Best brake setup

[defaced]

This spring I'm going to be upgrading my brakes because my stock ones on my GSX suck so bad. I'm looking for the best stock replacement rotors for the front and rear and some good brake pads. I don't want a big brake upgrade because I don't want to spend that much money. My GSX is my daily driver, I never go to the track, I don't race, just daily driving. I'm just looking for better stopping power. I was just confused on the slotted, drilled, and dimpled, I don't know which are better, what they do, and which are the best for daily driving. All help would be appreciated, and maybe places where I can buy the products for a good price. Thanks in advance.

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[Staytuned]

I would go with some good quality slotted rotors with EBC Redstuff pads or PBR Metal masters. I do not know who has the best prices....but I am sure that anyone of the site sponsor's would be able to help you.

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[defaced]

Do the brake pads wear faster with slotted rotors though? I've heard that they do but I've only heard that from one of my friends, so I just wanna check. I'm not going to base my belief off of one person.

 

[Staytuned]

You will be fine on a daily driver.... pads will wear faster if you stop harder or you go lapping on a track.

Don't worry about it.

 

[pyrex]

if you use your brakes a lot while going fast, make a habbit of using your e brake when stopped at say a light (not to stop the car) to prevent warpping the rotors with a hot pad clamped on one spot. the slots should allow for trapped hot gases and debris to escape from between the pad and rotor preventing warpped rotor. also, look for a brake rotor with centrifical vains that draw air though the disc to cool the rotor, this with help fight brake fade (sucky braking) also try not to get rotors made of the same material as stock brakes, if the new rotor are made a material with a higher melting point and or higher specific heat capacity, the rotor can absorbs more energy before warping. hope some of this makes sense. once this brake rotor and pad exceed about .6 or .7 of the critical temperature of the material, they with deform when used, so cooling ability and the lenght of use is important to remember. this i jus the tip of the iceburg. If you have any questions about theory, pm me and I will try to help you out.

good luck

 

[defaced]

Yeah, that made sense. Thanks for the info.

So should I go for Brembo or Power Slot? Or are they pretty much the same in quality? I'm probably going to go with the Metal Master brake pads too.

 

[Staytuned]

I would say Power Slot with Metal Master pads. Maybe throw in some SS lines too.

 

[jtmcinder]

Now I agree with you: almost any rotors and some Metal Masters. The earlier idea of putting EBC Reds on a street car was, to be gentle, a little crazy.

- Jtoby

 

[defaced]

I would say Power Slot with Metal Master pads. Maybe throw in some SS lines too.

Ok thanks, I guess that's the route I'm going to go then.

I was thinking about some SS lines but I think I'm going to wait a little longer for those. I just want to get the rotors and pads replaced first, and then if I feel I need the SS lines I'll get those.

Thank you to everyone that helped, I really appreciate it. You guys were very helpful. That's why I love this site .

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[prostreetdsmx1]

Ok thanks, I guess that's the route I'm going to go then.

I was thinking about some SS lines but I think I'm going to wait a little longer for those. I just want to get the rotors and pads replaced first, and then if I feel I need the SS lines I'll get those.

Thank you to everyone that helped, I really appreciate it. You guys were very helpful. That's why I love this site .

defaced

a SS line kit makes a world of a difference. When you do a complete upgrade with rotors, pads and lines you will see a significant overall improvement.

You do have to watch out for some of the rotors out there though. There are plenty of places that take a drill to a rotor and sell it as a "race rotor".

PBR-Metal Master pads are our personal favorites, i even run them on my own GSX. We use them on everything from drift, street and auto cross cars.

Brembo rotors are bad ass. We have never once had a single one crack out of the hundreds sold, nor have we had any complaints of pre-mature warping.

We have great success with our kit and there have even been reviews on this board about it. Please feel free to give me a call or something if you have any specific brake questions.

 

[Staytuned]

Now I agree with you: almost any rotors and some Metal Masters. The earlier idea of putting EBC Reds on a street car was, to be gentle, a little crazy.

- Jtoby

We have run EBC reds on the street here and there were no complaints..thats why I mentioned them. I thought they were a good street/track pad.

