done with maint.

[snakeyes711]

So, after buying this basket case its coming together nice. So heres what I have done so far.

New transmission
Changed fluid in tranny, case, and rear diff.
new Transfer case
St. 1 exedy clutch
both front drive shafts
attached rear drive shaft, and got it bolted in.
Timing belt kit/new pulleys, and water pump
I did the basic stuff too, cleaned the IC, cut the back panel out. removed plug in BCS rest.
reset WOT, adjusted clutch travel. fixed boost leaks.

Is there anything I have forgotten to do you can think of tell me. Oh, I need to check base timing. It should be +5 at Idle?

I've basically done all the preventative maint. that was neglected when I bought the car.

I was going to get a 190, and a small 16g, and have it tuned but what else should I do that needs done first?

oh, I did a 2g exhaust manifold with new gaskets today the old manifold has about a half dozen cracks in it one almost wrapped all the way around between #2, and #3 on the right side of the turbo

I been shopping for a boost gauge for it. I can't seem to find a good two gauge combo. I was going to get boos t,and oil pressure.

 

[habitatguy187]

who stole the jelly out your doughnut , i said you should get a tuning program i.e. dsmlink, ok I should have said e.g. my bad, but then you go on and tell him the same thing, to get a logger and even said it yourself as an option get the link, that said and you obviously now your stuff can you put me straight on this as im now having trouble on understanding how you can put injectors that have a longer pulse width in to a car and not dial them in to the ecu, im not saying you cant but with what ive read it just dose not make sense.

Sorry if I sounded like a jerk, it's just that I get tired of everyone's solution being, "get dsmlink"

As far as the injectors go, the 2gmaf reads less airflow one a 1g car, so less air tells the ecu less fuel. The 2gmaf reads aprox. 25% less air, and the 550 injectors flow a little less than 25% more than the maf, so you'll turn out a little lean. It's a pretty decent combonation and many people have ran it including myself. (running it currently)

 

[debbie]

Sorry if I sounded like a jerk, it's just that I get tired of everyone's solution being, "get dsmlink"

As far as the injectors go, the 2gmaf reads less airflow one a 1g car, so less air tells the ecu less fuel. The 2gmaf reads aprox. 25% less air, and the 550 injectors flow a little less than 25% more than the maf, so you'll turn out a little lean. It's a pretty decent combonation and many people have ran it including myself. (running it currently)

ah thanks for that,

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

Since when did the 2g maf read less airflow than a stock 1g? Thats the whole purpose of the swap or the evo maf swap. Is to be able to read more air. Also, its bad to advise someone to not tune the car. Do it properly or don't do it at all. The whole package for what you should need goes as follows for what the OP is looking to do.

1. 190 pump
2. 550 injectors
3. 2g maf with filter and intake tube
4. pocket logger
5. Wideband (not critical but good to have)
6. AFC to tune
7. Intercooler piping with a smic or fmic

With all that equipment, you should have a VERY nice setup.

James

 

[habitatguy187]

Since when did the 2g maf read less airflow than a stock 1g? Thats the whole purpose of the swap or the evo maf swap. Is to be able to read more air. Also, its bad to advise someone to not tune the car. Do it properly or don't do it at all.

No, it reads less air, which is why you'd run extremely lean with a 2g maf and stock injectors, so you put in 550s because they'll pump out more fuel in a smaller pulse width than the 450s. Under boost it can read more air than a 1g though.
And it's not a bad idea, the ecu fuel trims can clean up any inconsistency or miscalculation of the injector size since it's not a large difference. As long as you have a logger and can watch for knock you'll be fine with this setup, as I said, the fuel trims will take care of the slight miscalculation.

 

[snakeyes711]

Thanks for you guys help BTW, So is this why when it was over boosting it was spiking to 20psi then coming back, because the ecu was pulling timing? Now I'd talked to some one interested in a logger crap! So should I keep it boosting 16psi when I put the 190 on, and rewire it?

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

The ECU doesn't control boost. The wastegate does. Port the wastegate and it should stop or cut back on the spike. Also, just becuase there is no knock, doesnt mean it isnt lean. Thats why a AFC is a good investment for your situation. Or a dsmchip.

James

 

[snakeyes711]

What I was saying is boosting that high may ran lean, and detected knock? then would the computer pull timing. But I understand the tuning part of this is pretty critical to the life of this engine. I have had to do things by priority first off, and on a budget if you know what I mean. So should I keep it at 16 even with teh 190 until I can get a logger or tune?

