Eclipse GSX vs Colbalt SS???

[amballer82822]

Anyone have experience with both the cars? Many of my friends choose my car over my other firends (colbalt SS). I just wanna know the advantages the SS has over my GSX. I personally hate the colbalt with a passion haha. Im talking about the supercharged version not turboed. Its a 2006

 

[TSITurbo95]

I test drove both the supercharged and turbo version, and dislike both. The turbocharged one was a bit faster though. I personally like how my dsm drives, handles, and performs over almost every car I have driven. Anywho, I would say the advantage of the supercharged ss, is that the boost is almost instant, whereas it depends on the size turbo you have in the gsx. SS is also fwd, so off the line is the weak spot.

 

[LiquidX]

Make sure you don't bring up any reference to street racing if this is what the topic is actually about. Other than that, I heard that the SS was slow

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

All you're looking at is the difference between a Turbo and a Supercharger. A Superchargers power is there at all times, but it has to rob power to make power. A Turbo always provides power, but lags due to spool time.

Supercharger off the line > Turbo Off the line......

....That is until you setup Anti-Lag. Then what's a Super Charger but an inefficient cow?

 

[burkgonzo]

Turbo SS is a pretty quick and cheap for what it is. The GSX is a going to be a beast off the line, the ss not so much.

 

[red_devil]

The SS turbo is a good car with a good setup chassis. A dsm would need a few mods to keep up with one on a circuit track.

 

[e85_4g63]

Cobalt SS's are great cars, if your a 16 year old boy with his permit. I'm not saying that the GSX is God's gift to the car world, but he was showing off a little

You also have to consider that even the 2005 Cobalt SS's are a good 5 to 10 years ahead of even the 99 gsx's technology. If your looking for a nice "beater" car, the SS might be your niche, but when then weather turns bad.. Hello AWD!

 

[xxxspeedxxx]

them ss's are slow. your DSM will eat it

 

[BigBeans]

From a roll (as in the straightaway of a track) a stock SS S/C would easily walk away from a stock GSX.

From a dig with a good driver, an SS S/C will come around a stock GSX before the 1/4 mile.

You guys are delusional if you think you think a stock GSX is going to hang with an SS. The SS makes as much power at the wheels as GM rated it at the crank.

High 13s @ 103+ are possible stock.

 

[avenged5]

Eh. The Cobalt SS has the fastest FWD record on Nurburgring at 8:22.xxx and is faster than the Evo IX on Laguna Seca. Or are we talking about speed in a straight line?

Edit: Sorry, I didn't see the supercharged part either

 

[98mitsubishigst]

My buddy has a SS. i have my GST.

We are both Lightly Modded as well.
Drag times. I win

 

[burkgonzo]

I got pooped on by a hopped up turbo ss on 15lbs with my 20g.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

The cobalt is such a cheap piece of crap it would probably break down before it reaches the line.

 

[95talongirl]

The entire Cobalt line was pretty unloved. The car had that feel of being very cheap. Now on the SS version that had the upgraded seats and such, it was better. The Supercharged one was rated at 205HP, the Turbo: 260HP. So there's a significant power advantage in the turbo one. Like mentioned above, the suspension/chassis setup on these cars was quite awesome for an "econobox." I'd almost say that this car was make for corners vs. straight line speed.

Honestly I don't think they got the credit it deserved; especially the turbo version. I do remember seeing a kid at the local track with an '09 he just bought. First time down the 1/4 he ran a 13.8 stock. Not to bad! Comparatively, I've seen the S/C-ed ones run mid 14's to mid 15's based on driver in stock form.

I also do believe that turbocharging is the way to go on small displacement engines due to the parasitic draw a supercharger has. However, once you get into larger displacements of the v6's and V8's, this draw becomes less of an issue and the consistent power without the lag is a nice touch.

Long story short: the Cobalt was not really that bad of a car. I always thought they were a cool offering from GM; compared to the J-body. That and GM never really had a potent sport compact; well.. that I can remember.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

The entire Cobalt line was pretty unloved. The car had that feel of being very cheap. Now on the SS version that had the upgraded seats and such, it was better. The Supercharged one was rated at 205HP, the Turbo: 260HP. So there's a significant power advantage in the turbo one. Like mentioned above, the suspension/chassis setup on these cars was quite awesome for an "econobox." I'd almost say that this car was make for corners vs. straight line speed.

Honestly I don't think they got the credit it deserved; especially the turbo version. I do remember seeing a kid at the local track with an '09 he just bought. First time down the 1/4 he ran a 13.8 stock. Not to bad! Comparatively, I've seen the S/C-ed ones run mid 14's to mid 15's based on driver in stock form.

I also do believe that turbocharging is the way to go on small displacement engines due to the parasitic draw a supercharger has. However, once you get into larger displacements of the v6's and V8's, this draw becomes less of an issue and the consistent power without the lag is a nice touch.

Long story short: the Cobalt was not really that bad of a car. I always thought they were a cool offering from GM; compared to the J-body. That and GM never really had a potent sport compact; well.. that I can remember.

