CrankWalk Poll [merged]

[ChrisHKS]

im starting this forum like a poll. i want to know (and sure others too) how many of you tuners have actually gotten crank walk on there 2g and wanna hear all the people that havent. please just leave a reply if u have gotten it or not. thanx-greatly appreciated

just wanna see how common everyone makes it seem

 

[pilotleston]

HiFiGSX, you didn´t understand what I asked you about; I meant if there could be a posibility of that the percentages you stated could have been affected because of the number of cars of each year that are nowadays. What I mean is that could be a possibility that there are plenty more 1997 turbo DSMs on the streets that any other year´s. I am founding this idea in the fact that (just over the internet, which is my only posible contact with the US streets and DSM scene due to my location) most of the webpages (related to 2G DSMs) I visited where about a 1997, so this could affect severely your research due to a "biased database" (by this last term (which I found in a translator) I mean that from the whole quantity of cars in the streets there are very differente percentages of the different years, being the 97s the biggest one(talking about 2Gs only).

By the way, I have already read the whole thread before posting the previous messages.

 

[ChrisHKS]

i agree pilot.

i also bring up another question of your research: what is the percentage of crankwalks compared to all 2gs manufactured??
meaning that those %'s you posted were based on crankwalk cases.
im asking for the % of CW cases out of every 2g manufactured(being 100%).. this may seem somewhat unclear but im trying to explain as good as possible. let me know if its unclear. thanx

 

[HiFiGSX]

Good questions fellas and to tell you the truth the info I posted is all the info I have besides the cars I have looked at myself. The problem is this, there are many many DSMs out there rolling around that have it and don't know they do, so without knowing how many cases there really are out there there is no way to compare that number to the number of total DSMs sold.

This is pointless really because I bet there are a few DSMs on here that have crankwalk and don't know it yet, I didn't know it till I did a little research and had it checked by dropping the bottom end. By then it was too late. With so many little quirky things that go wrong with DSMs (Lifter tick, poorly adjusted clutches Leaky cylinders/slave and master etc, etc) Crankwalk is often over looked and isn't caught till it is too late and sometimes isn't caught till after the car goes on to some other poor soul.

So there is no need to (cry) or even (worry) about it... Just build a 6 bolt and go about your business! The motor is a better platform anyway so there really is no down side to it. I will own another 2G and will continue to own this one, but I will DEFINETLY build 6 bolt motors for any 2g car I own. Period... good luck and happy modding, I have givin my 2 pennies on this topic

 

[pilotleston]

I thought that it would be pointless to says what I said because there is no way to have accurate measures about it, but also thought that maybe it could be done a "full research" at least with all the people in the DSM sites, maybe making polls, for instance when you sign in for the first time in the forum and things like that, right?

 

[pilotleston]

Also would like to know what would you recommend to me as I live in a place where neither 2Gs nor 1Gs are common (7 bolts are in 2Gs and 6 in 1Gs, right?) so finding an engine is very difficult.

As I already said, I didn´t even check my car for CW, but I plan to do it soon (just 31k miles on it).

 

[drewstealth94]

I'm looking to buy a 95 tsi awd right now. How could i find out what its production date is.

 

[jim97gst]

To find the production date, get a Chiltons manual. I'm pretty sure there is a secret decoder ring in there to translate the VIN into english. I've got one at home if you don't want to buy one and just need that info.

 

[HyperGSX]

I think this thread is scaring all 2g DSM owners

 

[gsx97]

87.000 on a 97 gsx nothing yet

 

[ChrisHKS]

i didnt make this thread to scare anyone. i made it to prove a point:that crank walk on 2g's are way overrated. i personally prefer the 2g cuz i just like it, period.

2g poll update: 8 walking- 28 non-walking
thats: 22% - 78%

not much of change from the 1st %

 

[HATED1]

no crankwalk yet but i think i have signs 72,000 miles

 

[GSXTCY]

I must say that CW was the best thing that ever happen to my car. I am actually glad that I had cw, 3000 miles ago. And I am serious.

 

[Spinall4]

Originally posted by drewstealth94
I'm looking to buy a 95 tsi awd right now. How could i find out what its production date is.

Just pop open the door, theres a sticker right there that says the build date.
My car has 109,xxx miles cw free(I think i'm in the clear, I have an early 2g[december 94] and mine is a/t)

 

[Boostspike]

i heard the WAV on c/w.. is that sound from a car at idle???? or was the car revved??

Originally posted by FourG63 97GST
89xxxk miles. no crankwalk as of yet.

heard a knocking sometime like 1500-2000 miles ago.
i heard a mp3/wav on of how crankwalk sounds http://www.junkyardtunning.com/eclipse/movie.htm but mine knocking didn't sounds like that. so i'm safe I guess.

anyknow know how accurate that mp3 is?

 

[HiFiGSX]

Originally posted by ChrisHKS
i didnt make this thread to scare anyone. i made it to prove a point:that crank walk on 2g's are way overrated. i personally prefer the 2g cuz i just like it, period.

