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Beginning A Road Racing Adventure.........

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Greg Collier

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Mar 8, 2003
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Like anything new and different there always seems to be a mystery at the beginning of a voyage. I relate a new adventure in my life like going from the sixth grade into Jr. High school. That first day of uncertainty, all masses of people, going from being a big fish in a small pond to being shark bate in a huge ocean. We never lose that insecurity with the idea of starting something we've never done before. Twenty-five years ago I came up with the saying, "if you drop all your excuses all you can do is do." It got around until someone at "Nike" heard it and they shortened it to, "just do it." I never saw a red cent!

Road racing is on its way to becoming a huge phenomenon. There are new clubs and venues springing up from the dust all over the country. I've been fortunate over the years to have been apart of quite a few of these organizations and have found a home with NASA. If you think about it, all these people went from the sixth grade to Jr. High just like you and me. The difference is that they decided to take a chance and try something new. What seemed scary and unattainable was just their own insecurity. Some people will make up so many excuses like I don't have the money and never will, or my car is a big piece of crap belching oil all over the place. So my suggestion would to be save a couple hundred bucks and fix your frigging car! So much for my psychology of self-esteem, and the woulda, shoulda, coulda, syndrome...

Let's say you decide to go for an adventure with NASA. Find the web site for your local region. Sign up for membership at a whopping $40.00. Then sign up for the first event that you can attend. It may be at a racetrack two or three hours away. If you're a beginner, and let's face it, you are probably a beginner with absolutely no racetrack experience in your life, so sign up for HPDE 1. This can all be done online which includes confirmation of your particular event. You can sign up for one or both days of the event.

If the track you're going to is three hours away, you might want to think about reserving a hotel room for the night before. NASA usually has deals with hotels in the area so you can probably get a cheap room for the night or weekend. You most likely won't be able to sleep anyway so it's a good idea to be close to the track for that days festivities. You're gonna have to be there really early anyway, so driving three hours to the track, then to get onboard with all the information would be a real pain in the ass.

Saturday morning of your first event you'll want to be there by 7AM. There's usually a mandatory HPDE drivers meeting at 7:30, then you'll need to get your car tech-ed. You need to show that your brakes are in good working order, your tires aren't bald, you have seatbelts, you don't have a bunch of stuff laying around the car that's going to fly every which way but loose, and you have a regulation helmet.

It'll be time for your first session and you'll take your car and line up in the grid area just before the entrance of the track. At that point a bunch of driving instructors will start jumping in all the passenger seats of your HPDE group. Take their direction and have fun. You won't be starting out driving a 100mph passing everybody like Joe Racer. You'll learn car control taking a slow pace to help make you comfortable with what you're doing. If you're a more advanced driver and the instructor agrees, you can move up to the HPDE 2 group over the course of the weekend. That concept is usually Joe Racer's fallacy.

By the end of the first day you'll have actually learned something about car control and I can almost guarantee you'll make at least a half dozen new friends with the same dream as you. Oh yeah, the amount of women that are turning out for the HPDE groups is growing leaps and bounds...

By the end of the weekend you'll kick yourself for not having done this last year or the year before. You'll definitely be hooked and the next event will not be able to come quick enough.

Racers are good people willing to help anybody out. Sure you have your assholes but that's why they're called "being humans"...

Greg:D
 
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I have a new men's cologne "crankshaft #5" which is just 110 octane racing fuel :p

I would have to say, the wait for the race season to start is the worst. The best part of it, is when I put on that firesuit and climb into my car, strap that 5pnt harness down tight, the butterflies just disappear. When that 4cylinder (straight piped) pig fires up and the rich smell of racing fuel enters my helmet ( the other racing guys know what i mean) all the days problems just go away. When I am on the track, I honestly can't describe it, I basicly become something else. My crew members have asked me about something I did (like a pass or something) and I couldn't remember it. I'd say my mind goes blank and the only thing i see is openings and my # on the score board :p
 
Slapnut said:
I have a new men's cologne "crankshaft #5" which is just 110 octane racing fuel :p

