Do you think this is solid or hollow tubing?

[Ludachris]

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Just wondering what kind of tubing that would be. It looks like rectangular aluminum hollow tubing to me. Where would you find that?

 

[jemsoccer]

Probably hollow.

McMaster-Carr

Just select your sizes and thicknesses!

 

[99gst_racer]

Chris, I'm 99.9% sure that's hollow. I couldn't imagine that they would use solid stock for a piece like that.

I pulled the fenders off my 1G a while back to see if a set of those could be made for it. There doesn't seem to be any good place to anchor it to. Not to mention that the 1G's are much stronger looking in that area compared to the EVOs.


This is probably the dimension that they used: Order Aluminum 6063 Rectangle Tube in Small Quantities at OnlineMetals.com

 

[asexton6969]

I would have to agree, that is most definately got to be hollow.

 

[Ludachris]

Anyone have a pic of this area on a 1G with the fender off the car?

Not that I don't believe you Paul. I'm just curious.

 

[fhudsonjr]

What's its purpose?

 

[Ludachris]

What's its purpose?

It stiffens the chassis and improves handling. The two articles I read about this mod on an Evo were very glowing. I don't know that it will help the DSM as much as the Evo, which is strange since the Evo chassis is supposed to be stiffer than the DSM, but it still has the potential to improve handling - even if it's just a little.

 

[housegsx]

I don't think that is aluminum.

 

[Hal]

Chris,

Al Reco is a great local source for Aluminum.

Sold by the pound.

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[bpestilence]

Agree. Looks like steel square stock that is painted silver. Aluminum welds have a certain look to them.

 

[turbosax2]

I pulled the fenders off my 1G a while back to see if a set of those could be made for it. There doesn't seem to be any good place to anchor it to. Not to mention that the 1G's are much stronger looking in that area compared to the EVOs.[/url]

Dang, 2g's are the same way, no good place to anchor. You would probably have to weld a tab to the chassis with a stud sticking out as an anchor spot (or something like that), then the brace could be a bolt on.

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Here's one a guy fabbed for his Evo with round tubing.
Feedback requested: Fender brace design - evolutionm.net

 

[dsmfa9nutter]

Has to be steel. Doesn't look like aluminum at all.

 

[kahl23]

Dang, 2g's are the same way, no good place to anchor. You would probably have to weld a tab to the chassis with a stud sticking out as an anchor spot (or something like that), then the brace could be a bolt on.

There's always a way to make a chassis more rigid. You just need to think triangulation triangulation triangulation. Read and be inspired: Opera Performance Honda S2000 - Sport Compact Car Magazine (the third page is where the real magic is).

 

[turbosax2]

There's always a way to make a chassis more rigid. You just need to think triangulation triangulation triangulation. Read and be inspired: Opera Performance Honda S2000 - Sport Compact Car Magazine (the third page is where the real magic is).

True, but that's a lot more involved and expensive than a bolt-on fender brace.

 

[Ludachris]

Dang, 2g's are the same way, no good place to anchor. You would probably have to weld a tab to the chassis with a stud sticking out as an anchor spot (or something like that), then the brace could be a bolt on.

Looks like you could do something with the hole where the wire loom attaches... though it might require reinforcing it somehow... or hell, just drill a hole a few inches before that hole and use a nut/bolt to secure it for those who don't have the means to do any welding.

 

[Ludachris]

Chris,

Al Reco is a great local source for Aluminum.

Sold by the pound.

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I've heard of that place Hal. I need to get up there and check it out one of these weekends... if they're open on the weekends, that is.

 

[greddy_1700]

Anyone have a pic of this area on a 1G with the fender off the car?

Not that I don't believe you Paul. I'm just curious.

Do you still need the picture? I see the 2g there but if you need the 1g picture still mine is sitting at home in the garage with no front end body parts.

 

[Ludachris]

Do you still need the picture? I see the 2g there but if you need the 1g picture still mine is sitting at home in the garage with no front end body parts.

Yes, please. It will prevent me from having to take my fender off.

 

[greddy_1700]

Alright, give me 6 hours . I am just at work but when I get home I will snag a quick picture and post it up.

 

[turbosax2]

Looks like you could do something with the hole where the wire loom attaches... though it might require reinforcing it somehow... or hell, just drill a hole a few inches before that hole and use a nut/bolt to secure it for those who don't have the means to do any welding.

I'll have to take a closer look at it again, but I'm pretty sure you can't pass a bolt through that lip because it's not really a "lip", there's more body behind there. Now you really have me wanting to fab these up and see if they really do anything. Can I borrow your TIG

 

[Ludachris]

I'll have to take a closer look at it again, but I'm pretty sure you can't pass a bolt through that lip because it's not really a "lip", there's more body behind there. Now you really have me wanting to fab these up and see if they really do anything. Can I borrow your TIG

Come by the house - I'll let you use it.

I think just welding them up would be the easiest solution - or maybe welding a bung to the sheet metal. It's possible. I just don't know what the results would be, but it seems worth the effort in trying it.

 

[housegsx]

I'll have to take a closer look at it again, but I'm pretty sure you can't pass a bolt through that lip because it's not really a "lip", there's more body behind there. Now you really have me wanting to fab these up and see if they really do anything. Can I borrow your TIG

I don't know that it would really be worth it on a 2g due to the suspension design (just like a strut tower bar isn't). A brace like that doesn't look like it would keep the area where the control arms bolt up in place any more than it already is.

 

[greddy_1700]

Here are the photo's. Dont mind the one random small hole in the pictures, it appears to have been drilled in by the previous owner.

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[Slippi84]

If you could find a way to flatten that lip so you could go over it you could probably get away with rigging something up.

 

[Lofty]

Looks like hollow steel. I have tubing EXACTLY like that at work, with the end flanges and everything.

Also, TIG looks like butter, and looks like it's REALLY smooth.

Mig is more rough.

Looks like steel that's been migged and painted.