Has anyone ran a Comp Turbo(innovative Turbo)??

[AM3LJ]

Just wanted to know how these turbos compare to other popular turbo brands? Im interested in buying a ct467 but i just never heard of them. So an info would be great! thanks.

Also if you know of any other turbo that would compare to it for under 1000 just let me know.

 

[dsm-onster]

There are 60mm compressors making 620wtq and 690whp using tiny .55 a/r housings. Hope you get some track results to back your numbers up

 

[bastarddsm]

My dyno numbers will he enough proof. I'll be back Here in a month.

Dwight, your dyno numbers would be proof if, you actually built your car instead of paying strictly modified to build it.

Now, if the turbo you have was the size of a 35r and SM magically got 1500whp out of it and it lasted for years without trouble, you can come back and talk then.

They may be nice turbo's but there is nothing magical about them.

 

[dsm-onster]

I'm running a 13LB 70mm TBB divided .84 T4 Comp turbo with a MX trim turbine (80mm) and a ceramic coated CHRA . On E85 and a ultra conservative tune with only 11* peak timing (I was running more timing on 93oct) I'm getting 34psi by 5700rpm and my 1600cc injectors are at 94%idc at 32psi. For a 80mm turbine I think that's pretty decent (especially for my setup, check my profile). I just went to a 1.0 a/r T4. Real tune and dyno coming soon. See yall in a month.

That's the twinscroll turbine housing to match the twinscroll manifold you have?

There's no mention of the "13LB" turbo on their site. What are ALL the wheel diameters?

 

[noV8undrDIShood]

Dude, Justin is the turbo god.. he probably has taken apart more turbos in a year then you will in your life..

+1 Jus
+1 Dsm-onster

 

[JusMX141]

he probably has taken apart more turbos in a year then you will in your life..

Seven rebuilds last week alone, but that was also a very busy week. Never really tallied a years' worth, but I'm sure it would be close to 100.

 

[spoolin ddub]

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[dsm-onster]

POUNDS , not some product name. . . I get it now. Begs another question: why did you bring up the weight?

Compressor: 70.8mm inducer, I forgot the exducer

Perhaps 102mm. s366/372.

There's no reason just to trust them since 'they don't have alot of things about their turbos on their site'. Where's the compressor map?

'Perfectly matched' is an opinion and very setup specific.

Again, are you running a twinscroll housing with your twinscroll manifold listed in your profile?

 

[spoolin ddub]

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[JusMX141]

Map? They have maps but these days who goes off maps .

Exactly. Who gives a shit what airflow the turbo you'd be interested in is capable of generating? Bigger is ALWAYS better- just bolt on the biggest honkin' turbo that will fit your manifold and give it hell, right?

The reason today's turbo market is so misunderstood is the LACK of studying maps. Too many guys are buying turbos based on what everyone else doing with said turbocharger, paying no attention at all to what airflow their engine can use. They see shop cars running 9's on PTE 6262's so they bolt one on their otherwise stock DSM and run mid-12's all day long, when a Big 16G would've been ideal and spooled about 1500 rpms sooner.

 

[brian9397gsx]

gotta side with justin on this one and i hope im the winner but the one on the left appears to have balance marks on the blade so i think thats the garrett.

purely looking at it the only differances i see is the cast cover between the comp and the garretts

 

[spoolin ddub]

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[JusMX141]

You misunderstood me. I'm talking about people who are looking to make 700-900whp efficiently.

So what did you do....call up Comp and say "I have xxxx car looking to make xxxx horsepower- send me a turbo that will get me to my goal" and that's how you got to this point?

 

[boostin-4door]

''The reason today's turbo market is so misunderstood is the LACK of studying maps.'' ''Too many guys are buying turbos based on what everyone else doing with said turbocharger, paying no attention at all to what airflow their engine can use. They see shop cars running 9's on PTE 6262's so they bolt one on their otherwise stock DSM and run mid-12's all day long, when a Big 16G would've been ideal and spooled about 1500 rpms sooner.''