I would have to say, the wait for the race season to start is the worst. The best part of it, is when I put on that firesuit and climb into my car, strap that 5pnt harness down tight, the butterflies just disappear. When that 4cylinder (straight piped) pig fires up and the rich smell of racing fuel enters my helmet ( the other racing guys know what i mean) all the days problems just go away. When I am on the track, I honestly can't describe it, I basicly become something else. My crew members have asked me about something I did (like a pass or something) and I couldn't remember it. I'd say my mind goes blank and the only thing i see is openings and my # on the score board :p
I'm the same way, as soon as I make it to the lot, I've dialed out everything else. On the track I'm in a world of my own.
 
Yep, I can´t even remember how hot the temp was. The only thing I can remember and is because it drives me crazy is when there is a new guy besides me and starts reving the hell out of their engine all the way from the warming up laps like it was a good thing.
 
Greg, this winter cabin fever crap is bad enough as it is, the last thing I needed was you to come in here and start filling my head with sugarplumb fantasies of on track adventures while its 30 degrees and raining outside. :(

I'm taking the car out tomorrow, damnit. It may only go 6 miles, and it may be running too rich to make any power, but I'm taking it out now. I'll tell Kendal that you're to blame :D
 
mavisky said:
Greg, this winter cabin fever crap is bad enough as it is, the last thing I needed was you to come in here and start filling my head with sugarplumb fantasies of on track adventures while its 30 degrees and raining outside. :(

I'm taking the car out tomorrow, damnit. It may only go 6 miles, and it may be running too rich to make any power, but I'm taking it out now. I'll tell Kendal that you're to blame :D


I saw ZERO BARS thread and thought I might address the issue in more detail. I don't think anyone has ever just told how simple it can be to be invloved in the sport...

Yeah, it was 84 degrees here in sunny San Diego today. With no wind to speak of it was down right HOT! They're talking about getting a 10th of an inch of rain on Sunday, but that's so far away it probably won't happen... I guess I'll just have to deal with this damn sunshine all the time:tease:

WHERE'S MY SPEL CHUCK????:mad:
 
Greg Collier said:
I saw ZERO BARS thread and thought I might address the issue in more detail. I don't think anyone has ever just told how simple it can be to be invloved in the sport...

Yeah, it was 84 degrees here in sunny San Diego today. With no wind to speak of it was down right HOT! They're talking about getting a 10th of an inch of rain on Sunday, but that's so far away it probably won't happen... I guess I'll just have to deal with this damn sunshine all the time:tease:

WHERE'S MY SPEL CHUCK????:mad:
Greg, can't you share some of that weather with us???:sosad:
 
Zero Bar said:
Greg, can't you share some of that weather with us???:sosad:


Hey... I was born in Fort Wayne Indiana, moved to Racine Wisconson, lived in Carlton Missouri (for way to long)! I've had it with the changing of the seasons and I hate the frigging cold:notgood: I don't even want to visit it;)
 
Greg Collier said:
I saw ZERO BARS thread and thought I might address the issue in more detail. I don't think anyone has ever just told how simple it can be to be invloved in the sport...

Yeah, it was 84 degrees here in sunny San Diego today. With no wind to speak of it was down right HOT! They're talking about getting a 10th of an inch of rain on Sunday, but that's so far away it probably won't happen... I guess I'll just have to deal with this damn sunshine all the time:tease:

WHERE'S MY SPEL CHUCK????:mad:

25-35 here, steady misting rain all day long.

I agree on the simplicity thing. I had done some corner carving before but kept putting it off as I knew my competitive nature wouldn't handle running street mod in autox with a mostly stock suspension. Once finished though I signed up, showed up, ran, and actually placed pretty well for my rookie season.
 
mavisky said:
25-35 here, steady misting rain all day long.

