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Can i run a small 16g with these mods. read inside for more info

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TheRealist

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Can i run a small 16g with Walbro 250 Fuelpump, 550c Injectors, Manual boost control, Greddy-type-S BOV, Boost control gauge, With no proplems?
 
You will need some kind of fuel control to run the larger injectors - SAFC/DSMlink etc. Oh, and depending on your power goals, the Walbro 255lph is unneeded. A 190lph will be just fine, that way you don't need an AFPR.

If you want to run the 255lph, then add AFPR to your list.
 
255 with no Afpr is not good. With the 255 your actually trying to shove to much fuel down your cars throat. Get a afpr and something to tune with and yes your fine.
 
As a matter of fact, that's exactly the same setup I'm running. I'd say just get the 255 and make sure its the high pressure one, its good insurance.
 
So basicaly small 16g turbo i can run it on, 190 Fuel Pump, 550cc Injectors , greddy type-s blow off valve, boost control and boost gauge, i can run that without haveing any proplems? with stock intercoler ect..???
 
will a 16g turbo fit on a automatics gst, or are they difrent? meaning the maunuals are difrent than the automatics or are they the same size of the 16g?
 
TheRealist said:
So basicaly small 16g turbo i can run it on, 190 Fuel Pump, 550cc Injectors , greddy type-s blow off valve, boost control and boost gauge, i can run that without haveing any proplems? with stock intercoler ect..???

like Dark_Horse mentioned you need to invest in some type of fuel management in order to control those large injectors. eiter S-AFC w/ logger or DSMLink.

If you dont get the injectors and only the fuel pump at least get a logger to monitor things. :thumb:
 
You dont need the 550cc injectors if you arnt planing on going any bigger (stock 450cc will run sm16g), and a 190lph pump will be enough and save you money.
 
Why go small 16g when an evoiii 16g is like 50 bucks more, if that much. I don't know what your goals are, but that doesn't seem logical to me. If you're wanting more power, which im guessing you do since you're asking if your engine can handle it, go a little bigger. You aren't going to hurt your car running 15 - 16psi at all. But like everyone else is saying, GET SOMETHING TO TUNE IT WITH. And get a afpr. It'll save you a lot of headache down the road.
 
Auto12 said:
You dont need the 550cc injectors if you arnt planing on going any bigger (stock 450cc will run sm16g), and a 190lph pump will be enough and save you money.

I agree with this if his boost is never turned up above stock (or a little less), but what fun is that?

Oringal poster: Regardless of what fuel system mods you perform, invest in some sort of logger. It is cheap insurance to help make sure things don't blow up. From this and your 250hp thread I get the feeling you are trying to do things as cheaply as possible which is fine (dsms are great for this). That being said, there are areas where you shouldn't skimp or you will have a toasted engine. The high points are fuel delivery, tuning, and logging.

Seth
 
I agree with CanadianTSi. If you do not have the supporting mods to turn the boost up, it is no point. Included in supporting mods, would be an exhaust. I have not seen anywhere that you have mentioned an exhaust. Before you do injectors, pump, and turbo. I would definitely spend that money on a nice exhaust. With you planning on pushing more air into your engine, you definitely need the means to get the exhaust out faster than what the stock can do. If you already have an exhaust well my bad, but you need to update your profile. I think everyone else as already stressed the importance of a tuning device. :thumb:
 
spyderturbo007 said:
I have been meaning to ask you.......what's your peak airflow on the 50 trim at 24psi?

Are you still on the stock HG and head studs?

Couldn't tell you as the car is away for the winter. I'll see if I can look up some old logs on the logger.

And yes still stock Gasket and Studs, that will all change over the winter though as I'm adding a Magnus and some nice cams.
 
i do not have an exuast, Another quistion: is it even worth modding automatic cars, with bigger turbos and shyt? is it worth it? *i have an automatic car*
 
i have heard that the small 16g is the way to go on an automatic one advantage they have is you can keep them into boost better and get off line with boost because of brake and gas petal because there is no clutch to push. 5-speeds just more fun and you have more control or motor and stuff and all the other advantages of a 5-speed but i wouldnt say its a wast of time.
 
when putting turbo's and shyt on a automatic do you have to go with the same tuneing? also can i run a small 16g on stock injectors? and just get 190 fuel pump and boost no more than 17psi? without haveing proplems?
 
I still don't understand the reasoning for getting the small 16g though. You aren't going to push that much more power with it. However, if you're looking for power, do all the supporting mods too. You aren't going to see substantial gains from just changing the turbo because you can't boost much higher at all. Everyone else is stressing getting the supporting mods; as do I. Worry about the turbo later.
 
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