First, let me say I'm not a 'newb'. Was on here and DSMTALK before & rejoined. Had a 92' 1g back in 94' until 03', and have had a GVR4 since then. Was a member of MDSOG News Log[Mistubishi & DiamondStar Owners Group].Been to the last 13 DSM SO's. Know people at all the Chicago area shops over the years, HAHN, TAD, DEVO TUNING,DVDTFAB,APM, AMS,Strictly Modified,etc.. I've seen the DSM hobby grow & improve with technology over the years.

Um...huh...? I don't agree w/that. A 'stock' motored DSM guy ''these'' days wouldn't buy[or can't afford] a 6262 in the first place because he prob. wouldn't have the $1300.oo+ or whatever to spend on that turbo. If he did buy that size/type of turbo with a ''stock'' setup he's a moron.
DSM guys sometimes follow the shop ''trends'' way too much and aren't realistic in their goals, budget, and purpose of their cars. Back in the late 90's, if we the DSM community only followed the shops 'trends' back then we would all be still using 20g's. 20g's were good turbo's[except for the weak shafts] but today you couldn't pay someone to run one.
Also, ''shop cars'' are just that. They have the support & resources to do what they do. Yes, Spoolin's car is a built car, with the ''works''. But, you stated ''too many guys are buying turbo's based on what everyone else is doing''...
Well, basically nobody[DSM's] is running a COMP turbo. The other one who is [2g from Canada is flying!]It's a new brand to this market. They make high end specialty turbo's. Yes, it's a basic T4 design and it has features from other turbo's. But calling and discounting it as a ''knock off'' is foolish. He's being different and trying something new, but is getting criticised for it.

Lastly, I'm the guy who's been running the BEP Holset HX35 since 2005. [Not sure if I was the first, but in the Chicago area I was]. When I first bought it, people were saying ''what kind of turbo is that'', ''who else runs a Holset''?,''Any dyno number's available?'', etc, etc...Well, all I know is my turbo was under $1000.oo and according to the HUGE thread on this site, it performs well for what it is, and people are happy with it.

Thats the point isn't it? to be happy with YOUR car.

 

[Fiascoxl]

Here's some info.http://www.4g61t.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21277&hilit=innovative This is before they started they're own company though.

 

[spoolin ddub]

Dwight, your dyno numbers would be proof if, you actually built your car instead of paying strictly modified to build it.

Now, if the turbo you have was the size of a 35r and SM magically got 1500whp out of it and it lasted for years without trouble, you can come back and talk then.

They may be nice turbo's but there is nothing magical about them.

Who are you?

So what did you do....call up Comp and say "I have xxxx car looking to make xxxx horsepower- send me a turbo that will get me to my goal" and that's how you got to this point?

No. I told them my realistic goals they asked me some specific questions about my setup how much boost I wanted to run etc and wanted to know the purpose of my car (street/strip etc).
Similar to this.
http://www.compturbo.com/files/NEW TURBOCHARGER APPLICATION DATA SHEET1.pdf

They had all my info worked some figures and here I am. I am more than happy. The performs has been on point. You all can keep the thread going. I'll post those numbers when I get them.

 

[jrohner]

So when you get these dyno numbers, they're going to prove this turbo is the most amazing thing ever? How? There's more to a turbo than dyno numbers.

 

[bastarddsm]

Who are you?

Somebody that actually built their own car.

I'm not trying to degrade you or your car, or your comp turbo sponsor ship. But, these turbo's are not magical at all, they are just another turbo vendor trying to make a living. I can tell you right now from my experience in the research and development world, these turbo's are based off known working designs. They are not a china copy. I guarantee that comp turbo took known working compressor wheels and modified the design to their tastes.

These turbo's would be magical if, they could move much more air than their competitors at the same size inducer. Or much more air at the same $$, or way quicker spool for the same airflow.

Realistically a EIII16g is a magical turbo. $550, easily makes 400whp, spools like stock, bolts on like stock.

When comp turbo comes out with a turbo that does that, they can be magical.

 

[EclipticalGS]

Realistically a EIII16g is a magical turbo. $550, easily makes 400whp, spools like stock, bolts on like stock.

