E-Bay EVO III Big 16g STAYING STRONG

[aero_sallee]

I was using the V-Trim as an example because it was about the only turbo I could think of with a similar price tag to a modded 16G that had a good bit more potential.

Gotcha.

 

[matt98eclipse]

Eclipserydazz: I just installed my 16g turbo and bought it from the same place you did!! I hope i get as good of luck as you did!!

 

[EclipseRydazz]

Eclipserydazz: I just installed my 16g turbo and bought it from the same place you did!! I hope i get as good of luck as you did!!

Me too man.....That would make two of us on here with great results

 

[matt98eclipse]

I had also ported a 2g exhaust manifold along with a 02 housing so hopefully I dont have boost creep

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[EclipseRydazz]

Did you port the turbo?
and open up the wastgate hole?
Looks nice

 

[matt98eclipse]

No i did port anything on the turbo i was gonna and i probly should have!!

 

[EclipseRydazz]

No i did port anything on the turbo i was gonna and i probly should have!!

Well i guess give it a try, but you may be creeping really bad, because the exhaust outlit is closed quite a bit. I had mine ported all the way and its been perfect.

 

[dsm-onster]

Nope I would like to get some Cams, and other goodies on my car. I know i can make a little bit more power then i am now with a few more bolt ons.

Considering stock cam's, then you've just proven a whole lot here. 35 whp less than an evo3 16g running c16 and a cam upgrade.

 

[romeen]

I had also ported a 2g exhaust manifold along with a 02 housing so hopefully I dont have boost creep

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Not to get too far off topic but is your manifold ceramic coated or did you paint it yourself?

BTW, nice numbers EclipseRydazz! I hope I can do as well on my EVO3 16G.

 

[JayRolla]

Considering stock cam's, then you've just proven a whole lot here. 35 whp less than an evo3 16g running c16 and a cam upgrade.

I agree, he is still running a 2.0, stock cams, with higher compression. To the OP how much timing are you running on the c16. Any dyno numbers on pump gas?

 

[EclipseRydazz]

Considering stock cam's, then you've just proven a whole lot here. 35 whp less than an evo3 16g running c16 and a cam upgrade.

Thanks a lot, but I am considering Cams very soon.
What’s the input in adjustable Cam Gears?
I have herd Pros and a lot of Cons about these.

 

[dsm-onster]

Thanks a lot, but I am considering Cams very soon.
What's the input in adjustable Cam Gears?
I have herd Pros and a lot of Cons about these.

I noticed a sharp increase in spool retarding my stock exhaust cam about 3 degrees running my small 16g. It didn't feel like it dropped off up top as much as one would think when adding that much overlap. It seams that the stock cams have very little overlap dialed in for emmisions sake. Your idle will be very distinctive. An interesting experiment would be to retard the intake cam about 1-2 degrees then retard the exhaust cam about 3-4 degrees. You'll increase spool speed and should assist power up top.

I've mucked w/ cam timing on my fp2xs and seen good results too. I can turn fp2xs into fp3s w/ the adjustment of my exhaust cam gear. They're great to get every little bit out of your setup. Don't forget to readjust your ignition timing if you alter your intake cam timing.

 

[danyz250f]

You know i was thinking about doing that as well. You have any pics to post on that?

No but there is enough bends left over to use. That HUGE J pipe in the front basically just flip it over. I had to cut the U in half because it was to sharp of a bend and that hung down from the bumper about an inch. Then cut various bends to snake up to the turbo. I had to do this when I installed my PTE turbo. Use a metal chop saw becuse that SS pipe is a bi*** to cut with a hack saw. I had an extra 2'' 90* bend I used to go from the bottom of the turbo or a 90* silicone coupler would have been better. Then routed it inbetween the radiator and the metal support. Its just big enough to get 2.5'' pipe through.

Purchase a J pipe and it would be pretty straight forward and simple.

 

[EclipseRydazz]

I noticed a sharp increase in spool retarding my stock exhaust cam about 3 degrees running my small 16g. It didn't feel like it dropped off up top as much as one would think when adding that much overlap. It seams that the stock cams have very little overlap dialed in for emmisions sake. Your idle will be very distinctive. An interesting experiment would be to retard the intake cam about 1-2 degrees then retard the exhaust cam about 3-4 degrees. You'll increase spool speed and should assist power up top.

I've mucked w/ cam timing on my fp2xs and seen good results too. I can turn fp2xs into fp3s w/ the adjustment of my exhaust cam gear. They're great to get every little bit out of your setup. Don't forget to readjust your ignition timing if you alter your intake cam timing.

OK saweeet.

