it.
In the last 10 seconds or so of the video I recorded black stuff that is coming out of my exhaust at an alarming rate. Any help on any of this would be great. I have thrown in an unbelievable amount of money now just to get this thing up to par...
UPDATE: Just swapped in the old MAF sensor just in case -> Disconnected the battery for about 15 minutes -> started the car and let it run for 10 minutes -> check engine light came on -> turned off and checked codes -> got the same above pretty much:
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
...the five long buzzes in a row really throw me off.
ANOTHER UPDATE: So I decided to check all the voltages at the ECU again. Here is what I got:
PIN 13 (Fuel pump) 13.57V cold, 12.49V idle (450-550 rpms?? seems low)
PIN 24 and 17 (Sensor ground) 0.45V AKA GND
PIN 10 (MAF) 2.8V at idle (No idea what this should be)
PIN 23 (MAF Power Supply) is at 5V exactly which is what it should be
I may try to set the BISS using this strategy in case that low idle is causing issues.
UPDATE: Got the BISS screw set properly. It idles at 750 RPMs when fully warmed up. After a short drive the black crap stopped coming out of the exhaust. I am going to run some seafoam through it tomorrow to see if that helps.
Anyways... I followed the directions here and attempted to check the codes. I seem to be no good at deciphering the codes, so I recorded them.
They can be found at the link below:
1991 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo - YouTube
I think I get:
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-L-S-L
S-S-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
With lines 7, 8, 9 it looks like L-L-S-L-S-S-L-L-L-L-S-S-L (12 (MAF) and 42 (Fuel Pump)??)
...I know the car has some crazy wiring going on with the fuel pump through a relay and stuff. It was like that when I got the car. I am not sure if that has anything to do with it. I also noticed the lower honey combs were taken out of this new maf.
Here is a picture of the relay under the hood (red wire goes to battery, and blue goes back through harness or something):
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Here is the mess that is going on in the trunk:
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On this car there is no catalytic converter, and the muffler was replaced with a fart can as you can see in the video. He had a MBC on the car that is set to 15 PSI. It dropped to 7 for a long time and fixed it with a combination of getting the wastegate unstuck and fixing the boost leaks. Now it is back to where the previous owner had it.
In the last 10 seconds or so of the video I recorded black stuff that is coming out of my exhaust at an alarming rate. Any help on any of this would be great. I have thrown in an unbelievable amount of money now just to get this thing up to par...
UPDATE: Just swapped in the old MAF sensor just in case -> Disconnected the battery for about 15 minutes -> started the car and let it run for 10 minutes -> check engine light came on -> turned off and checked codes -> got the same above pretty much:
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
L-S-S-L
S-L-L-L-L
...the five long buzzes in a row really throw me off.
ANOTHER UPDATE: So I decided to check all the voltages at the ECU again. Here is what I got:
PIN 13 (Fuel pump) 13.57V cold, 12.49V idle (450-550 rpms?? seems low)
PIN 24 and 17 (Sensor ground) 0.45V AKA GND
PIN 10 (MAF) 2.8V at idle (No idea what this should be)
PIN 23 (MAF Power Supply) is at 5V exactly which is what it should be
I may try to set the BISS using this strategy in case that low idle is causing issues.
UPDATE: Got the BISS screw set properly. It idles at 750 RPMs when fully warmed up. After a short drive the black crap stopped coming out of the exhaust. I am going to run some seafoam through it tomorrow to see if that helps.
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