Steve

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

We have run EBC reds on the street here and there were no complaints..thats why I mentioned them. I thought they were a good street/track pad.

Steve

The EBC Red is a good pad but it takes too long to warm up for my taste. When i am driving a car on the street i want the best response. Not to mention that they tend to squeel a little in the cold. I am an EBC dealer too so i am not bashing it at all. I just think the PBR response better on the street.

 

[jtmcinder]

I hear you, but I wouldn't give up the better bite of greens for a pad that can handle temps that the guy who started the thread will never see. A 800*F pad is quite sufficient, so the greens are - IMO - a better choice for the street.

- Jtoby

 

[Staytuned]

I was just going by our own results here. They seemed to work good ....I am going with PBR's myself this summer.

 

[ozzeran]

a SS line kit makes a world of a difference. When you do a complete upgrade with rotors, pads and lines you will see a significant overall improvement.

You do have to watch out for some of the rotors out there though. There are plenty of places that take a drill to a rotor and sell it as a "race rotor".

PBR-Metal Master pads are our personal favorites, i even run them on my own GSX. We use them on everything from drift, street and auto cross cars.

Brembo rotors are bad ass. We have never once had a single one crack out of the hundreds sold, nor have we had any complaints of pre-mature warping.

We have great success with our kit and there have even been reviews on this board about it. Please feel free to give me a call or something if you have any specific brake questions.

Are you referring to brembo oem rotors or there performance rotors?

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

as far as what we use they are brembo.

 

[jtmcinder]

Are you referring to brembo oem rotors or there performance rotors?

Maybe I'm a bit uptight, but please don't write things like "Brembo OEM rotors." Please write "Brembo blanks" or "Brembo OE-style rotors." Maybe Mitsubishi puts Brembos on new Evos, but they sure as heck didn't put Brembos on DSMs.

- Jtoby

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

they sure as heck didn't put Brembos on DSMs.

we do.

They are brembo OE replacement rotors.

 

[ozzeran]

we do.

They are brembo OE replacement rotors.

ok thx and i didnt know mitsu didnt use brembos on the dsm. based on brembos cost i figured they did.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

power slot plus...ebc greenstuff pads...ss lines. great street and occaisional track days. my .02

jim

 

[eclipspyderman]

I are the Metal Masters good for a Daily driver. Because I've heard that they aren't good until you warm them up a bit. And that it takes more pedal to get your car to stop?

 

[cait sith]

EBC Greens are junk pads. Dust like hell, no grip, no nothing. EBC has a good marketing campaign. That's it.

Go get Porterfield R4S's if you want the best STREET pad you can buy. Don't bother with any silly "JDM" pads (Endless, Project Mu), they're all too low cF rated for the price you're paying for them.

Get blank rotors. I like Brembo, but that's because I got them cheap. No slots, no drills, no BS.

If you want to change the feel of the pedal, then stainless lines will do that.

 

[WillyC]

I'll have to disagree about the EBC Green's being junk. I use them with my slotted, cross drilled Brembos and they work great. I have actually been in a couple of situations where if I had my stock setup back on the car I would have wrecked, i.e. people pulling out in front of me.

 

[cait sith]

I'll have to disagree about the EBC Green's being junk. I use them with my slotted, cross drilled Brembos and they work great. I have actually been in a couple of situations where if I had my stock setup back on the car I would have wrecked, i.e. people pulling out in front of me.

How do you know new stock brakes wouldn't have done the same for you? Have you done testing?

You've lost braking surface area with cross drilling, the slots don't do anything for panic stopping.

Furthermore, you want to stop faster? It's all about tyres.

 

[wortdog]

Maybe I'm a bit uptight, but please don't write things like "Brembo OEM rotors." Please write "Brembo blanks" or "Brembo OE-style rotors." Maybe Mitsubishi puts Brembos on new Evos, but they sure as heck didn't put Brembos on DSMs.

- Jtoby

The engineering drawings available on Brembo's website for 93+ AWD front brake rotors have a Mitsubishi part number on them, MB858799. That doesn't really mean anything, of course, but Brembo could be the OEM supplier for DSM rotors.