0-60mph GS-T or GSX?

[VenomPL]

Who is the winner?

 

[paranoidTSi]

This board alone shows you something...GSX (AWD Platform) is wanted more than the FWD Platform..why? Because it is faster and has no traction problems.

Unless the FWD vehicle has a limited slip or some suspension modifications to get better traction the AWD will ALWAYS grab better with a proper driver.

 

[leakyfaucet]

Unless the FWD vehicle has a limited slip or some suspension modifications to get better traction the AWD will ALWAYS grab better with a proper driver.

And the money spent making the FWD get traction could have gone to the AWD as engine modifications, thereby making any AWD car faster than the equally well running FWD car with the same $$$ spend on mods.

 

[foreverinvayne]

Thank you, this thread was getting really annoying until that

Twas my pleasure. Now let's actually see about getting these things to fly. And whatever happened to hover cars? in back to the future, they had em... and that was supposed to be what? 2010 or something? well, that's fast approaching and we don't have anything that can hover nearly that good.

Grrr... if only, then we wouldn't have to worry about this whole AWD vs. FWD thing. IT'd be pointless then.

 

[leakyfaucet]

Grrr... if only, then we wouldn't have to worry about this whole AWD vs. FWD thing. IT'd be pointless then.

HAH!

Yeah it was 2015. But I'm still waiting for the flux capacitor! That was supposed to be invented in 1985. :thumbdown

 

[Mackzero]

I hope your not serious about beating your buddy...if so those are some tall words from a guy driving a stock car.

My car is far from stock I just haven't updated my sig.....

I have a bal. shaft elim. block, 1mm+ valves, full ported/polished head, MAFT/GM MAF, Denso 660s, FMIC, Supra Pump, Aeromotive FPR, SS lines, etc. Full 3" 02 elim exhaust-no cat, DSM Chip, PTE GT3255 turbo and suspension mods, etc. He should be no problem what so ever.....

 

[boostaddictgsx]

and in 2015 in back to the future, all the hover cars were technically AWD, or AWH(all wheel hover) so GST's in the future wouldn't be able to fly!

 

[leakyfaucet]

and in 2015 in back to the future, all the hover cars were technically AWD, or AWH(all wheel hover) so GST's in the future wouldn't be able to fly!

I guess they could have made some with only front hover pods, instead of front and rear hover pods. And according to some people, the ones with the FWH would be faster!

 

[boostaddictgsx]

I guess they could have made some with only front hover pods, instead of front and rear hover pods. And according to some people, the ones with the FWH would be faster!

I hope they have better car sims to back it up by then, too :laugh:

 

[psychlow]

I guess they could have made some with only front hover pods, instead of front and rear hover pods. And according to some people, the ones with the FWH would be faster!

Shit yeah! Less parasitic loss, baby!

They'd kill your shit from a roll!

 

[dev67]

And the money spent making the FWD get traction could have gone to the AWD as engine modifications, thereby making any AWD car faster than the equally well running FWD car with the same $$$ spend on mods.

GSTs are cheaper

 

[boostaddictgsx]

GSTs are cheaper

GSX's are more fun in the snow

 

[foreverinvayne]

GSTs are cheaper

Depends on where you're from. Since you can't find either of them new now, they're all just gonna be based on what the used car dealerships want to sell them at or how much the previous owners wanna sell em at. And I have NEVER found a car that I was looking at that they were selling at the the blue book price from a private party. And most small dealers try to sell at way above blue book, and bigger dealers try to sell a little below blue book. So really, it just depends on who ur buying it from. Like me, I got my 90 AWD TSI with 125K miles for $1300. I saw a first gen eclipse for sale, a lil over 100k miles N/T for sale, the guy was asking like $2500 for it. Maybe a slight difference in exterior (in other car's favor) but I know my car has more luxuries (such as EVERYTHING offered, cd player, leather, wheels, a/c, cruise control, etc. and they all work perfectly)

So really, you can't say that for sure, just that they're SUPPOSED to be.

 

[DoYuTurbo]

look people the GSX is faster hands down. now if a gst has like drag radials an a camber kit it could Beet the hell out of a gsx. but think about it, gst's under steer, gsx's don't so in the twistys the gsx wins. when it comes to 0-60,(not that I think 0-60 matters)but a gsx could bog down off the line if u don't no how to handle it. I have beet a gsx with my gst, but only when the other guy f##ks up. I would trade my fwd 4 a awd ina heart beat.

 

[kpt4321]

look people the GSX is faster hands down. now if a gst has like drag radials an a camber kit it could Beet the hell out of a gsx. but think about it, gst's under steer, gsx's don't so in the twistys the gsx wins. when it comes to 0-60,(not that I think 0-60 matters)but a gsx could bog down off the line if u don't no how to handle it. I have beet a gsx with my gst, but only when the other guy f##ks up. I would trade my fwd 4 a awd ina heart beat.

Of course you can beat someone if the #### up or bog off the line, what is the point of even saying that?

