14b and t-25 differences?

[JTs03]

Whats up guys. Names Jt and I'm new to dsm's. I come here with a question.

I'm currentlly building a twin turbo kit for a friend using 2 stock t-25's. Here's the thing...He say they are t-25 but all of my research from looking for exhaust flange dump tells me this turbo is a 14b and not a t-25.

Will someone PLEASE confirm if these turbo's are 14b's or t-25's???


When I tried to buy the t-25 flange all I could find were 5 bolt dump flanges. Took a guess and tried 14b and got what I was looking for.

Here is a link....Pictures by timjs1018 - Photobucket

 

[donniekak]

The 14b, and t25 found on the 2g dsm, have the same exhaust flange. The turbo in the pic next to the coffee can is a t25. A 14b is a mitsubishi turbo, and a t25 is a garrett turbo.

 

[JTs03]

Thanks for clearing that up. Allthough it does have a 4 bolt exhaust dump??

I've done welded up the inlet flanges for this kit on to the headers. I bought the rectangular t-25 flanges. Will it bolt to these turbo's??

I havent bought the dump flange, but when I search for the t-25 dump flange all I see are the 5 bolt. Even race part solutions said they had 5 bolt for the t-25.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

14b is a bit bigger and can boost more than a t25. A t25 is pretty much maxed out at 10 psi

 

[92AWDHX40]

well its not a 14b if it came off your 2g its a t25 chime in anyone if im correct it looks like the turbo we pulled off my buddys 2g.

 

[TJCTalon]

The turbo in the picture is a t-25. Depending on how much power you want to make, the twin 14b would be a bad ass setup.

 

[JTs03]

I'm more or less concerned about the flanges rather than what they'll flow. These arent going on my car, I'm build a kit for a customer and need to get these flanges right.

Unfortunatilly I'm in VA and the turbo's are in fl with the customer. I'm building him the hot side kit only using my car to mock these up on.

I have no idea what they come off of. He bought them used from a guy for his tt project.

Here is a pic of the drv side header mocked on my car(03 mustang).

 

[Phil1320]

What car is this set up going on?

ok 6 cylinder Stang.....I'd skip the T25s and either build them to T28 type or just run the 14b's or 15g's that the 3000 VR4 guys run.....unless this is a total budget build than I can see using T25's.....

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

14b is a bit bigger and can boost more than a t25. A t25 is pretty much maxed out at 10 psi

Negative ghostrider. I've hit 16 on mine.

And the difference is that the 14b is fully capable of making more power. Has a better flow rate.

 

[JTs03]

What car is this set up going on?

V6 mustang.

I own an 03 v6 with cam and blower but debating on a twin 16g setup for it.

Here is my youtube page...(slow, I know. Thats why I'm swaping for a turbo"s")

YouTube - JTsStang's Channel

btw...If anyone can link me to the correct flanges for these turbo's, inlet and dump flange I would GREATLLY appreciate it.

 

[98dsmkid]

on a stang....WTF are you serious?

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

Oh jesus christ. Goodbye

 

[JTs03]

Ok...Say I walked into napa and asked for a turbo inlet flange gasket for the turbo's I linked. What year, make, and model car would I ask for???

Reason is because I can make sure these turbo's will bolt on to my hot pipes. And if need be I can pop new holes in the inlet flanges.

 

[lilrob2069]

on a stang....WTF are you serious?

Well I guess the Saying is, If you can't beat them Join them. But in all seriousness is the 14b turbo have a J-pipe flange where as the t-25 does not. correct me if im wrong. Those both look to me as being t-25's but i can't look at the pics close up.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Negative ghostrider. I've hit 16 on mine.

And the difference is that the 14b is fully capable of making more power. Has a better flow rate.

They can go higher, but they won't last long doing so.

 

[Zdrummer15]

The t-25 came stock on 1995-1998 Eagle Talon TSi's and TSi AWD's and 1995-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T's and GSX's.

 

[JTs03]

The t-25 came stock on 1995-1998 Eagle Talon TSi's and TSi AWD's and 1995-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T's and GSX's.

Thank You

And yes, this is a complete budget build. I think he's only looking to put down around 300 with fast spool. Maybe after a while he will swap to something a little bigger and turb up the wick.

 

[Zdrummer15]

I have a friend with a '05 V6 Mustang that would love to do something like this. I think it's pretty cool although I wouldn't personally mess with any V6 Mustang other then the current 2011 ones with the 3.7 dohc.

 

[JusMX141]

I think the twin T25's will work great on this setup. That's less displacement per V than our cars have in all four cylinders, and at low boost it will be well-matched to the powerband the owner is looking for. I'd imagine this thing is going to hit like a ton of bricks at full boost....just don't expect it to pull too long!

 

[cookmeup272]

I would suggest going with the 14b's anyways, as you said he might want to go bigger. Than that would allow him to easily swap in other mitsu flanged turbos

 

[JusMX141]

The 14B's do not connect to intercooler piping easily due to the compressor outlet, and the compressor cover cannot be clocked if you're using the stock internal wastegate actuator. A T25 compressor cover accepts a coupler on the discharge, and the cover can be clocked 360*...all you have to do is drill and thread two 6mm holes where you want to place the actuator.

The best MHI turbo choice for this application would be a pair of Super 16G's, but those are hard to come by at a good price, and they have a T3 flange on the turbine inlet instead of a DSM flange or T2 flange as shown above.

I've rebuilt MHI/Greddy 18G's before which had the 18G compressor wheel, 3" inlet (TD06-style) compressor cover, and an 8cm T2-flanged turbine housing with a TD05H turbine wheel and a triangular 3-bolt turbine discharge before. That might be the ultimate choice for this setup, but finding two would mean spending some serious coin.

 

[Billiam]

With the T25 you could be boosting on idle! go for 14B at least

 

[cookmeup272]

Then you could call it a super mustang. The rotary GTR.

 

[Billiam]

Then you could call it a super mustang. The rotary GTR.

That youtube video made me pee my pants!

 

[cookmeup272]

im glad i reminded you of those great times in your life.