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

I would run stock wastegate pressure until you get everything you need. Esp, if its spiking.

James laser:

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

No, it reads less air, which is why you'd run extremely lean with a 2g maf and stock injectors, so you put in 550s because they'll pump out more fuel in a smaller pulse width than the 450s. Under boost it can read more air than a 1g though.

Nice try. Wrong. It doesn't read 20 percent less, its the amount of air being flowed through the MAF at the same counts as the 1g. So, its 20% MORE airflow at the same hz. Which is why you run lean. The ecu "thinks" it has a certain amount of mass of air, when really its more.

Here is a link to what STEVE, the wiseman says about this.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/289786-1g-2g-maf-swap.html#post151561772

James

 

[banshee04]

Since all the maint is done, now the fun mods come in effect

 

[dsm-onster]

Nice try. Wrong. It doesn't read 20 percent less, its the amount of air being flowed through the MAF at the same counts as the 1g. So, its 20% MORE airflow at the same hz. Which is why you run lean. The ecu "thinks" it has a certain amount of mass of air, when really its more.

Here is a link to what STEVE, the wiseman says about this.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/289786-1g-2g-maf-swap.html#post151561772

James

That post to which you've refered clearly shows that the 2g maf reads a lower hertz number than the 1g maf. Steve: ". . .all the extra air that the 2G MAF flows at the same counts as a 1G MAF". So it does read less. Here's his next post in that thread. Steve is right and you are wrong. BTW Steve is a nice guy. You should PM him if you're interesting in knowing exactly how an ecu works. He's a master of his field.

I know you're trying to be enthusiastic, but do everyone a favor and don't be so rude. That would be a 'nice try'.

 

[snakeyes711]

Alright guys heres a question. If I get a palm pilot, and I found a cable. How or where would I get the programs for it?

 

[oldman420]

mmcdi or tunerstein. free downloads all over the place but i'm sure a member on here would have a clean version they'd be happy to send you.

 

[habitatguy187]

Alright guys heres a question. If I get a palm pilot, and I found a cable. How or where would I get the programs for it?

I also have a couple word documents that break down the ecu and tuning very well, as well as understanding what a log means, I can send them via email if you'd like, just send me a pm.

 

[snakeyes711]

DOes it matter what I get? I was looking at a few sony PDA's.

 

[snakeyes711]

I found an inexpensive sony clie j33. could I connect the cord to that, and run it?

 

[habitatguy187]

I found an inexpensive sony clie j33. could I connect the cord to that, and run it?

Just about any palm pilot should work, I think mmcd's website has a list of compatible palms??

Just buy something like an old palm 3c from ebay for like $20 shipped.

 

[snakeyes711]

Right on I found that list. I also finally understood the wiring scheme for a aldl cable.

 

[snakeyes711]

I found a palm tungsten E for cheap. I hope its compatible.

 

[toofast82]

I bought my palm m130 color screen for like $20shipped on Ebay

 

[snakeyes711]

I bought my palm m130 color screen for like $20shipped on Ebay

Yeah, even though I didn't see anything about them not being compatible. I'm not going to chance it. I'll be looking for a m100, or m500 series thats known to work to be safe.

 

[habitatguy187]

Yeah, even though I didn't see anything about them not being compatible. I'm not going to chance it. I'll be looking for a m100, or m500 series thats known to work to be safe.

I'm also using a palm m130, I believe that all the palm m100 series are compatible.

 

[snakeyes711]

ok, I found a palm 505 for 30 bucks. on mmcd it lists that as known to be compatible.

 

[snakeyes711]

Well I did a few runs a the local track last night. I came out with a et of 9.3 I only got to do 3 runs. I arrived just in time to enter a street class race. When I got down there I didn't have a number or dial in on the car. Theguy said wheresz your number, I said they didn't write it on the side? he said forget it whats your number. I said 34 (Kevin Schantz) he said you got a dial in? I said...Uhh? The other guy yelled AIM HIGH! I said 9 sec. He said?...you sure? I said yeah. First run in the car It ran 9.38. Pretty good for an educated guess! The thing is I seen lots of 5.0's, and other cars running high 8's there. I know after I get some tuning on this car I could get the time waay down. The other thing is I was running on pump gas! I had fun over all. I'm going to scan my et slip, oh BTW its a 1/8th track.

 

[snakeyes711]

CHeck it out. They added a 7 on my number. I guess they already had that number car entered. But hey, that the numbers for Yoshimura!