My dad's 94 Ford Escort can beat a 911 twin turbo if the guy driving it launches it bad enough. That doesn't prove anything.

If the GS-T has drag radials, why are you comparing it to a GSX that doesn't? That just doesn't make sense. That's like saying that a GS-T with a FP Red, DSMLink, and all the supporting mods will beat a stock GSX. Yeah, it's true, but it doesn't prove anything.

Given similar condititions (therefore, similar tires), the GSX will always win to 60.

I don't really see how a camber kit is relevant.

 

[boostedinaz]

I don't really see how a camber kit is relevant.

When you buy a product most the time that company will provide you with a few stickers with there logo. If those stickers are applied in a certain manner then a few horses are bound to be picked up. :laugh:

Michael

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

My car is far from stock I just haven't updated my sig.....

I have a bal. shaft elim. block, 1mm+ valves, full ported/polished head, MAFT/GM MAF, Denso 660s, FMIC, Supra Pump, Aeromotive FPR, SS lines, etc. Full 3" 02 elim exhaust-no cat, DSM Chip, PTE GT3255 turbo and suspension mods, etc. He should be no problem what so ever.....

ohhhh ok...fropm what I saw your were talking sh#t with nothing done, ok now I see why . Yeah even from a roll youll get him...
Andrew

 

[dev67]

Depends on where you're from. Since you can't find either of them new now, they're all just gonna be based on what the used car dealerships want to sell them at or how much the previous owners wanna sell em at. And I have NEVER found a car that I was looking at that they were selling at the the blue book price from a private party. And most small dealers try to sell at way above blue book, and bigger dealers try to sell a little below blue book. So really, it just depends on who ur buying it from. Like me, I got my 90 AWD TSI with 125K miles for $1300. I saw a first gen eclipse for sale, a lil over 100k miles N/T for sale, the guy was asking like $2500 for it. Maybe a slight difference in exterior (in other car's favor) but I know my car has more luxuries (such as EVERYTHING offered, cd player, leather, wheels, a/c, cruise control, etc. and they all work perfectly)

So really, you can't say that for sure, just that they're SUPPOSED to be.

it is just a generalization, in corolation with an above post who was saying that GSTs need to buy traction mods, whereas that money could have been spent on engine mods on a GSX.
I cant say it for sure, because there could be a GST with 0 miles on it sitting in some warehouse

 

[Dual-Tipped]

Ok, so maybe the gs-t has a faster 0-60 than the Gsx. But do you really care that you hit 60mph .4 secs faster than a gsx when he is 6 car lengths (Guesstimate probably exageration) ahead of you? I race my buddies 350hp Gs-t light to light and I kill him I hit about 75 80ish where we do this he hits about 95 100 he is hauling up on me pretty hard at the end but the point is short distance from A to B AWD.

 

[boostedinaz]

I see alot of people talking about modded FWD cars. The problem with that is that a modded GSX will get out of the hole better with more power. A FWD car will progressively get worse with more power if they are running street tires.

Michael

 

[midnght]

And now it has become a Ghey GSX vr. GS-T swordfighting contest.


Blah blah blah, if this then that, the answer is clear.

THe GSX is quicker (0-60) were as the GS-T is faster whenever traction is NOT an issue, be it 20mph in stock from or 50mph in modded form. Yes, the SAME mods on both cars tuned in the same fashion, making the same CRANK HP.


Tires, LSD, motormounts, all those type things will help the GS-T. But the simple fact is that the same driver in both cars will net quicker 0-60's in a stock GSX over the stock GS-T.


That is all.

 

[foreverinvayne]

unless they think they can drop the clutch at high rpms with the gsx (3 bolt rearend) and he just busts the rear end and sits there . I don't think it'll get up to 60 personally .

 

[AWDTALON3000]

http://www.car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx

gsx 6.4 sec

gs-t 7.4 sec

 

[boostaddictgsx]

OK, I now have hard evidence to back up the AWD standpoint, I just raced a Talon TSi FWD, and I kicked its ass, the car sounded like it had after market exhaust or something, but it wasn't 100% stock, whereas mine.....IS 100% stock. I beat it to 60 by like three car lengths, and that should put a cap on this on-going thread, as the original question is now answered with hard evidence.

BTW, my car is an auto!

 

[boostedinaz]

OK, I now have hard evidence to back up the AWD standpoint, I just raced a Talon TSi FWD, and I kicked its ass, the car sounded like it had after market exhaust or something, but it wasn't 100% stock, whereas mine.....IS 100% stock. I beat it to 60 by like three car lengths, and that should put a cap on this on-going thread, as the original question is now answered with hard evidence.

BTW, my car is an auto!

I am not saying you are wrong, I KNOW that a GSX will beat a GST, but that shows no real evidence. We dont know how good of a driver that guy was or how healthy his car was running. So, sorry no hard evidence there.

Michael

 

[leakyfaucet]

BTW, my car is an auto!

That adds insult to injury...