I agree on the simplicity thing. I had done some corner carving before but kept putting it off as I knew my competitive nature wouldn't handle running street mod in autox with a mostly stock suspension. Once finished though I signed up, showed up, ran, and actually placed pretty well for my rookie season.
It's supposed to hit 60's tomorrow, but then back to reality by saturday.
I ran SM in my turbo car with my stock suspension and street tires for part of the year. I didn't do too bad, I was the fastest of the street tire'd cars in SM. Though I couldn't come close to the cars with R compounds.
 
Zero Bar said:
It's supposed to hit 60's tomorrow, but then back to reality by saturday.
I ran SM in my turbo car with my stock suspension and street tires for part of the year. I didn't do too bad, I was the fastest of the street tire'd cars in SM. Though I couldn't come close to the cars with R compounds.

That was me all year this year, except for the last event where I got beat by an srt4 ACR and my buddy's engine swapped 2.5 rs impreza.
 
The only good side of winter is I don't feel bad about downtime to fix/mod stuff I leaned about at the track. Can't wait for spring and the UPS guy anyway.
 
It's kinda odd this year, I have nothing to fix,WTF ! So I'm just sitting here waiting, though yesterday's weather helped. I'm also waiting on the HPDE schedule to go up and hopefully I can get those out of the way this year and be about ready to race in 07'.:rocks:
 
Zero Bar said:
It's kinda odd this year, I have nothing to fix,WTF ! So I'm just sitting here waiting, though yesterday's weather helped. I'm also waiting on the HPDE schedule to go up and hopefully I can get those out of the way this year and be about ready to race in 07'.:rocks:

I could've swore they posted it on the midwest section of www.nasaforums.com or the midwest nasa site.
 
Zero Bar said:
It's kinda odd this year, I have nothing to fix,WTF ! So I'm just sitting here waiting, though yesterday's weather helped. I'm also waiting on the HPDE schedule to go up and hopefully I can get those out of the way this year and be about ready to race in 07'.:rocks:

Lucky you!!! :D I'd love to have a year when I wasn't doing something to the car before the season starts. :mad: :cry: :sosad:

I'm sure you'll be ready for '07.
 
Yeah, it's nice. Maintanance is all good, all I have to do is buy tires and a new seat and I'm good to go. As for next year, I'll need to finish out the cage if it's a good legal cage, put in the turbo engine in the n/t car, and the rest of te safety items. So there's still a lot to do and I'll need at least a year to be able to get all the stuff together.
I'd seen the schedules already, but nothing about HPDE. Do they hold the HPDE's at every event? If so I could possibly get all 4 done this year. I'll be autocrossing inbetween, so I'll probably go through an entire set just this summer!!OMG
 
Zero Bar said:
Yeah, it's nice. Maintanance is all good, all I have to do is buy tires and a new seat and I'm good to go. As for next year, I'll need to finish out the cage if it's a good legal cage, put in the turbo engine in the n/t car, and the rest of te safety items. So there's still a lot to do and I'll need at least a year to be able to get all the stuff together.
I'd seen the schedules already, but nothing about HPDE. Do they hold the HPDE's at every event? If so I could possibly get all 4 done this year. I'll be autocrossing inbetween, so I'll probably go through an entire set just this summer!!OMG



So Cal NASA runs HPDE in most cases, on all it's race weekends. Where do you plan to run? Ohio - Indiana, or MidWest? I don't think The MidWest Registration is posted as of yet. Ohio- Indiana's Registration is posted in the link above and if you click on the Register button you will see HPDE as one of the choices. If you then click on "HPDE" it breaks it down into #1, 2, 3, and 4.

:)
 
terefic181 said:
So Cal NASA runs HPDE in most cases, on all it's race weekends. Where do you plan to run? Ohio - Indiana, or MidWest? I don't think The MidWest Registration is posted as of yet. Ohio- Indiana's Registration is posted in the link above and if you click on the Register button you will see HPDE as one of the choices. If you then click on "HPDE" it breaks it down into #1, 2, 3, and 4.

:)
I plan to run Ohio/Indiana. Some of the Midwest venues are just out of my reach, especially for just doing the HPDE's. In the future as I have more money and a tow vehicle I'll expand out to some other courses in the midwest.
 
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