clutch master cylinder?

[DSM "BISH"]

hey all i have just finished puttin a brand new clutchmaster stage 2 clutch, flywheel, pressure plate, and new throwout bearing on my 93 eagle talon turbo FWD. i also put on a new slave cylinder. i adjusted the clutch switch to manufactures specs. made sure all bolts where torqued to specs and adjusted the clutch pedal freeplay to manufactures specs. if the car isnt running i can put it into gear fine nice and smooth and crisp. when i have the car on, however, i can not get it into gear. it grinds and if i try to pull on it, say to get it into second gear the idle goes down and the car begins to die. there is still a lot of freeplay in the pedal it catchers near the floor but not enough. could this be the clutch master cylinder being defective? mine has a slight leak from the rear seal of the clutch master cylinder that you can see if your looking up from the floorboard.

any help would be greatly appreciated beacuse its beginning to become a lot of aggrivation and im just left scratching my head!

 

[HighFlowDSM]

it could have been a bad one.Did you bleed the clutch when you put the new slave cylinder in? and if you did then then check if you slave rod is moving back and fourth that means your getting pressure....also it might be defective because sometimes new parts can be just go and exchange it for a new one if you have a recipt.....but it shouldnt leak.

 

[DSM "BISH"]

well the the clutch master sylinder is what is leaking. the slave cylinder on the front of the tranny is what i changer and it was bled and the rod out of that has been checked for proper movement and it looks fine so ive pretty much narrowed it down to the clutch master cylinder i suppose.

 

[turboglenn]

sounds like you just need to adjust it some. I'm not sure if it's the same on a 1g as it is on a 2g, but on the 2g there's just a rod with a nut that goes through the firewalland hooks to the pedal. Loosen the jam nut and turn the rod clockwise or "in to the firewall" based on looking at it from the driver floorboard. make 2 -3 complete turns and test it. You don't want too much extra clutch travel and you dont' want to little... drive it around and get it to where it's about fully engaged while being about half way up or a little less

 

[duwackerTSi69]

Like they all say.. Make sure its adjusted right and go from there? But felleas, he did say that it was leeking fluid into his drivers floorboard?? To the OP, are you sure that all you hoses and your lines are tight and not leaking in anyway that conect to the master cylinder?? For adjusting you can goto Jackstransmissions.com and they have some good insightfull videos on clutch and tranny adjustments??

 

[duwackerTSi69]

What the hell, heres the link to make it easier for ya..
Transmission Videos

 

[DSM "BISH"]

sweet thank you guys so much that is why i love these forums! all of the lines are tight and none are leaking its just that i think the black rubber cap on the back of the slave master cylinder wasnt all the way on ### it was seepeing but not like running or even dripping out.

turboglenn the 1g adjustment is the same. i was looking at that yesterday and went ahead and lossend the nut and the "U" bracket that you have to spin. now i just have to take the two bolts holding the slave master to the firewall to gain access to be able to turn it down the shaft.

so today i will adjust it and then i will let you guys know what happens!

 

[spyderturbo007]

mine has a slight leak from the rear seal of the clutch master cylinder that you can see if your looking up from the floorboard.

If it's leaking, it needs to be replaced.

 

[DSM "BISH"]

yea the threads that the u clip screw onto where messed up anyways so i got a new one and bench bled it propely then found out the plate that is on the firewall that the clutch master cylinder goes through is cracked and is breaking so looks like i found my next project!

 

[spyderturbo007]

Have fun with that.

It's not hard to install, but it's really annoying because of the lack of space under the dash and the fact that all the blood rushes to your head when you're upside down for that long.

Not fun.

 

[DSM "BISH"]

yea thanks a ton! i found that out when trying to install the new slave master cylinder and trying to adjust it. i was getting so aggrivated. i would adjust it then that wouldnt be enough then i would have to do it again and each time it was like a half and hour just for two turns of adjustment! then i found the broken bracket so now i get to do that.

you said its not hard though besides the lack of space?

 

[spyderturbo007]

Nope, the master is a straight forward installation other than finding a way to squeeze your hand up under the dash while holding tools, and hanging upside down. Just remember, you'll have to adjust the rod and bleed the system once you get it installed

 

[rick_dsm90]

If that doesnt fix it try an extended slave rod from extremepsi. i had the same problem with my clutch the first time and that fixed the problem. even after i replaced the slave and the master cylinders.

second time i had the tranny out i replaced the fork and pivot ball and that helped alot too.

 

[DSM "BISH"]

no, no i got a new slave cylinder on and that worked fine, and i also put a new clutch master cylinder in and i properly bench bled it and adjusted it before i put it in. that all worked great but the actual clutch pedal bracket attached to the firewall cracked and is now broken.