GReddy Intercooler 24v any good?

[trinhbt]

Hey I heard that this intercooler is horrible and that there are better options out there. Is it true that it leaks and that this intercooler isn't worth putting on my dsm?

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[talonalex92]

Its not so much that it leaks, more so the cost and routing of the piping. There are a lot of better options, for a lot cheaper, and are a lot more effective.

 

[boosteclipse]

I have been running that intercooler for years, never any problems nor leaks, works great in my opinion. Like stated above it's price and the fact the piping is alot longer than the short routes makes it opsolete now-a-days.

 

[danielbo91]

I have that fmic i bought used but i have never used is also forsale i want to get the vrspeed one i think is better.

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

I had one before my VRSF. Both are great intercoolers, it's not the latest and greatest but there is nothing wrong with it. minimal bumper cutting for it too. I had to hack it way more for my VRSF.

Don't have to cut the bumper support or relocate the coolant tank with the greddy either.

Joel

 

[BoostFrenzy]

If you aren't going for crazy power, it is a good unit. It's a tube and fin design which is a good thing for the 2G platform. Much like the RX7 cars, there is only ONE major opening at the front of the car and this needs to cool both charge temps and water temps. A DSM can't support a V-mount style though so you either need to get creative with the bodywork or go for something that flows better. A tube and fin design allows more air through the core to get better cooling to the radiator (Read: less chances of overheating). Also, depending on core size, tube and fin is lighter then a bar and plate designed core.

The only downside to these units really is their price. Is it worth it at MSRP? No, not at all. Is it worth it used as a simple upgrade from the stock SMIC? Yes.

But like I said, only if you don't plan on going for crazy power.

 

[4Lurker4]

I liked mine when I had it briefly. I can see why people say it's outdated (due to piping route) but to be quite honest with you, it's THE lightest FMIC intercooler I've ever had. I weighed a Hahn FMIC and I could hold 2 cores of the GReddy to one of Hahn to equal it out. It was as light as the Big SMIC I run now (piping is also incredibly light). That helps a lot in weight reduction and thus a bit more oumff for your foot to enjoy. I also believe it enables you to keep your foglights (on a 2gb) which is nice.

It's not a bad option if you can get it used and for a good price. I wouldn't pay the 1000$ for it though.

 

[eligst21]

One question. How is a tube and fin better then a bar and plate? Sorry didn't get that.

 

[TSi Kid]

One question. How is a tube and fin better then a bar and plate? Sorry didn't get that.

Surface area

 

[eligst21]

I see. Thank you. I get what surface area does and how the tube and fin give it a larger area for the air to pass and cool, but arent the bar and plates more efficient and have less air drop and more durable then the tube and fin? Once you bend the tube and fin, they are useless correct? With a bar and plate they still can be used and work great?

Edit : oh i see what was being discussed was the operating temps and keeping it cool. Yes tube and fin would help flow air to the raditor thus less chance of overheating with a fmic on. My bad guys.

 

[99gst_racer]

Intercooling is a balancing act between cooling and airflow restriction. A tube and in design like the Greddy 24V will allow air to flow through it and pass through it with less restriction, but at the expense of poorer cooling. At a certain HP/airflow level, the performance of a tube and fin design will fall like a rock, and that's where bar and plate designs shine. They will cool the air charge much better at the minor expense of a bit of airflow restriction.

The GReddy kit isn't terrible. I probably wouldn't give more than a few hundred for one and I wouldn't run one on a car making more than 350-400 HP. Another downside to it is that it's more seceptible to damage from road debris like rocks and such.

 

[99gst_racer]

Surface area

Actually, bar and plate will have more internal surface area. Hence the flow restriction and better cooling.

 

[TSi Kid]

Actually, bar and plate will have more internal surface area. Hence the flow restriction and better cooling.

I thought that with the fins it would allow for more air to be trapped. Sorry about that one.

 

[trinhbt]

What about the overheating issue or AC? I read that fmic really screw with that.

 

[Chrispy0530]

With both my CXRacing, and then my upgrade to PR FMIC kit, I have A/C over heating issue's with both.

A big FMIC in-front of your airflow for your condenser and radiator is the only downside as air that's supposed to hit them, is restricted by the FMIC. keeps making me think I'd possibly want a large SMIC.

Then again, this somewhat varies by where you live. In a place like Florida, where it's hot almost all year long, it's def a problem. But if you live somewhere like NJ where you don't see a lot of hot days, might not be so bad.

 

[99gst_racer]

What about the overheating issue or AC? I read that fmic really screw with that.

That's less of an issue with a tube an fin intercooler like the GReddy 24v. Airflow passes through it easier and anything behind it will see better cooling. I ran the 24V many years ago and I never had A/C issues with it.

 

[trinhbt]

That's less of an issue with a tube an fin intercooler like the GReddy 24v. Airflow passes through it easier and anything behind it will see better cooling. I ran the 24V many years ago and I never had A/C issues with it.

That's sweet to hear plus I live near chicago where it's like always cold and is it true I won't have to cut the bumper support?

 

[99gst_racer]

That's sweet to hear plus I live near chicago where it's like always cold and is it true I won't have to cut the bumper support?

I had to completely remove the bumper support. It might be possible to trim the hell out of the support and use it, but I never looked into back then.

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[trinhbt]

I had to completely remove the bumper support. It might be possible to trim the hell out of the support and use it, but I never looked into back then.

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Is it unsafe to remove the bumper support? Also what did you use to trim the bumper and how did you mount it?

 

[supermario300hp]

I had this one on my first dsm. It came with the car. it worked perfectly and i never had a problem with it. I was just never a fan of the design because of the long piping route and the way you have to mount it. I would go VRSF for 320 shipped to your door.

 

[CanadianTalonTC]

Is it unsafe to remove the bumper support? Also what did you use to trim the bumper and how did you mount it?

It comes with it's own brackets to mount. You need to cut a little bit of the rad support and put your A/C Lines behind it.

The bumper support is just a 5mph bumper. In a crash it would be useless. I used a set of tin snips and a dremel for the corners to trim the bumper on mine. You don't need to trim a whole lot, my VRSF took a lot more trimming.

Joel

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[boosteclipse]

The bumper support does not need much triming to fit back on, just some cutting on the right side in between the upper and lower mounting points of the support.

 

[deviousgst]

here's my greddy intercooler with some cutting on the support bar
0521081748 - DSMtuners Gallery

 

[trinhbt]

Damn I can't wait to put this one on! Even if it's not the best, I got it with the piping for like 125 including an injen intake pipe so I'm not complaining

 

[boosteclipse]

Nice, for that price you will not be dissapointed.