 

[EclipseRydazz]

No but there is enough bends left over to use. That HUGE J pipe in the front basically just flip it over. I had to cut the U in half because it was to sharp of a bend and that hung down from the bumper about an inch. Then cut various bends to snake up to the turbo. I had to do this when I installed my PTE turbo. Use a metal chop saw becuse that SS pipe is a bi*** to cut with a hack saw. I had an extra 2'' 90* bend I used to go from the bottom of the turbo or a 90* silicone coupler would have been better. Then routed it inbetween the radiator and the metal support. Its just big enough to get 2.5'' pipe through.

Purchase a J pipe and it would be pretty straight forward and simple.

Ok....I knew that the remaining piping was usable...nice

 

[danyz250f]

The red shows the general direction of the pipe on my car. This was before the new paint in my current avatar just if you were wondering. The blue was where I had couplers. Obviously weld where you can. I just didnt have access to a tig.

 

[Burnett03]

The red shows the general direction of the pipe on my car. This was before the new paint in my current avatar just if you were wondering. The blue was where I had couplers. Obviously weld where you can. I just didnt have access to a tig.

Gosh that was ALOT of piping.

 

[EclipseRydazz]

Gosh that was ALOT of piping.

Yeah this kit had a lot of piping. But for the cost of it, and a little bit of cuts here and there its perfect. And yeah i welded everything on this kit to avoid the infamous coupler popping off and clamps falling off.

 

[danyz250f]

I actually bought the shorte route kit that is often the advertized at the top of the dsmtuners page. I bought it from a member on here got just the core for 300 shipped with the 4'' thick core. Used the left over piping I had again, and made a short route kit. Its way cleaner, and I sold the xs core for 100 bucks, to my friend with a 240.

It also lets some air get to the ac condenser and radiator via sweet holes in the top of the bumper.

 

[matt98eclipse]

That looks really nice!!

 

[chanley talon]

I love it how people are too cheap to even buy MHI turbos (which cost $500 for ****s sake) these days and have to resort to chinabay crap. Stop trying to reinvent the freakin wheel, and just get what's been proven to work, instead of risking your engine with this guinea pig crap. Also, why are you putting money into a company that is knocking off a turbo that was researched with some cheap metal piece of crap thats only purpose is to steal money from the manufacturer of actual QUALITY turbochargers. Putting something this crucial to your engines life, and something that needs to have very tight tolerances on your car that was built by a company in china that I wouldn't trust with a micrometer is something that just dumbfounds me.

I would have thought that $200 for the ease of mind that the turbo wont die on you in 2k miles would have been worth it. Guess I overestimate some DSMers.

I would love to see some dyno numbers though, unless you're scared to push the thing (Hell, I would be).

Do you realize hes almost as fast as you with the ebay turbo and he has less mods? Who cares if he bought an ebay turbo. Its his money and a free country. If you dont like china turbos . Cool. But im highly intrested in his outcome. I have a family and if i can save a some money on this turbo i would. Because in the end these cars will break. Becuase they are dogged to death. However i love mhi turbos they are good and reputable. But its not a sin to give another company a chance. Thats called a free market. So you buy your stuff and let us buy ours.Then just post facts. IM LOOKING FOR 11S I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT. Theres one thing i will agree on i dont think they should be calling it a evo 3 16g since it is not. It smaller than the real one and making it look like its a mhi. Thats a little sneaky . I wish they would call it THE CHINA TURBO. Since they made it. Its not made exactly like a mhi evo3 . So i have no idea where you come up with how they stole their design. So many diffrent cars, diffrent types of T.V.s Its not stealing. You just really sensitive. I imagine theres an underlying reson for it.

 

[JusMX141]

The red shows the general direction of the pipe on my car. This was before the new paint in my current avatar just if you were wondering. The blue was where I had couplers. Obviously weld where you can. I just didnt have access to a tig.

What the hell? So you just punched a hole right through the center of the rad, or what?

 

[EclipseRydazz]

What the hell? So you just punched a hole right through the center of the rad, or what?

... thats what i thought.

IM LOOKING FOR 11S I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT.

I'm hopeing this sprin time my man..

AND DANYZ, THAT DOES LOOK A HELL OF A LOT NICER MAN FRIEND...GOOD WORK

 

[JOEY A]

Ill stick with a real mitsu turbo thank you

Most of us work for our money, so buying somthing that could end up going to shit isnt cost effective when its broken

I buy my parts ONE TIME, not twice


So have fun ya cheap asses

I would stick with a 14b over ebay stuff

 

[JOEY A]

Not to get too far off topic but is your manifold ceramic coated or did you paint it yourself?

BTW, nice numbers EclipseRydazz! I hope I can do as well on my EVO3 16G.

Doesnt look coated, it will burn off and smoke really bad and then turn a ugly white ish looking colors and the just burn off


I painted mine just to take engine bay shots