May I have your address?

 

[flyineagletsi]

The cobalt is such a cheap piece of crap it would probably break down before it reaches the line.

So your saying its comparable to a dsm then?

 

[burkgonzo]

Creeper status.

 

[XiKeiyaZI]

Creeper status.

Hmm

 

[kaganader]

Eh. The Cobalt SS has the fastest FWD record on Nurburgring at 8:22.xxx and is faster than the Evo IX on Laguna Seca. Or are we talking about speed in a straight line?

That is true and they handle like a beast on the roads.

From a roll (as in the straightaway of a track) a stock SS S/C would easily walk away from a stock GSX.

From a dig with a good driver, an SS S/C will come around a stock GSX before the 1/4 mile.

You guys are delusional if you think you think a stock GSX is going to hang with an SS. The SS makes as much power at the wheels as GM rated it at the crank.

High 13s @ 103+ are possible stock.

My friends 06 ss s/c with a smaller pulley and a header beats on bolt on LS1 fbodies from a roll, so its NOT slow at all.

The cobalt is such a cheap piece of crap it would probably break down before it reaches the line.

I would dissagree with that, a sports compact coming with heated seats, luxury steering wheel controlling the radio and stuff, and onstar and blue tooth in the turbo models. not crappy at all. The turbo models have alot more defects then the S/C models did. only thing I remember the s/c have as defect is are that the water pump dies, and you need to replace the timing chain tensioner bolt. while the turbo models have a page full list of things that go bad on them.

The entire Cobalt line was pretty unloved. The car had that feel of being very cheap. Now on the SS version that had the upgraded seats and such, it was better. The Supercharged one was rated at 205HP, the Turbo: 260HP. So there's a significant power advantage in the turbo one. Like mentioned above, the suspension/chassis setup on these cars was quite awesome for an "econobox." I'd almost say that this car was make for corners vs. straight line speed.

Honestly I don't think they got the credit it deserved; especially the turbo version. I do remember seeing a kid at the local track with an '09 he just bought. First time down the 1/4 he ran a 13.8 stock. Not to bad! Comparatively, I've seen the S/C-ed ones run mid 14's to mid 15's based on driver in stock form.

I also do believe that turbocharging is the way to go on small displacement engines due to the parasitic draw a supercharger has. However, once you get into larger displacements of the v6's and V8's, this draw becomes less of an issue and the consistent power without the lag is a nice touch.

Long story short: the Cobalt was not really that bad of a car. I always thought they were a cool offering from GM; compared to the J-body. That and GM never really had a potent sport compact; well.. that I can remember.

Well dropping from the stock pulley on the M62 s/c to a 2.7 with supporting mods the SS S/c gets around 280-300, and from a roll its pretty nasty.

 

[hurricanecris24]

My friend had a cobalt ss/sc he claimed it ran 11s stock. He let me drive it to see how it handles and performs I was not impress. I had a gst at the time that I would rather have than a cobalt

 

[bluzvr4]

gsx>ss>gst

 

[BigBeans]

gsx>ss>gst

That would be my preference, but if we're talking speed only, the SS owns.

 

[TSiAWD666]

Are you people talking about the current gen Cobalt SS? If so, some of you are quite a bit delusional and should go drive one before passing judgement. If you're comparing a stock GSX to this thing, or even a slightly modded one, they're not even in the same league. The newest model is a beast of a car, easily on the level of the EVO with only FWD. It handles extremely well, and has a really good engine that drives smoothly but with really good output. It responds to at least basic modifications very well and does extremely well on road courses. GM even offers basic performance packages that don't void your warranty!

I'm familiar with it as my co-worker, an ex-racer (wheel to wheel on a road course), ex-Evo owner, and fellow car modder/enthusiast, owns one. He swears up and down it's better than his Evo VIII ever was. I've driven the car stock and was pretty impressed, but I'm still biased to AWD. I'd be kidding myself if I said his car doesn't handle pretty damned well, at least close to or on par with my Evo IX, and could give it a run for its money power wise. I've watched him in videos driving on a road course (he's an instructor) with it modded to close to 400hp now and it's a badass little car. I'm very impressed Chevy has stepped up their game in this market.

With all that said, I'd never give up my Eclipse GSX for it nor my Evo. I just like those better and can't back it up with performance justifications alone as a lot of it is just my personal taste. However, for someone that actually liked the Cobalt's looks, interior, etc., and was just teetering over performance numbers, you'd have a hard time choosing between the Evo and SS. Eclipse, psh, Cobalt blows it away.

edit - i'm and idiot and didn't read the OPs detail that he wants info on the 2006 supercharged, not the 2010 turbo. I stupid. Please disregard

 

[TJCTalon]

That would be my preference, but if we're talking speed only, the SS owns.

Im prett sure the 4g63 is the best for speed? I dont see SS going 7's. I disagree

 

[joat09]

Handling outperforms a dsm in sharp corners. SS cobalt ran a faster time than a R32 in the nurburgring.