I agree...

But what are your real goals with this turbo spoolinddub? A divided t4 1.0a/r and 70mm comp? I would love to see a chart of that turbo because im sure its going to be laggy as hell, thats why I want to know your purpose for this car and what hp your looking for?? Dyno queen as some say? Drag car? I just find it funny that a $600 turbo set-up like a 6/7 blade HX-40 (60mm comp.) with a small BEP (.55ar) can flow around 60lbs and produce upwards of 650hp....This sort of tells you, bigger isnt always better....and to boot, full spool is achieved around 4100-4500 rpms....Thats pretty damn perfect.

I also think that Jusmx's is trying to make one point of, Why throw a monster turbo on a car with expectations of 400hp (not saying your goals are 400hp)?? There are turbos out there that can effectively be chosen for your goals by studying the flow charts of a specific turbo/ sizes...Thats all hes trying to say. If i threw this comp. turbo on my car, Id expect to make over 900hp.

And the last point hes trying to make, If you knew anything about how businesses were ran now adays, you'd know that Comp. HAS taken designs of other companies with slight modification to make it their own unique turbo, NO company seeking business is going to spend 4 years of R&D from SCRATCH designing different center sections and testing them...That was in the past. Im sure they do R&D to an extent but seriously.

A good Example......Vacuum cleaners were all bagged systems, until Bissel came out with the little filter and cyclone jobby, couple years later, Dyson is selling these modded vacuum cleaners with the same internals and pick-up designs, and just because the Dyson has a ball to swivel around while cleaning, everyone buys it because its huge and flashy. Well, its jsut a vacuum and performs the same as my grandmas 1962 Kirby.

 

[spoolin ddub]

Somebody that actually built their own car.

I'm not trying to degrade you or your car, or your comp turbo sponsor ship.

Apparently you do. But it doesn't matter. Have you driven or even seen my car? No.
I just stated my turbo dis not have any Garrett or BW parts. You are the ones doing all the talking about a turbo you have never even seen in person. You are on chitown dsm. Everyone was saying the same thing on there until Mike Reichen posted that the he was shocked and impressed at how the car felt at just 21psi (not even in the turbos efficiency range) when he was tuning my car. No one posted anything after that. Devin from Strictly/Boomba was shocked also when he was tuning my car. I'm pretty sure the person who owns the fastest Evo in the world and the person who owns the fasted 35R dsm pretty much know if a car is moving or not.






I see trying to do a parts search on this forum will lead to a fail. I'm a little confused why the only review/feedback thread was moved to the Newbie Thread Graveyard last year where you can't find it by searching.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-thread-graveyard/337600-compturbo-com.html


If you can't find any info here go to other forums.

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[dsm-onster]

I'm running a 13LB 70mm TBB divided .84 T4 Comp turbo with a MX trim turbine (80mm) and a ceramic coated CHRA . On E85 and a ultra conservative tune with only 11* peak timing (I was running more timing on 93oct) I'm getting 34psi by 5700rpm and my 1600cc injectors are at 94%idc at 32psi. For a 80mm turbine I think that's pretty decent (especially for my setup, check my profile). I just went to a 1.0 a/r T4. Real tune and dyno coming soon. See yall in a month.

Yes im running a twin scroll housing.

Twinscroll, a choice for all modern turbo options for a dsm has alot to do with this.

Yes it is silly not to look at the map. The map isn't wrong. It was rendered from the compressor and ambient conditions are stated. Volume flow of the compressor does not change even on the moon, believe it or not. The turbos that are pushed to beyond typical results has nothing to do with their airflow; and much more to do with the quality of build, how well the chosen parts work together, efficiency of the components AROUND the turbo, and more. There's a 40whp difference between a 10:1CR motor and 7.8:1 motor with the same evo316g and otherwise the same build. To some that's a 4lb/min airflow difference. But the airflow wasn't altered. So they chant compressor maps are worthless, turbine efficiency curves are not important. Then they can't get the same results with their stock compression build with high pumping loss and heavy rotating mass.

