Evo VIII Cams in DSM? [Merged 5-9] 8 cam

[acidxrain]

My friend is upgrading the cams on his evo VIII so he'll be getting rid of the stockers. Would the stock evo cams be a good upgrade for my car (97 gsx)?

 

[jpbrazill]

Does any body know, or know where I can obtain informantion on the Evo VIII camshafts? They will fit on a first gen head, I just want to know what the differences are between those camshafts...other than the Evo's are hollow. Any specs are appreciated!
Thanks

 

[1fast97gsx]

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[Stapl3]

They will fit on a first gen head

Maybe if you set them on the valve cover or something.

 

[BOOSTIN21]

this is pretty much a self explanatory topic just wondering if this will work at all. see i can get a set for real cheap and i know that they have a bigger lift than my 1990 ass cams i also have a set of 2g 96 cams are those better than my 1990.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

this is pretty much a self explanatory topic just wondering if this will work at all.

No.

i also have a set of 2g 96 cams are those better than my 1990.

No.

 

[sickgsx-316]

well said.

 

[91AWDTurbo]

If you want bigger cams, but dont want to spend alot of money on true HKS or whatever, you could find a cam regrinder to make a set of cams for you. i had a set of cams made to HKS 264 specs for $60 a piece, work great and havent had problems with them for 3 years now.
JJ

 

[sickgsx-316]

fast forward has a set of aggresive and affordable(meaning you get both for a bit more than the price you'd pay for 1 name brand cam) regrinds, which they warranty for 1 full year against any cracking or retardedness.

http://www.ffwdconnection.com/cams.shtml

 

[ldstang50]

The evo viii motor is mounted 180 deg opposite of the dsm motor. But the intake is still in the back and the exhaust in the front. Therefore the cams will not work in a DSM, I've tried it for shits and giggles with a friend. The lobes and timing is completely off from a DSM.

 

[hiimt0ny]

Does anyone know if the EVO 8 cams and cam gears work on 1g or 2g engines? And if they do is it a good upgrade compared to the 1g or 2g cams......? or are they the same cams?

 

[prophecy7115]

Sorry to burst your bubble no it wont work, the only couple of things i can get of the top of my head that could work would be, injectors which are 510 not 550, front mount,
Maybe some of the exaust. The evo viii motor is mounted 180 deg opposite of the dsm motor. But the intake is still in the back and the exhaust in the front. Therefore the cams will not work in a DSM, I've tried it for shits and giggles with a friend. The lobes and timing is completely off from a DSM.

 

[prophecy7115]

By the way, there are alot of threads on this topic, if you search you could find out in a little more detail what the true answer might be. Hope i helped.

 

[i1nk83]

actually the evo 8 injectors are 560's. the 510's came in the galant vr4rs's and are kinda hard to find. but you are right about the cams, they will not work. evo3 cams most likely would , but not the newer evo's

 

[neuralracing]

Unless you were to get them for free... why even bother going with Cams other than HKS...

 

[tstkl]

fp says their cams are better, and maybe they are, thats one reason why someone might go for something besides hks,...

also, if you have access to an evo 8 head, the valves and springs can be used (or at least the valves) along with the turbo (with MAJOR modification to the acessory stuff and some sanding to the block) and numerious other parts,... just ask and i might be able to tell you, the exaust can not be used (i would assume....) the o2 housing/manifold are COMPLETELY different, and unless you use the evo8 turbo they cant be used....as for the cams, they would be spinning in the wrong direction if you put them on our cars...

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Does anyone know if the EVO 8 cams and cam gears work on 1g or 2g engines? And if they do is it a good upgrade compared to the 1g or 2g cams......? or are they the same cams?

No they don't work.

There are many threads on this, please research by searching next time.

 

[zearro]

so what happened? I am interested in that information.

 

[flacopower]

WOULD THEY FIT THE 420a????

how is this moron a proven member i am still a newbie?? anyways when you say minor modification what does that mean? i wouldn't want to be modifing too much in that area of my car..

 

[Paddocklke1]

Any update from anybody regarding the EVO cams fitting into our 4g63 heads.

 

[psychlow]

Seriously, it's been long enough!

WE NEED T3H INFO.

 

[dsm-onster]

i plan on making a tech article of it but according to my buddy who has worked on countless evo's and dsm's he said with minoir modification that will swap just fine.....

I have seen several threads where wizemen have said the evo8 cams will not work properly without significant changes, given that the camtiming events are in the opposite direction for opposite cams ... Give some info before your tech article, if you could. I'm really curious. I believe the wisemen. Give proof.

 

[dsm-onster]

That doesn't hold true. Do you know which direction the engine turns? Just becuase it's mounted 180 to the 1g-2g doesn't mean anything. The engine still turns clockwise.

A more educated guess may be that the cam journals are resized. or that the cylinder head length is slightly different due to a revised valve cover, which could equate to optimized cam length. Etc.

I'm not saying it'll work, but if doesn't, it's not because it's 180 off.

He has a very logical arguement! It is very educated, given that the cam timing events are in the opposite direction for opposite cams. Nothing makes his statement less educated. WTF This is a valid point that needs to be addressed to determine if the cam set will work.

Besides, I've also seen several threads where these cams won't work because of the engine orientation and rotation. Several wisemen have chimed in and said that they won't work... Who would you believe?

 

[Chaddycakes21]

2 years later with still no info...

 

[wolf20043]

2 years later with still no info...

That almost says more than the whole thread did.
Mike

 

[1SloColt]

The evo8 motor is not turned 180, it is not reversed in any way either. The motor is mirrored compared to 1g and 2g cars. Think hard and long about what mirrored means and try and picture it in your head before you chime in.