513whp, Many Stock Parts

[definitiveno]

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Quit your bitching fool

 

[red91gst]

I thought the red was a 60 trim not a 60-1

*shrugs*

-aaron

Nope.

Nate
SBR

 

[coltboostin]

I thought the red was a 60 trim not a 60-1

*shrugs*

-aaron

Do a 2 minute search and find out for yourself.

 

[Awdboost]

Since my post on this board, I ran a 11.544 @ 128 I couldn't grap traction in first and had to granny shift 1st to 2nd. and I even got squirrel in 2nd.

This is on stock 7-bolt untouched
stock 2G head untouched
stock intake manifold
HKS 272/272

So 7-bolt have more potential then people think.

 

[Steve93Talon]

Since we're kicking a dead horse....

Tort's car has a stock 7 bolt, stock 1G head, stock intake, 264/272s and internal 20g and has gone 11.0s. 134k and holding fine.

I also agree that the 60-1 is a great wheel. Who cares if it's old school, it gets the job done. I'm so sick of everyone jumping on the flavor o' the week bandwagon - especially when they end up running 12s and would rather pop their hood and brag about their big, bad turbo than actually tune/drive well.

 

[Awdboost]

Was that a 2G head Or 1G head?

 

[93AWDTalon1]

I'll get the Dyno sheet posted later this evening.

Nate
Slowboy Racing Inc

You never did post your dyno sheet

 

[Stapl3]

Since my post on this board, I ran a 11.544 @ 128 I couldn't grap traction in first and had to granny shift 1st to 2nd. and I even got squirrel in 2nd.

This is on stock 7-bolt untouched
stock 2G head untouched
stock intake manifold
HKS 272/272

So 7-bolt have more potential then people think.

Stock headstuds? What PSI if so?

Thanks.

 

[Awdboost]

No, ARP head studs with stock head gasket.. I wasn't going to take that chances. There is no way the stock head studs can hold that.

I was running 30 psi. But Be careful, because at that psi any detonation will finish you off. I also ran 7 Degrees of timiming on C16 I wasn't going to detonate

 

[red91gst]

You never did post your dyno sheet

Woops! haha, i'll get it up tomorrow first thing in the morning!

Nate
SBR

 

[coltboostin]

No, ARP head studs with stock head gasket.. I wasn't going to take that chances. There is no way the stock head studs can hold that.

Oh, it has been done. You just need to use 1g head bolts, and know to what spec to tourque them to.

 

[anconover]

ive seen stock head bolts with a mitsu metal HG hold 30psi time and time again.

 

[Awdboost]

I've also seen stock head bolt strech and blow coolant all over the place. I didn't know you could use 6-bolt studs in a 7-bolt motor??

 

[anconover]

I just find it funny when everyone worships ARP only because even tho its the only alternative really to stock bolts, i personally think theyre of crap quality. I have 2 stretched head studs in the garage off my motor, and the threads damage on them very easily.

 

[Awdboost]

Can you take pictures.. I'd like to see them.

 

[GPTourer]

I'm sure the people at ARP would like to see them too. Maybe you should sit down and write a nice professional letter about what you were doing when they let go and send them in as evidence. You might be suprised as to what thye may do for you.

 

[coltboostin]

I've also seen stock head bolt strech and blow coolant all over the place. I didn't know you could use 6-bolt studs in a 7-bolt motor??

OH, they fit, and they are much less prone to stretching than 1G units.

Stockers strech? Again, you need to the torque spec.

 

[Batty200]

Typically, there is a 16-18% drivetrain loss in a fwd car, 24% or more in and awd. If it was 551 front wheel hp, crank should be around 640. (551 * 1.16)

Nate
SBR

Nate

Just a little FYI. If you are losing 16% due to drivetrain then the remaining 84% is what you saw at the wheels so the proper formula is 551/.84 which equals 655.9CrankHP.

655.9x.84 is 551. See how that works. Most people do those equations wrong.

My friend did 557whp on an AWD so that would be 557/.8 if we assume 20% loss which is 696.25CHP.

I didnt see there was another post about this.
Later

 

[red91gst]

Nate

Just a little FYI. If you are losing 16% due to drivetrain then the remaining 84% is what you saw at the wheels so the proper formula is 551/.84 which equals 655.9CrankHP.

655.9x.84 is 551. See how that works. Most people do those equations wrong.

My friend did 557whp on an AWD so that would be 557/.8 if we assume 20% loss which is 696.25CHP.

I didnt see there was another post about this.
Later

I think Kevin actually corrected me on this a few posts back, but thanks also for the info!

Nate
SBR

 

[coltboostin]

We still waiting on a dyno sheet?

 

[drew214]

you said money was a factor on choosing that turbo. If you had the money which of your GT turbos would you run on your car?

 

[red91gst]

you said money was a factor on choosing that turbo. If you had the money which of your GT turbos would you run on your car?

The one I have on my AWD race car now, GT-35R

Nate
SBR

 

[red91gst]

We still waiting on a dyno sheet?

Here ya go, sorry about the delay

Nate
SBR

 

[definitiveno]

thats possibly the worst power curve ive ever seen red

5000 rpm til it hits and then 2000 rpm til it falls off.

 

[Stapl3]

jesus.