I hope it all works out for you. It would be nice for still another successful choice for the sport compact world and especially the DSM. Lets see the results, boost threshold, and longevity.

 

[JusMX141]

I'm not trying to degrade you or your car, or your comp turbo sponsorship.

That would explain why this 3-year-old thread has continued as such.

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[dsm-onster]

WOW did not see how old this thread is .

So when you get these dyno numbers, they're going to prove this turbo is the most amazing thing ever? How? There's more to a turbo than dyno numbers.

These turbo's would be magical if, they could move much more air than their competitors at the same size inducer. Or much more air at the same $$, or way quicker spool for the same airflow.

Realistically a EIII16g is a magical turbo. $550, easily makes 400whp, spools like stock, bolts on like stock.

When comp turbo comes out with a turbo that does that, they can be magical.

600whp below 8300rpms running 27psi seen at 5200rpm on a 2.0L is mildly amazing .

 

[spoolin ddub]

Twinscroll, a choice for all modern turbo options for a dsm has alot to do with this.

Yes it is silly not to look at the map. The map isn't wrong. It was rendered from the compressor and ambient conditions are stated. Volume flow of the compressor does not change even on the moon, believe it or not. The turbos that are pushed to beyond typical results has nothing to do with their airflow; and much more to do with the quality of build, how well the chosen parts work together, efficiency of the components AROUND the turbo, and more. There's a 40whp difference between a 10:1CR motor and 7.8:1 motor with the same evo316g and otherwise the same build. To some that's a 4lb/min airflow difference. But the airflow wasn't altered. So they chant compressor maps are worthless, turbine efficiency curves are not important. Then they can't get the same results with their stock compression build with high pumping loss and heavy rotating mass.

I hope it all works out for you. It would be nice for still another successful choice for the sport compact world and especially the DSM. Lets see the results, boost threshold, and longevity.

That's all that can be asked. You won't really know how it performs until people have tried it. I can admit being twinscroll helps but to put it in perspective someone I know use to run a divided .68 master power t70 with a p-trim. My old Comp Turbo had a bigger turbine in a .70 divided housing and I hit full boost 1300rpm sooner on 93oct. He ran c16, had more timing and had a higher compression motor.

I'm no ones fan boy. I'm one of the realest guys you will ever meet on any level. If the turbo was not up to par I wouldn't speak on it or support it. I'm not trying to impress anybody. I just keep it real.


I still would like to know why that guys comp turbo thread was put in the graveyard for no valid reason where no one could find it or respond to it.

 

[dsm-onster]

You don't know "it's up to par" because as you said no one has tried it. Or tried to push it, technically.

It's like many back in the day claiming the hx35 was a 650whp turbo. . .We all know it isn't. They were a frame size off. The maps arn't even in that range. And folks are making results that fit the maps.

The NON twinscroll setup of member biglady's friend with his hx52 and 2.0L saw 20psi by about 6300rpms. The most recent hx52 results on here WITH twinscroll show 20psi at 4800rpm with the 2.0L. That's 1500rpms different. And far faster spooling than your current turbo. But yours has a smaller turbine wheel . Regardless, if yours performs far BETTER than something like a gt4088r or hx52 or s366 (all of which in twinscroll form have flat unbelievable spool for the power they are outputting), or if yours just nets more flow/power at similar boost; then you're dollars are probably invested well. . . So, yes, we will see. Like said, hopefully it will be a non-manipulable Dynojet or backed by MPH/weight.






Keeping it real would be waiting until after your results to resurrect this thread to argue their success. There's nothing wrong with discussing potential of X part. Potential is NOT success. To flat out say 'if it was not up to par, I wouldn't speak' is superfluous; it hasn't even played on the course yet. Kurt's suggestion of your intent is certainly feasable at this point.

 

[spoolin ddub]

Results will be from a mustang Dyno. As far as manipulating the dyno people do that when trying to impress someone. I'm not trying to impress anyone. You won't see any fanboy tactics from me. I'm let it do what it do. I'll post numbers, timing, fuel, and boost level. I'll holla back in a month