2g poll update: 8 walking- 28 non-walking
thats: 22% - 78%

not much of change from the 1st %

you really didn't prove anything with this post.. except that there are alot of people who don't think they have it.. I really am willing to bet every mid1995-1999 DSM owner that they do have t to some extent... Like I said.. It is funny when people think it is over rated... I call this the "Ostrich Syndrome."

According to legend, an ostrich will shove its head down in the sand when confronted with something unpleasant. I have encountered more than a few DSM owners who take a similar stance when faced with even a possibility that their cars might have or might get crankwalk. What you don’t know won’t hurt you, they seem to think. It may not hurt your car now, but it can hurt your car later!

The Ostrich Syndrome can damage car and owners in a number of ways. The ignorance, denial and fear it fosters in most DSMers can prevent crankwalk from being identified and studied early enough to keep it from destroying your wallet or checking account along with the car! Cars which develop a reputation for being "disease-ridden" risk rejection by the public -- including that part of it engaged in aftermarket parts. No racer or sponsor wants a sickly or crippled race car.

I cannot fathom why someone would heap scorn upon the DSMer who makes an honest admission that he has had a problem with crankwalk and has spoken personally with over 1,800 other owners who have also.. This reaction is a form of "shooting the messenger". Should some poor soul discover that his car has the problem and try to share this information with the "Ostrich Syndrome" infected DSMers, he may find that the DSMers shoot him. Responses that can range from ignoring his advice to abusive language and even threats. As a person who is something of a full-time messenger, I’ve experienced this more than once.

I will stick to my guns and continue to preach the truth about this. again I just want people to be aware so they can start saving NOW and avoid having their only means of transportation crater beneath them and leave them stranded, having to hitch hike to work... I look at it from a realist point of view not an Ostrich point of view... The 2g motor WILL crater on you at some point, but why worry about it, just be ready for when it does!

 

[ChrisHKS]

HifiGsx, i appreciate your concern for the 2g owners and your research. But you give us this magical number "1800" CW victims but have not yet confirmed the the actual number of 2g's manufactured. Lets say 10,000(example) 2g's were manufactured between 95-99. with your information of 1800 cases, thats 18% reported cases of crankwalk:not as threataning as it seems to be. so again, that was just an example. if you could just give us a rangeof 2g's produced, your research could be taken to another level. you get what im sayin??

 

[Thalomos]

You guys do realize, that 18% and 23% are VERY high numbers... that'd be like saying.. 20% of the people in the world are going to die tommorow... dont worry, it wont happen to you, it's only 20% (1/4th the population)

20% may not seem like much, untill it happens to you.

Transfer Case lock-ups may not happen often, but it happened to me, and thats all that matters. So i'm curious on how serious this transfer case thing is...

Oh and i have 112k miles, no CrankWalk.

 

[Thalomos]

And he says 1800 people that have reported about it.. god knows how many people are out there with their stock GS-T grocery getters that dont get on these boards, and get crankwalk, and dont know what the hell it is, and just go and get it fixxed...

 

[HiFiGSX]

Exactly my point Thalomos, it is easy to come up with a "solid" number of how many DSMs were made but it makes NO difference since we can't get a total number of crankwalk cases... My email (that I gathered the Crankwalk cases with) was posted in one spot for about a year, that was on the Magnus Motorsport Crankwalk theory page. The email is now dead yet people have seemed to track me down to get me the info. I am getting about 3-4 new cases reported a week and don't even have a published email for that anymore... So the total number of DSMs produced would make absolutely no difference in relationship to my info because I don't have the total number of crankwalk cases to relate to it. Do you see my point? I agree 100% that if we could get EVERYONE who has crankwalk to report it (even the Ostrichs ) then my guess is that we could get something done about it via Mitsubishi but that won't ever happen because people keep sticking their heads in the sand... That leaves us the option of swapping in a 6 bolt which I recommend to EVERY 2g owner... It can't hurt and when you know your going to have to come up with $800-$3000 for a new motor at some point it becomes alot less painful to the back pocket than when it sneaks up on you. That's all I am saying!

 

[pasths]

The warranty covered it, because I bought an aftermarket warranty. I bought the car with 77000 and got a 3 year 45000 mile warranty. Of course I had to take all the mods out before putting car in the shop.

 

[custom240sx]

75K miles no crank walk

 

[DSMJim]

70k miles and no crankwalk. I have warranty to 90k too..

 

[Enraged78]

158,000 and no crankwalk. Earliest build I have seen yet. 4/94. Just out of curiosity, though. I am going to need an engine rebuild eventually. I wanted to go with either a 2.4 stroker kit, or an 'open deck'(?) ring job. In other words, I don't want to pull my stock crank out of the car if it is going to offset the crank enough to stress the thrust bearing and walk. With 160K on the clock, I'm pretty sure I'm safe for right now, but what about after a rebuild?

 

[navytsi]

80k, and skipped my timing belt but not in the traditional c/w way my hydrolic-tensionior went out causing c/w?

 

[Newlogics]

Has anyone complained about CW to mitsubishi ?
What kind of response did you guys get ?

I'm sure it can be reported to some sort of consumer protection agency.

I hate when it takes someone to die because of crank failure for Mutsu to act on it.
I have '91 1G which gave me a scare recently, but it turned out ot be a tranny (whew..)